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[Faction Lock] Seriously what are you waiting for
TheMaos
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Why are you making people wait til the update, it doesn't make any sense. Obviously it is a simple patch to add/remove camps ex. MyM. Now we gotta wait 13 more days(well since the 30 days are in the middle of a new camp it is gonna be longer than 13 days) I have friends you know, I'd like to be able to play with them on all my characters in non-cp( most of my old friends are on ep and so is my favorite character, and my newer friends are on ad) I waited more than half a year for this bad decision to go away. Just patch it, you already know it was a mistake in the first place just remove it already.
oh and btw why aren't the horse animations fixed, it has been two+ years...
oh and btw why aren't the horse animations fixed, it has been two+ years...
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭because the rest of the community loves the locked alliances and thats why we stay in them.
i hope they never change the locked alliances, it was this way from launch and its now where it was when the game started.
its the way its suppose to be.26 -
TheMaos✭✭✭Obviously you haven't seen the numerous polls about faction lock, with an overwhelming majority against it.
Also ZoS realized this was a big mistake and people don't want it or else why are they reversing it.
Faction Lock has already been decided to be gone next Update.
I just don't see why we can't get a quick patch for it and not have to wait another month9 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Obviously you haven't seen the numerous polls about faction lock, with an overwhelming majority against it.
Also ZoS realized this was a big mistake and people don't want it or else why are they reversing it.
Faction Lock has already been decided to be gone next Update.
I just don't see why we can't get a quick patch for it and not have to wait another month
it clearly shows the locked alliance still exists, there is locked alliance still in the campaigns, they did not remove locked alliance.
are you talking about this comment right here,
Quote:
New PvP Campaigns
Four new PvP campaigns will be opening with the launch of Update 25 and are all appropriately themed with the Dark Heart of Skyrim. All existing campaigns will be shut down, and players assigned to these campaigns will be granted End of Campaign rewards, in addition to receiving a free Campaign Reassignment. The new campaigns include:
Blackreach: 30 day CP-enabled, Non-Alliance Locked
Ravenwatch: 30 day No CP, Non-Alliance Locked
Gray Host: 30 day CP-enabled, Alliance Locked
Icereach: 10-49 Campaign
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source:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/508802/pts-patch-notes-v5-3-0#latest3 -
D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭because the rest of the community loves the locked alliances and thats why we stay in them.
i hope they never change the locked alliances, it was this way from launch and its now where it was when the game started.
its the way its suppose to be.
You can speak for yourself, not the community.15 -
Vevvev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Alliance locked and non-alliance locked campaigns exist. If the vast majority of people hate faction lock then why do they play on the campaign where its a thing? The devs give you a choice and you're not forced to play on that campaign.PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK17 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm for the Alliance Lock and wish it was for all Campaigns. As a Red, seeing players who were on a Red fighting with you one day are now on a Blue or Yellow the next coming to wreck you is infuriating.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭During the pvp event the main campaign was pop locked and I went to the unlocked campaign. Saw some dude from my own faction grab the scroll and run it to his friends on another faction.
I’m pretty sure the unlocked campaigns will stay dead. A lot of people are like me and would rather do BGs then play in a campaign like that.
Faction locks shouldn’t be necessary, but there are so many trolls and kids it makes it the best campaign.
Funny thing about factions, there are always two groups. Those who want to ride coattails and jump on a winning side and those who’re trying to get away from people locking them out from playing. It would be nice if people would jump on the losing side, but that’s never been my experience. People just want to Zerg on the winning side.Edited by Iskiab on February 16, 2020 1:59AMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten9 -
TheMaos✭✭✭Alliance locked and non-alliance locked campaigns exist. If the vast majority of people hate faction lock then why do they play on the campaign where its a thing? The devs give you a choice and you're not forced to play on that campaign.
The only non-cp camp is locked so we don't have a choice if we want to play non-cp still4 -
TheMaos✭✭✭I'm for the Alliance Lock and wish it was for all Campaigns. As a Red, seeing players who were on a Red fighting with you one day are now on a Blue or Yellow the next coming to wreck you is infuriating.
Okay so, you like to play a game a certain way, but not the way they do... So you want them to FORCED to play the way YOU want to.
Do you not see the problem with this kind of thinking?5 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭because the rest of the community loves the locked alliances and thats why we stay in them.
i hope they never change the locked alliances, it was this way from launch and its now where it was when the game started.
its the way its suppose to be.
You can speak for yourself, not the community.
the fact that locked campaign is CHUK full constantly is proof enough that the community Loves it Locked.11 -
TheMaos✭✭✭because the rest of the community loves the locked alliances and thats why we stay in them.
i hope they never change the locked alliances, it was this way from launch and its now where it was when the game started.
its the way its suppose to be.
You can speak for yourself, not the community.
the fact that locked campaign is CHUK full constantly is proof enough that the community Loves it Locked.
If the community loved locked zos wouldn't be removing it 6 months after7 -
BoraxFlux✭✭✭✭✭Alliance lock has definitely more a unifying spirit among alliance members and -somewhat- lesser drama in zone-chat of No-CP EU. I wonder why 30 days CP gets both versions where the No CP only gets the Non-Alliance Locked.
NoCP is still my type op PvP, I'll adapt...but still. It's a pity.
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JamieAubrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Obviously you haven't seen the numerous polls about faction lock, with an overwhelming majority against it.
Also ZoS realized this was a big mistake and people don't want it or else why are they reversing it.
Faction Lock has already been decided to be gone next Update.
I just don't see why we can't get a quick patch for it and not have to wait another month
it clearly shows the locked alliance still exists, there is locked alliance still in the campaigns, they did not remove locked alliance.
are you talking about this comment right here,
Quote:
New PvP Campaigns
Four new PvP campaigns will be opening with the launch of Update 25 and are all appropriately themed with the Dark Heart of Skyrim. All existing campaigns will be shut down, and players assigned to these campaigns will be granted End of Campaign rewards, in addition to receiving a free Campaign Reassignment. The new campaigns include:
Blackreach: 30 day CP-enabled, Non-Alliance Locked
Ravenwatch: 30 day No CP, Non-Alliance Locked
Gray Host: 30 day CP-enabled, Alliance Locked
Icereach: 10-49 Campaign
End Quote:
source:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/508802/pts-patch-notes-v5-3-0#latest
What about NO CP ? So I now need to learn to play in CP again and potentially rework all my chars AGAIN4 -
Nerouyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'm for the Alliance Lock and wish it was for all Campaigns. As a Red, seeing players who were on a Red fighting with you one day are now on a Blue or Yellow the next coming to wreck you is infuriating.
I feel genuinely sorry for you.
This is just a game and those people who infuriate you are just players playing characters in a war which the game's main story tells us is stupid as balls.5 -
D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭because the rest of the community loves the locked alliances and thats why we stay in them.
i hope they never change the locked alliances, it was this way from launch and its now where it was when the game started.
its the way its suppose to be.
You can speak for yourself, not the community.because the rest of the community loves the locked alliances and thats why we stay in them.
i hope they never change the locked alliances, it was this way from launch and its now where it was when the game started.
its the way its suppose to be.
You can speak for yourself, not the community.
the fact that locked campaign is CHUK full constantly is proof enough that the community Loves it Locked.
That's not proof at all. Im in a locked campaign and I dislike the alliance locks because im seperate from my friends. They're not a fan as well. Luckily they're removing the locks.
Edit: im on my phone, ignore the repeat quote.Edited by D0PAMINE on February 16, 2020 2:59AM2 -
Heelie✭✭✭✭✭Alliance locked and non-alliance locked campaigns exist. If the vast majority of people hate faction lock then why do they play on the campaign where its a thing? The devs give you a choice and you're not forced to play on that campaign.
Because they locked the most popular campaign that everyone already was playing on, people had to create new characters to fit it, only long after did they open up a new 30 day campaign that was non-locked, but at this point people had already adapted to faction lock and noone is going to swap to a dead campaign. Had this whole fiasko been done the other way around where they made a new 30 day campaign that was alliance-locked, only a very smal minority of players would have swaped to it. This is pretty obvious stop being disingenuous.Most OwOrated healer of all time3 -
AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Alliance locked and non-alliance locked campaigns exist. If the vast majority of people hate faction lock then why do they play on the campaign where its a thing? The devs give you a choice and you're not forced to play on that campaign.
The only non-cp camp is locked so we don't have a choice if we want to play non-cp still
And soon the only non-CP campaign will be unlocked and I won't have a choice if I want to play in a locked campaign, and I greatly dislike the CP campaigns.
So let me have my 13 days.Alliance locked and non-alliance locked campaigns exist. If the vast majority of people hate faction lock then why do they play on the campaign where its a thing? The devs give you a choice and you're not forced to play on that campaign.
Because they locked the most popular campaign that everyone already was playing on, people had to create new characters to fit it, only long after did they open up a new 30 day campaign that was non-locked, but at this point people had already adapted to faction lock and noone is going to swap to a dead campaign. Had this whole fiasko been done the other way around where they made a new 30 day campaign that was alliance-locked, only a very smal minority of players would have swaped to it. This is pretty obvious stop being disingenuous.
They remade the campaigns, so people could have just picked the unlocked one when the campaigns switched.
But they didn't hate faction lock enough to do that.The Moot Councillor5 -
TheFM✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Obviously you haven't seen the numerous polls about faction lock, with an overwhelming majority against it.
Also ZoS realized this was a big mistake and people don't want it or else why are they reversing it.
Faction Lock has already been decided to be gone next Update.
I just don't see why we can't get a quick patch for it and not have to wait another month
Ah yes, the overwhelming majority, aka, the loud minority. You guys whined so much that they ruined the constantly pop locked no cp campaign on pc eu to the point where people have abandoned it to go to kaal and even latvalun.
GG.5 -
TheFM✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭because the rest of the community loves the locked alliances and thats why we stay in them.
i hope they never change the locked alliances, it was this way from launch and its now where it was when the game started.
its the way its suppose to be.
You can speak for yourself, not the community.
Its not an opinion. Alliance lock was there from the start, the entire cyrodiil experience was designed around it.13 -
TheFM✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Alliance locked and non-alliance locked campaigns exist. If the vast majority of people hate faction lock then why do they play on the campaign where its a thing? The devs give you a choice and you're not forced to play on that campaign.
Because they locked the most popular campaign that everyone already was playing on, people had to create new characters to fit it, only long after did they open up a new 30 day campaign that was non-locked, but at this point people had already adapted to faction lock and noone is going to swap to a dead campaign. Had this whole fiasko been done the other way around where they made a new 30 day campaign that was alliance-locked, only a very smal minority of players would have swaped to it. This is pretty obvious stop being disingenuous.
The non faction locked campaign is actually moderately popular atm in pc eu, however the same people who want faction lock gone refuse to play there even when it is constantly 2 or 3 bar.5 -
TheFM✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'm for the Alliance Lock and wish it was for all Campaigns. As a Red, seeing players who were on a Red fighting with you one day are now on a Blue or Yellow the next coming to wreck you is infuriating.
Okay so, you like to play a game a certain way, but not the way they do... So you want them to FORCED to play the way YOU want to.
Do you not see the problem with this kind of thinking?
Games have rules. You dont play monopoly and just throw money at each other.12 -
Leeched✭✭✭✭✭JamieAubrey wrote: »Obviously you haven't seen the numerous polls about faction lock, with an overwhelming majority against it.
Also ZoS realized this was a big mistake and people don't want it or else why are they reversing it.
Faction Lock has already been decided to be gone next Update.
I just don't see why we can't get a quick patch for it and not have to wait another month
it clearly shows the locked alliance still exists, there is locked alliance still in the campaigns, they did not remove locked alliance.
are you talking about this comment right here,
Quote:
New PvP Campaigns
Four new PvP campaigns will be opening with the launch of Update 25 and are all appropriately themed with the Dark Heart of Skyrim. All existing campaigns will be shut down, and players assigned to these campaigns will be granted End of Campaign rewards, in addition to receiving a free Campaign Reassignment. The new campaigns include:
Blackreach: 30 day CP-enabled, Non-Alliance Locked
Ravenwatch: 30 day No CP, Non-Alliance Locked
Gray Host: 30 day CP-enabled, Alliance Locked
Icereach: 10-49 Campaign
End Quote:
source:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/508802/pts-patch-notes-v5-3-0#latest
What about NO CP ? So I now need to learn to play in CP again and potentially rework all my chars AGAINObviously you haven't seen the numerous polls about faction lock, with an overwhelming majority against it.
Also ZoS realized this was a big mistake and people don't want it or else why are they reversing it.
Faction Lock has already been decided to be gone next Update.
I just don't see why we can't get a quick patch for it and not have to wait another month
Ah yes, the overwhelming majority, aka, the loud minority. You guys whined so much that they ruined the constantly pop locked no cp campaign on pc eu to the point where people have abandoned it to go to kaal and even latvalun.
GG.
I don't get why people like you complain about faction lock removal. I saw both of you play and all you do is zergsurfing. Just join the locked CP campaign then and continue you doing there ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Edited by Leeched on February 16, 2020 4:24AM(DC) Grimsley - MagSorc || Denderan - StamPlar || Phaedon - StamBlade || Oberon - MagPlar || Leontes - StamSorc || Saroush - MagDk || Culan - StamDen || Dullahan - StamDk
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ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm for the Alliance Lock and wish it was for all Campaigns. As a Red, seeing players who were on a Red fighting with you one day are now on a Blue or Yellow the next coming to wreck you is infuriating.
Okay so, you like to play a game a certain way, but not the way they do... So you want them to FORCED to play the way YOU want to.
Do you not see the problem with this kind of thinking?
It's a team based competitive multiplayer and their way of playing the game creates an unfair situation for others by shifting the population around, creating imbalanced factions in the middle of a Campaign. If Cyrodiil was a free for all there would be no issue here.
Edited by ArchMikem on February 16, 2020 5:32AMCP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I hate alliance lock as well. It needs to go away.
Good thing you have a choice. You can play a campaign where there is no alliance lock. Those who like the locked campaign can also play where they wish. Why do you want to take the choice away? Just go play where you want and let others play where they want.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."12 -
Nomadic_Atmoran✭✭✭✭✭
✭I hate alliance lock as well. It needs to go away.
Good thing you have a choice. You can play a campaign where there is no alliance lock. Those who like the locked campaign can also play where they wish. Why do you want to take the choice away? Just go play where you want and let others play where they want.
So they can shift the balance of power around at a whim.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry - Laerinel Rhaev - Enrerion - Caius Berilius - Seylina Ithvala - Signa Squallrider - H'Vak the GrimjawlYynril Rothvani - Tenarei Rhaev - Bathes-In-Coin - Dazsh Ro Khar - Aredyhel - Reads-To-Frogs - Azjani Ma'LesKheshna gra-Gharbuk - Gallisten Bondurant - Aban Shahid Bakr - Etain Maquier - Atsu Kalame - Faulpia Severinus3 -
D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I hate alliance lock as well. It needs to go away.
Good thing you have a choice. You can play a campaign where there is no alliance lock. Those who like the locked campaign can also play where they wish. Why do you want to take the choice away? Just go play where you want and let others play where they want.
Because now I can help the faction that is last place while still having fun on an active campaign. I like fighting with, and against my friends in Cyrodiil. I get it. Faction lock and non lock being forced on the players is going to make it divided. Other solutions should be explored that could prove popular with both sides. My opinion is that I do not like faction lock, but I am not so close minded as to not accept a new solution that both sides can be happy with. The other campaigns are not as popular as Kaal and Bahl.1 -
OrdoHermetica✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm so glad that the arguments that have been repeated ad nauseum for literally months on end with absolutely no resolution whatsoever over on the PvP pages have made it here. Wonderful. I can't wait for absolutely no constructive discussion to happen here as well.
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ku5h✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm for the Alliance Lock and wish it was for all Campaigns. As a Red, seeing players who were on a Red fighting with you one day are now on a Blue or Yellow the next coming to wreck you is infuriating.
Okay so, you like to play a game a certain way, but not the way they do... So you want them to FORCED to play the way YOU want to.
Do you not see the problem with this kind of thinking?
That is exactly what you want. You have both locked and unlocked to choose from. Since you like unlocked more, you want to force all players into unlocked one.
Don't you see your own hypocrisy here.
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