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Total client update in the middle of Murkmire event - are you crazy?
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merevie✭✭✭✭✭Feel your pain -couple of us in this household with ESO on kiwi connection.
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if we get rid of some of the lag issues afterwards I'd sell my cat for it -can live with a few rough days.
IF
it is a bunch of horse.... and nothing improves then the rage will be real.Edited by merevie on February 15, 2020 6:38AM1 -
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if we get rid of some of the lag issues afterwards I'd sell my cat for it -can live with a few rough days.
IF
it is a bunch of horse.... and nothing improves then the rage will be real.
We'll be lucky if the servers don't melt down on the first day of downloads and the live version actually runs properly.
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Either you have far more than a 25Mb/s download speed or it takes you far far longer than an hour to download the game. Math is math. Also, typically any broadband( more than 256 Kb/s) is sufficient for normal gameplay.Anotherone773 wrote: »Murkmire event runs Feb 20 to Mar 3
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/57695The Murkmire Celebration kicks off next Thursday, February 20 at 10AM EST, and will run until Tuesday, March 3 at 10AM EST. During the event, you can earn bonus rewards, Event Tickets, and more as you complete activities within the zone.
Massive update of the game requiring a complete re-download in the middle of this event.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/57719The Patching Overhaul is a massive part of the Update 25 base-game patch (arriving February 24 for PC/Mac and March 10 for PlayStation®4 and Xbox One) that completely overhauls how the ESO game client is downloaded, patched, and stored on local hard drives.
I live in Australia and download speeds here are abysmal. We're on a moderately expensive plan and at best get a little over 1 meg / second. It's usually less. And I live with other people. I can't hog all of that for myself 24 / 7. When are others are home and watching streaming services - which need about a third of that or image quality goes down the toilet - and using the internet, I need to throttle.
Doing the total redownload of the PTS took about 5 days for me.
Why not do the total update after? Or before?
It's not that hard to reinstall the game.
Like, barely an inconvenience. If you can't handle not farming an event in ESO for a few hours for an update when the event lasts a couple weeks then idk what to say. I think you might be addicted and should seek some help if having to re-download the game during a relatively not that big of an event is even remotely an inconvenience for you.
I cant tell if you are:
*Being Serious
*Trolling
* Replying to threads without even reading the posts you are quoting
* Other stuff that is censored
The rest of this thread including the part you quoted discussed how long much of the world does good to get a 10MB connection. I have a 25MB personally and it will take me about 6-7 hours to install this patch. The person you are literally quoting talks about having a 1MB connection in.the.part.you.quoted. That means it will take them a FULL WEEK of nonstop downloading 24/7 to redownload the game. Hardly a "few hours of not doing an event"
great, not my or anyone else's problem.
Idk what to say if you have less than 1mb internet and are expecting a pristine online experience.
I have a less than 25MB download and it takes me about 30min to an hour to download the entire game.
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llande✭✭✭[/quote]
great, not my or anyone else's problem.
Idk what to say if you have less than 1mb internet and are expecting a pristine online experience.
I have a less than 25MB download and it takes me about 30min to an hour to download the entire game.[/quote]
Can't wait to see your rant post on the download day when ZOS servers will cap your speed 1 best case 2 Mbps once tends of thousands of ppl will start download at the same time12 -
Lord_Hypnos✭✭✭I wish I would give a Damn about the people who have low internet speed and for whom it takes days to reload the game... But I don't
I don't even care if the DL speed would be set to a "low" amount... I´ll just play/do something else ( enjoy my life and do useful stuff) and don't [snip] about every "inconvenience" in my privileged life...
Jees the problems people have here -.-
[edited to remove profanity]Edited by ZOS_Ragnar on February 15, 2020 1:47PM2 -
Huphia✭✭Agree with the OP. Personally, I have moderate (10MBs) speed. But still, it took me about a day to re-download PTS. But there are people who have lesser speeds and FUP limits. Not to mention the bugs that may occur cause of the patch. I mean we all know that patching bugs are quite common here. Releasing the patch during an Event is a very bad idea. Sure, it may be just few tickets and exp. But some of us actually want to get those.1 -
Haquor✭✭✭✭✭Murkmire event runs Feb 20 to Mar 3
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/57695The Murkmire Celebration kicks off next Thursday, February 20 at 10AM EST, and will run until Tuesday, March 3 at 10AM EST. During the event, you can earn bonus rewards, Event Tickets, and more as you complete activities within the zone.
Massive update of the game requiring a complete re-download in the middle of this event.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/57719The Patching Overhaul is a massive part of the Update 25 base-game patch (arriving February 24 for PC/Mac and March 10 for PlayStation®4 and Xbox One) that completely overhauls how the ESO game client is downloaded, patched, and stored on local hard drives.
I live in Australia and download speeds here are abysmal. We're on a moderately expensive plan and at best get a little over 1 meg / second. It's usually less. And I live with other people. I can't hog all of that for myself 24 / 7. When are others are home and watching streaming services - which need about a third of that or image quality goes down the toilet - and using the internet, I need to throttle.
Doing the total redownload of the PTS took about 5 days for me.
Why not do the total update after? Or before?
Yeah kind of annoying. But if its a performance patch then ill take it whenever it is ready.
And some advice guys and girls.... listen.... you do NOT need these tickets. You do not. If you do then you are an addict IRL. Events are often and the cosmetic crap you get from them shouldnt really generwte such an emotional response.
If a few days away from eso and a bunch of event tickets lost are that upsetting to you then you have some larger issues than the missed game time.
It is strange timing. But really... *** it. Take a forced break and breathe.2 -
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✭Hahaha I saw it coming from so long !
I'm not even surprised.
But tbh, idc if at least the game work when we log back.
I can already see the massive lag/crash and server maintenance extended :>[ PC EU ]
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✭Just looked as my current, right now speed. It's 65.0 mbps. How long would that roughly take to download the update?0 -
eklhaftb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Monte_Cristo wrote: »Just looked as my current, right now speed. It's 65.0 mbps. How long would that roughly take to download the update?
I believe that's just about 30 GB per hour, which means you should be able to play the same day. But don't trust me in this, math is my mortal enemy.
Of course, we should probably expect the worst. Given the recent records, it is entirely possible that the download server will crash, catch fire, gain sentience, go undercover and escape to Brazil - which may or may not adversely affect your actual download speed.
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Shardaxx✭✭✭✭✭The OP is right, dropping this in the middle of an event is just crazy! Why not jiggle things around so people can download without missing out on anything?
Also, they cut the daily rewards down for Feb to allow for this, but consoles aren't getting the patch til March! So I hope they cut the dailies down for March too, otherwise people will miss some dailies.PS4 - Europe - Shardaxx - Wood Elf Nightblade - Aldmeri Dominion2 -
Mitrenga✭✭✭✭✭Will the new launcher uninstall the game first?
If not, I will make clean uninstall incl. registry entries and download the new client.0 -
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mareeelb16_ESO✭✭✭Unless someone can offer a credible reason for it being a good idea to force the mandatory re-download mid event I'm convinced that it's a bad idea.
There are so many opportunities to avoid events that I find it astonishing that ZOS would do it. Anyone who can't see the disadvantages of clashing with an event must surely be disingenuous?!
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✭✭mareeelb16_ESO wrote: »Unless someone can offer a credible reason for it being a good idea to force the mandatory re-download mid event I'm convinced that it's a bad idea.
There are so many opportunities to avoid events that I find it astonishing that ZOS would do it. Anyone who can't see the disadvantages of clashing with an event must surely be disingenuous?!
Whoever coordinates between the teams is inept or thinks people will be less mad at losing out if there are more potential rewards.
ZOS in general does not operate or communicate in a human parsable way."The Heritance are racists yes? Idiots. But dangerous, destabilizing racist idiots." - Razum-dar
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ThePlayer✭✭✭✭ZOS not care about, its a bonus event, only for push players to buy Murkmire.
You will get the tickets anyway in the next event.
P.S. when Murkmire will be free for everyone? i got it free, i not care :P0 -
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The launcher will automatically reinstall the game files over the current ones so you don't have to do anything manually, other than launching it on the 24th so it can start doing its thing.Will the new launcher uninstall the game first?
If not, I will make clean uninstall incl. registry entries and download the new client.
Anyway, people coming here going on about "lol you don't need all the tickets anyway" are completely missing the darn point. The point is that they removed the last week of login rewards to account for people missing numerous days due to needing to reinstall the game, but are doing the update during an event even though people might miss numerous days. They removed one sort of reward knowing people might not be able to get them but are leaving other rewards in? What sense does that make?
Yeah, some people might be able to get all the tickets if they can get the whole game installed in less than a day, but by that logic some people could have gotten all the login rewards too. So why remove the lesser rewards and make people miss out on stuff more of them would likely prefer and get better use out of? Many events have been postponed until later for various reasons, why couldn't Murkmire? Just have it wait until it won't interfere with any other events (which at the rate we keep getting zone DLC and chapters, events will start overlapping anyway because there are only so many weeks in a year). Heck, MYM got postponed for like 6 months the first time they had to delay it; if they can delay an event that was originally happening during the literal time of year it was named after, I think they can delay an event coinciding with the release of a DLC for a few weeks.PC-NA | Been around since closed beta
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The launcher will automatically reinstall the game files over the current ones so you don't have to do anything manually, other than launching it on the 24th so it can start doing its thing.Will the new launcher uninstall the game first?
If not, I will make clean uninstall incl. registry entries and download the new client.
Anyway, people coming here going on about "lol you don't need all the tickets anyway" are completely missing the darn point. The point is that they removed the last week of login rewards to account for people missing numerous days due to needing to reinstall the game, but are doing the update during an event even though people might miss numerous days. They removed one sort of reward knowing people might not be able to get them but are leaving other rewards in? What sense does that make?
Comparing it to other zone-DLC events, they added extra tickets to it. Even if you miss 5 days, you still have 8x3=24 tickets. Which is equivalent to previous similar events, based on post #88 above. /shrug1 -
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Other events have had more than 30 tickets, like the latest New Life which iirc had something like 70 to account for the delayed Undaunted event. The event before that I think it was had like forty, or so I believe.Kiralyn2000 wrote: »Comparing it to other zone-DLC events, they added extra tickets to it. Even if you miss 5 days, you still have 8x3=24 tickets. Which is equivalent to previous similar events, based on post #88 above. /shrug
And again, you're missing the point. If you're going to excuse this with the logic of "people can still get some of the tickets" then that same logic could apply to "people could still get some of the login rewards". It's not a matter of how many tickets a person can or can't get, it's the point that they removed x reward because people might miss them, but still put y rewards even though people might miss them.
And people are also just blindly assuming the reinstall is going to go absolutely smoothly as well, which with ZOS' track record pretty much never happens. What about the people who are out for a week or longer if the launcher breaks on them and they have to reinstall the game two or three times, or any other number of things that could go wrong? Delaying the event and having it give a lesser number of tickets would just logistically make more sense, and saying "well they're giving more tickets to kind of account for if you can't get on" is not really a valid enough excuse. Other events have been delayed for various reasons; why couldn't Murkmire be delayed? Again, saying "well they're giving extra tickets" isn't an answer, it's an excuse.PC-NA | Been around since closed beta
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Sarah Lacroix: Breton Vampire who really really REALLY likes likes learning Magick and also her Altmer husbando
Kaalhil Swiftstrike: Tiny shapeshifting monster hunter Bosmeri lady with enough sass to kill a dragon or ten
Gwendolyn Jenelle: Friendly healer with a coffee addiction and her own medical practice
Krisiel: Literally crazy Werewolf, no like legit insane. She nuts
Kiju Veran: Ex-Fighters Guild Suthay who likes to punch things and is also a spy and ALSO a Werewolf
Niralae Elsinal: Young Altmeri woman with way too much Magicka and Vampire husbando
Slondor: TESified Slenderman, except lazier and has more of a thing for deals than Clavicus Vile does
Marius Vastino: Sarah's Imperial apathetic sire who likes to monologue
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ThanatosLex✭✭PTS update:
download update 67GB> install> play> FATAL ERROR 6> uninstallation> download new 67GB client> install> play> OK
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thissocalledflower✭✭✭✭StormeReigns wrote: »Loves_guars wrote: »I couldn't care less about tickets and my internet speed is fast, but I think ZoS should rethink this for people like the OP, and also in case of very possible problems that may arise due to everyone downloading the game.
Lol at the posters saying "just get better internet"...Some people in the 1st world really live in a bubble.
Most think all internet is the same around the globe, with just a simple ISP switch to get away from throttling and faster speeds. Wait till they learn about S.Korea's internet. Makes the US internet look like a rotary phone, that cost vastly cheaper than most generic cereal brands.
Korea has always been the head of the power curve in electronics compered to the us. When i was stationed there in the mid 90's i couldnt even leave the country with the computer i brought with me from the us. They confiscated it out of concern that it could be containing components from their electronic market, which i had visited. Their stuff is always better and faster than ours...After careful consideration (and oh! so much deliberation) we have concluded that you circumstance sounds too much like a l2p issue for it to be just a mere coincidence.0 -
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✭All they needed to do was have the Murkmire event start sooner and end the day before Update 25
It isn't so much just the tickets, but the event only collectibles. I require a baby voriplasm pet! We don't know the drop rate on the pieces of the runebox so tickets can be used to offset that if rng hates you...
There is also a gravestake thingy (memento or emote I forget which) but it isn't nearly as great as the voriplasm pet!Edited by Mix on February 15, 2020 6:57PM3 -
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✭✭Good the sooner this event is over the better , hated it the first time around
I appreciate the support, but this is the first time around.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Events
Possibly you're confusing this with the unbearably awful pre Murkmire quests which have to be repeated a stupid number of times to get the achievement. That's what I most strongly associate with Murkmire and it's the reason why I've never actually been there other than to buy something from a guild vendor.
Also one of the reasons I don't want to play more than one character.
Getting that achievement even once - which I have not done and won't attempt until I settle firmly on a main - might make my brain melt. 19 times would have to cause some kind of cosmic cataclysmic event.All they needed to do was have the Murkmire event start sooner and end the day before Update 25
It's not rocket science!It isn't so much just the tickets, but the event only collectibles. I require a baby voriplasm pet! We don't know the drop rate on the pieces of the runebox so tickets can be used to offset that if rng hates you...
I'm a bit less bothered by that because using history as a guide to the future, we would expect to see the pet available again in re-runs of events.
It's definitely one of the nicer pets though. Would be nice to get it this event and if so I'd make an effort to find the perfect place for it in my home. Ooh I know exactly where it should go!
On the other hand, opportunities to earn tickets are limited and berries are a now or never thing.1 -
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✭eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »Monte_Cristo wrote: »Just looked as my current, right now speed. It's 65.0 mbps. How long would that roughly take to download the update?
I believe that's just about 30 GB per hour, which means you should be able to play the same day. But don't trust me in this, math is my mortal enemy.
Of course, we should probably expect the worst. Given the recent records, it is entirely possible that the download server will crash, catch fire, gain sentience, go undercover and escape to Brazil - which may or may not adversely affect your actual download speed.
Also assuming it stays at 65 for the entire download. So, less than 8 hours to download? Or more?0 -
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✭✭✭I'm a bit less bothered by that because using history as a guide to the future, we would expect to see the pet available again in re-runs of events.
SWTOR also has "events" but they come on a much more predictable clockwork schedule and while event tokens are limited by days and the number of alts you grind, because everyone knows the events will reliably come they aren't worried about it. If IRL takes over this week, you know in a couple months the event will roll around again and you'll have a chance to earn the same event rewards.
ZOS has structured events rewards as being much more exclusive and events therefore more important to attend with limited time things like indriks that come once a year and who knows if they will come again.
I think that's where the discontent is coming from combined with ZOS not wanting to say that things are guaranteed to reappear, possibly hoping we'll show up for each and every event.
I'm sure it works for event attendance but it just adds to the overall stress combined now with RNG on tickets that has a history of people not being able to find their tickets.
That underlying stress and urgency sure doesn't make the event particularly enjoyable and we haven't even started the event yet.Edited by Dusk_Coven on February 16, 2020 12:45AM0
