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You should be able to place your toons as NPCs in your home & swap toons by interacting with them.

  • Langeston
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    Reizak wrote: »
    Sounds good to me.

    RPers, this would be optional. If you don't want slimmy members of the EP lounging around your tower, then don't place them.

    I can't imagine the increase in resource loading would cause an issue, especially if it's only character inventory management.

    Even switching characters in and out via npcs in your house shouldn't be anything to worry about. Rather than making two separate server calls (one to log out, the other to log in), and having the client update your pixels accordingly, they're instead bundled in to one... The issue would be character placement. Do you log in in the house (which would make seemless sense), and if so, could this be abused to get out of trouble, save time to make gold faster, be used for greifing, etc.?

    I like it, but can't honestly see it ever being a thing. It's a couple of days worth of work, and doesn't result in any extra income... Unless they sold the player "slots" for houses in the Crown store, then I can definitely see them running with it.

    This is exactly what I was thinking, you articulated it better though. You could [optionally] place the toons you want to in your home, and then while you're in there you could "hot swap" to them. You could place as many (or as few) as you like. I think it would really streamline the process of swapping toons just to craft something or get something out of their inventory, or whatever.

    I know it'll never happen, but I mentioned it to a girl & she thought it would be the best feature ever — so I figured I'd share it on here.
  • Langeston
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    Sorry wouldn't want this, this will promote people to make and use up good name slots someone else who actually wanted to use it, from using it.

    Now people will just make toons to make their homes seem more lively.

    That's something I hadn't thought of. I suppose there could be a limit to how many of your toons you could place in your home. Kinda like you can only place a set number of your mounts. Maybe you could only place 3 toons in addition to the one you are playing? I dunno.

    I know it'll never happen anyway, I just though it'd be nice to be able to swap gear or craft a glyph without having to log out, log back in on my crafter/toon with the gear, do whatever I need to do, then log out again, and finally log back in on the original toon.
  • TheShadowScout
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    I said it before:
    solasub wrote: »
    Our non-played characters waiting in our houses
    Nah.
    Those would not make sense for many people - why would my pact librarian have an covenant knight in his home? Why would my orc paladin invite a dominion criminal?
    Worse, the system only loads the current character once you go from the selection screen into the game, so it would require some coding to bring in your alts too...
    And it -still- makes no more sense to me then it did back then.
    Langeston wrote: »
    Not only would it liven up your home, but it would make changing toons less tedious as well.
    ...but to do it like That, they would need to keep ALL the characters data sets constantly loaded into the game client. Imagine having the total load time of ALL your characters together every time you log in, even when you only want to play one...

    Actually they wouldn't have to load your alternate Character's data sets every time, just their appearance...
    Not for the "quickchange" option I was replying to.
    For that they would -indeed- need to load ALL the data sets. I am just saying, it makes no sense to load all the data just so some people can swap toons quickly, when most people are not gonna use the swap option that much, and instead will just play one character of theirs for a bit. No sense forcing them to awayt a loading time for ALL the characters, right?
    Depends on what it's worth to ZOS to do it...
    Not exactly.
    More like "Depends on what they thing it -could- be worth in terns of profit"...
    Because that is the driving force between a business like ZOS - making profits. So every improvement that people on the forums argue with "Oh, it would be nice for me personally..." has to hold up the "...but would it make us more money then we need to pay to have it coded?" test.
    This thing? Nah.

    Like mentioned, costomizable -servants- where they can sell a lot of extra customization stuff in the crown store... THAT is something we can hope for someday. But just mirroring your alts for no extra profit for ZOS? Not bloody likely. ;)
  • Chaos2088
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    Sorry wouldn't want this, this will promote people to make and use up good name slots someone else who actually wanted to use it, from using it.

    Now people will just make toons to make their homes seem more lively.

    Great way to sell additional character slots tho...
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  • idk
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    Won't happen. Ever. Still, why would you travel to your house just to log on another character, instead of just logging out?

    Exactly. It seems like more of a nuisance to do so.

    Also, it makes zero sense to spend an enormous amount of time developing a new character select system when the current one would still be an absolute requirement. This alone is the very reason this will not happen ever. That also means the current character select one is far superior to what OP suggests.
  • Hymzir
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    As I have said in all the previous incarnations of this thread, it is a great idea and one ZOS really should implement.

    Unfortunately, ZOS has never even bothered to comment on this idea. Maybe it is impossible due to the way they have set the base code, who knows. We for sure don't, since ZOS keeps silent about it.

    However, even with that being said, I fail to see why it would be that difficult to do. Or atleast give us a partial version of it.

    I'd just be happy if I could set my characters as static items in my homes and have them actually meet each other.

    The ability to access their inventory like a bank, and swap gear, would be much appreciated, but just their presence would be enough for me. I have multiple houses, some "owned" by my main, while others are the homes of my alts. I'd like to have them actually present in their home when I decide to go over and visit them.

    The easiest way I can think of doing this, is by introducing a new item called mannequin. This mannequin would copy the current visual appearance of one of your characters. You could then add that character in a house. They would have some sort of flag attached, that turned them on and off, based on whether you logged on the character they are copies of or not.

    You could even buy several of these dummies and create multiple version of each character. You could have their appearance to be different in different houses. That way a character could have one appearance when they are in their own home, and another where I place them as guests in my mansion.

    They could also copy the current assigned personality of the copied character and be set to play idles at random from that personality. They would not need any actual character data to be loaded, since their appearance would be stored in the mannequin, and would not automatically change, whenever the character the dummy was based on, changed appearance.

    This could also be used as the basis of armor display furnishings, a feature that is often requested. Just have the dummies act as inactive mannequins as default, that either copy the personality and equipment of the target, or just the equipment, and act as inanimate armor display stands in your home.

    I fail to see why this would be all that difficult to implement. Unless ZOS based ESO on some utterly obscure and convoluted coding.

    The ability to access other character's inventory, would be a trickier thing to do, and its feasibility depends on how the game is set up. But to me, that would be just extra gravy. The ability to have my characters hang out together would be a far more important feature.

    - Edit -

    As for swapping characters... That might be impossible. Depends on the way things are set up, and the time ZOS would be willing to spend on it. But it's not as if ZOS doesn't have access to the source code, and couldn't add new features to the game. They do it all the time. But in anycase, char swapping would be a nice feature, but not all that important to me.
    Edited by Hymzir on February 15, 2020 12:00PM
  • Ermiq
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    I said it before:
    solasub wrote: »
    Our non-played characters waiting in our houses
    Nah.
    Those would not make sense for many people - why would my pact librarian have an covenant knight in his home? Why would my orc paladin invite a dominion criminal?
    Worse, the system only loads the current character once you go from the selection screen into the game, so it would require some coding to bring in your alts too...
    And it -still- makes no more sense to me then it did back then.
    Langeston wrote: »
    Not only would it liven up your home, but it would make changing toons less tedious as well.
    ...but to do it like That, they would need to keep ALL the characters data sets constantly loaded into the game client. Imagine having the total load time of ALL your characters together every time you log in, even when you only want to play one...

    Actually they wouldn't have to load your alternate Character's data sets every time, just their appearance. The rest of the data set could be set to be loaded when you swap characters from within the game through interacting with them.

    The main reason why people ask for this feature is people want to be able to swap characters or manage alts inventory with no loading screens in between.
    If there's no actual inventory at the alt characters, and you still have to load to a new character then this feature couldn't be considered QoL, because it does nothing to ease the alts management.
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  • Thevampirenight
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    It really would be a nice feature but the issue is possibly implementing it or coding it. It would be likely a coding nightmare to implement.I thought this post was just posting your characters like decorations but I see its more then that.

    Making the house act like a Log in screen would be something that would also be a very complex code issue and would take coding work for sure and also the reason why Log in screen exists as it basically acts like a place holder for your characters account wide logging in from in the game itself from the house might cause a lot of issues for one it would be like switching one character for another so they would have to implement some way to swap through inventories. They would have to likely overhaul the whole system to get it to work.

    I think it would be more likely to see the fully scrapped Enforcer system then this because of how the game servers work. Also we will likely never see the Enforcer pvp system and this in house character swap would be far less likely then the system they fully scraped and put in the trash can. I would not mind being able to have a carbon copy of characters that we can use as decorations for our houses that would be nice. But making it act like a log in screen don't count on it ever ever happening.

    Maybe if they were determined to do this they could but I doubt they would ever be willing to take up something this complex as it does sound like it would be to me. They won't do it unless its worth the time money and effort. Those factors would be the reason why it likely won't ever be done.
    Edited by Thevampirenight on February 15, 2020 2:16PM
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  • Vanos444
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    Langeston wrote: »
    Not only would it liven up your home, but it would make changing toons less tedious as well. Instead of logging out & back in, just travel to your home and you can select which toon you'd like to play.

    It's a simple idea, but I think I would be a big quality of life upgrade. It would be cool to see my toons just idling about the house too.

    I doubt that the low budget servers are able to handle with such a request.
    The game fails to run smoothly, most of the time.
  • AgaTheGreat
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    Langeston wrote: »
    Not only would it liven up your home, but it would make changing toons less tedious as well. Instead of logging out & back in, just travel to your home and you can select which toon you'd like to play.

    It's a simple idea, but I think I would be a big quality of life upgrade. It would be cool to see my toons just idling about the house too.

    Porting to my house takes more time than logging off, switching and logging back on.

    No point, too much hassle, too role play-e.

    Waste of time, IMHO.
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  • Mix
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    Would love my characters as "furniture" to liven up my homes!

    I don't see the interact to change characters as something that would be doable, but it is a nice idea.

    Just think of all the costumes/outfits/etc that ZoS would sell us for our less used characters so we could place a copy of them in a house to idle around!
  • Langeston
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    It really would be a nice feature but the issue is possibly implementing it or coding it. It would be likely a coding nightmare to implement.I thought this post was just posting your characters like decorations but I see its more then that.

    Making the house act like a Log in screen would be something that would also be a very complex code issue and would take coding work for sure and also the reason why Log in screen exists as it basically acts like a place holder for your characters account wide logging in from in the game itself from the house might cause a lot of issues for one it would be like switching one character for another so they would have to implement some way to swap through inventories. They would have to likely overhaul the whole system to get it to work.

    I think it would be more likely to see the fully scrapped Enforcer system then this because of how the game servers work. Also we will likely never see the Enforcer pvp system and this in house character swap would be far less likely then the system they fully scraped and put in the trash can. I would not mind being able to have a carbon copy of characters that we can use as decorations for our houses that would be nice. But making it act like a log in screen don't count on it ever ever happening.

    Maybe if they were determined to do this they could but I doubt they would ever be willing to take up something this complex as it does sound like it would be to me. They won't do it unless its worth the time money and effort. Those factors would be the reason why it likely won't ever be done.
    Langeston wrote: »
    Not only would it liven up your home, but it would make changing toons less tedious as well. Instead of logging out & back in, just travel to your home and you can select which toon you'd like to play.

    It's a simple idea, but I think I would be a big quality of life upgrade. It would be cool to see my toons just idling about the house too.

    Porting to my house takes more time than logging off, switching and logging back on.

    No point, too much hassle, too role play-e.

    Waste of time, IMHO.

    1. No it doesn't.
    2. "too role play-e" Huh? Do you know what the RP stands for in MMORPG?
  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    With all the murder hoboing that I do, I wouldn't trust my characters alone together...
    Although, in all actuality, yeah be a neat QoL feature.

    And the drop off chest too
  • Langeston
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    idk wrote: »
    Won't happen. Ever. Still, why would you travel to your house just to log on another character, instead of just logging out?

    Exactly. It seems like more of a nuisance to do so.

    Also, it makes zero sense to spend an enormous amount of time developing a new character select system when the current one would still be an absolute requirement. This alone is the very reason this will not happen ever. That also means the current character select one is far superior to what OP suggests.

    ZOS could easily keep all of your toon's stats/inventories loaded into memory right now and you would never be the wiser — loading them when you travel you your home would be completely unnoticeable & trivial to implement. I doubt giving you the option to "hand off" to another one of your toons while you're in your home would require "an enormous amount of time" to develop, in fact I doubt you have any clue whatsoever about how much (or little) work it would take.

    As far as the current implementation being "far superior," most of the people in this thread appear to disagree.

    Now — will it ever be implemented? As I stated, that's very unlikely — but not for the reasons you've listed.
    Edited by Langeston on February 16, 2020 12:34AM
  • rexagamemnon
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    Love this idea, but i doubt it would come to
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  • BackStabeth
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    Langeston wrote: »
    Not only would it liven up your home, but it would make changing toons less tedious as well. Instead of logging out & back in, just travel to your home and you can select which toon you'd like to play.

    It's a simple idea, but I think I would be a big quality of life upgrade. It would be cool to see my toons just idling about the house too.

    I also think since the requirement to use real world money to purchase a banker/merchant assistant, that they should function when placed in a home, exactly as a bank and merchant function when you go to the bank, or to a merchant stall. Meaning the banker placed in your home should allow access to your guild stores, and your merchant in your home should allow for repair of equipment.

    I understand now allowing these things off your quick tool bar, but when placed in the home I don't understand why we still do not have this functionality unless it's just a simple case of lazy coding.
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