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spell penetration
rumple9
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How much in terms of spell damage is the 1486 spell penetration worth on the new moon acolyte set worth ?
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CASP3R421✭✭✭pen = good
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✭✭✭✭How much in terms of spell damage is the 1486 spell penetration worth on the new moon acolyte set worth ?
No answer can be precisely accurate without context. Important factors include:- PvE or PvP?
- Your other spell penetration, if any.
- Your spell damage and max magicka.
- Whether or not your character is a pet sorcerer.
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WrathOfInnos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It’s highly dependent on your build and group. In PVE with a coordinated group it works out to barely over 1% DPS, which is equivalent to around 70 or 80 Spell Damage, and it is the worst DPS set bonus.
For solo or random groups it can be much better, in some cases adding as much as 4% DPS, roughly equivalent to 250 Spell Damage, and becoming the best DPS set bonus.Edited by WrathOfInnos on February 6, 2020 7:39AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It's not that simple. Are we talking PvE or PvP?
This. But even at that the value does not have a direct correlation.
For PvE the spell resistance of NPCs is ~18k. Exceptions for vMA as it varies in there for some reason.
First off in group PvE you are not the sole source of spell penetration. The tank provides Major Breach and in a good group you probably have infused torugs crusher enchant working and alkosh might be in the mix. Those three alone are about 10k spell pen. My math is not exact here as I am working off an old mans feeble mind and I am also providing only a limited example.
So that leaves about 8k resistance. Light Armor Concentration passive provides almost 5k.
After the group spell pen and that 5k there is not much left. Just fill in what remains and the rest can go to spell damage. After the cap more spell pen is worthless in PvE.
For PvP it is more complicated as one can stack above the resistance cap which is also higher that what NPCs have.
Edit: also, if you are not running with a well organized group what the tank/group provides will be much less and it will be harder to reach the 18k cap and that is just life. Do not stress it.Edited by idk on February 5, 2020 10:13PM0 -
thadjarvis✭✭✭✭33000 resists = 50% mitigation
So, 2.25% more damage (generally though there's more to it)
What that is worth depends on the context. Goes from very valuable in PvP or solo PvE to useless on mag necro in an optimized trial group.0 -
Lisutaris✭✭✭✭✭I would guess around 200-250 spell power if i have to say anything. Like everyone else has already mentioned, it depends on content and your own pen. and pen. from buffs.
As long as you dont get over 18,2 pen with all buffs, debuffs, it is one of the strongest stats ingame. PVE.
A lil bit over 33k resistance, you have 50% incoming dmg reduction. So, ~ 2% as long as you are not overpenetrating the enemy resistance AND as long as you have enough of it to get your enemy below 33k armor/resistance. PVP
Numbers are not 100% accurate, depend on much stuff and you should be able to do the math yourself with the infos above.0 -
Kahnak✭✭✭✭✭Spell/Physical Penetration is probably the strongest stat in the game for DPS until you reach the penetration cap.Tombstone Reads: "Forgot to get good"0 -
shimm✭✭✭✭✭I’m still not sure why they can’t show penetration on the character screen... they’re forcing us to do basic math!0 -
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✭I meant PvP but was trying to compare sets really to see if new moon acolyte is worth it0 -
Miraslova✭✭✭I’m still not sure why they can’t show penetration on the character screen... they’re forcing us to do basic math!
There's an addon:
https://esoui.com/downloads/info372-HarvensExtendedStats.html"An it harm none, do what thou wilt"1
