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Beaverton✭✭✭
Yes. No single target abilities. No DOTs. Fighting other large groups is about coordinated AOE burst damage and mobility.
I use different skills and pick very different targets when I occasionally run solo.
I’m not even sure how to reply to you
As an example, sometimes when I solo I pick people off of their horses.Chook (fill in the blank) or Chookana (likewise): I learn more by dying so teach me some more!2 -
TRVP✭✭[Quoted post has been removed.]
I wasn’t picking a fight lol, was only curious as to why nobody wants to pvp in a pvp zoneEdited by ZOS_GregoryV on February 5, 2020 9:11PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭A. No offense, but you aren't worth as much AP as the objective I'm heading for and you have much, much less impact on the campaign score. If you don't knock me off my horse, there's no reason for me to stop to fight you.
B. Random players in the middle of nowhere are like Schroedinger's Duelist.
You might be a stand-up player just ready for a good, honorable duel.
You might be a cloak, run, and hide NB who's going to be a waste of time if the fight turns against you.
You might be the bait in an ambush.
You might be so tanky that the battle stalemates into pointlessness.
The player doesn't know unless they get off their mount and fight.
Really, the question is "Why would a player who isn't looking for 1v1 stop what they were doing to fight a random player?"10 -
Unseelie✭✭✭✭I would imagine it would be to bait out who would be the first person to run to the forum first0 -
CASP3R421✭✭✭
Sorry I don’t use snipe
I run snb/2h and it’s impossible to dismount anybody
imagine not using either gap closer you have =P
My Alt is a Mer
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TRVP✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »A. No offense, but you aren't worth as much AP as the objective I'm heading for and you have much, much less impact on the campaign score. If you don't knock me off my horse, there's no reason for me to stop to fight you.
B. Random players in the middle of nowhere are like Schroedinger's Duelist.
You might be a stand-up player just ready for a good, honorable duel.
You might be a cloak, run, and hide NB who's going to be a waste of time if the fight turns against you.
You might be the bait in an ambush.
You might be so tanky that the battle stalemates into pointlessness.
The player doesn't know unless they get off their mount and fight.
Really, the question is "Why would a player who isn't looking for 1v1 stop what they were doing to fight a random player?"
The player might want to stop to heal before they die to dots🤷♂️ Idk though0 -
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Sorry I don’t use snipe
I run snb/2h and it’s impossible to dismount anybody
No need to apologize to me that your build cannot dismount someone else. If I was the person you tried to gank with a build that could not even dismount me then I would not bother to stop either. I only stopped for 1v1 fights that seemed worthy.4 -
TRVP✭✭
You definitely Zerg. Please tell me where on the bar I can use a gap closer on a solo snb/2h stam dk..
Sorry I don’t use snipe
I run snb/2h and it’s impossible to dismount anybody
imagine not using either gap closer you have =P
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Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »A. No offense, but you aren't worth as much AP as the objective I'm heading for and you have much, much less impact on the campaign score. If you don't knock me off my horse, there's no reason for me to stop to fight you.
B. Random players in the middle of nowhere are like Schroedinger's Duelist.
You might be a stand-up player just ready for a good, honorable duel.
You might be a cloak, run, and hide NB who's going to be a waste of time if the fight turns against you.
You might be the bait in an ambush.
You might be so tanky that the battle stalemates into pointlessness.
The player doesn't know unless they get off their mount and fight.
Really, the question is "Why would a player who isn't looking for 1v1 stop what they were doing to fight a random player?"
The player might want to stop to heal before they die to dots🤷♂️ Idk though
Who uses dots in cyrodiil?
You definitely Zerg. Please tell me where on the bar I can use a gap closer on a solo snb/2h stam dk..
Sorry I don’t use snipe
I run snb/2h and it’s impossible to dismount anybody
imagine not using either gap closer you have =P
Well, there you have it. You’re in a dueling spec and want to find people to duel. People you’re going after aren’t in a dueling spec so don’t want to fight. Answer should be obvious.
If it makes you feel better you would have won vs that player, and when that player was with their group they’d be able to farm hundreds of people in your spec.Edited by Iskiab on February 5, 2020 7:15PMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten3 -
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TRVP✭✭[snip]VaranisArano wrote: »A. No offense, but you aren't worth as much AP as the objective I'm heading for and you have much, much less impact on the campaign score. If you don't knock me off my horse, there's no reason for me to stop to fight you.
B. Random players in the middle of nowhere are like Schroedinger's Duelist.
You might be a stand-up player just ready for a good, honorable duel.
You might be a cloak, run, and hide NB who's going to be a waste of time if the fight turns against you.
You might be the bait in an ambush.
You might be so tanky that the battle stalemates into pointlessness.
The player doesn't know unless they get off their mount and fight.
Really, the question is "Why would a player who isn't looking for 1v1 stop what they were doing to fight a random player?"
The player might want to stop to heal before they die to dots🤷♂️ Idk though
Who uses dots in cyrodiil?
You definitely Zerg. Please tell me where on the bar I can use a gap closer on a solo snb/2h stam dk..
Sorry I don’t use snipe
I run snb/2h and it’s impossible to dismount anybody
imagine not using either gap closer you have =P
Well, there you have it. You’re in a dueling spec and want to find people to duel. People you’re going after aren’t in a dueling spec so don’t want to fight. Answer should be obvious.
I’m not in a 1v1 set up though? I’m in a open world set up
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Sorry I don’t use snipe
I run snb/2h and it’s impossible to dismount anybody
No need to apologize to me that your build cannot dismount someone else. If I was the person you tried to gank with a build that could not even dismount me then I would not bother to stop either. I only stopped for 1v1 fights that seemed worthy.
So you only stop to 1v1 “worthy” opponents, just come out and say you only duel low levels😅VaranisArano wrote: »A. No offense, but you aren't worth as much AP as the objective I'm heading for and you have much, much less impact on the campaign score. If you don't knock me off my horse, there's no reason for me to stop to fight you.
B. Random players in the middle of nowhere are like Schroedinger's Duelist.
You might be a stand-up player just ready for a good, honorable duel.
You might be a cloak, run, and hide NB who's going to be a waste of time if the fight turns against you.
You might be the bait in an ambush.
You might be so tanky that the battle stalemates into pointlessness.
The player doesn't know unless they get off their mount and fight.
Really, the question is "Why would a player who isn't looking for 1v1 stop what they were doing to fight a random player?"
The player might want to stop to heal before they die to dots🤷♂️ Idk though
Who uses dots in cyrodiil?
You definitely Zerg. Please tell me where on the bar I can use a gap closer on a solo snb/2h stam dk..
Sorry I don’t use snipe
I run snb/2h and it’s impossible to dismount anybody
imagine not using either gap closer you have =P
Well, there you have it. You’re in a dueling spec and want to find people to duel. People you’re going after aren’t in a dueling spec so don’t want to fight. Answer should be obvious.
I’m not in a 1v1 set up though? I’m in a open world set up
With no gap closer for sorcs?Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten3 -
CASP3R421✭✭✭dk unrelenting grip (almost forgot)
My Alt is a Mer
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »A. No offense, but you aren't worth as much AP as the objective I'm heading for and you have much, much less impact on the campaign score. If you don't knock me off my horse, there's no reason for me to stop to fight you.
B. Random players in the middle of nowhere are like Schroedinger's Duelist.
You might be a stand-up player just ready for a good, honorable duel.
You might be a cloak, run, and hide NB who's going to be a waste of time if the fight turns against you.
You might be the bait in an ambush.
You might be so tanky that the battle stalemates into pointlessness.
The player doesn't know unless they get off their mount and fight.
Really, the question is "Why would a player who isn't looking for 1v1 stop what they were doing to fight a random player?"
The player might want to stop to heal before they die to dots🤷♂️ Idk though
Why?
Stopping to heal means dismounting myself when you haven't dealt enough damage to knock me off my mount. Better to just keep moving towards my objective and get out of range. If you can't deal enough damage to dismount me, I'm not worried about dying.
"Oh, but you'll die to my DOTs if you don't dismount and heal!"
Then you are a lot better at putting DOTs on fast-moving riders than the vast majority of players who try to hit me while I'm riding to an objective. Weren't you complaining above that its impossible to dismount players with your SnB/2H build?6 -
Salix_alba✭✭✭✭just so i'm clear people are complaining about an army operating like an army kind of instead of a bunch of loose cannons in the middle of a WARZONE I just don't get this generation.7 -
TRVP✭✭[Quoted post has been removed.]
Not once have I “cried” I simply asked why don’t people dismount and fight? What’s the logic behind it. I’ve got my answer. Because they want to get on crown or go take a keep.Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on February 5, 2020 9:35PM1 -
TRVP✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »A. No offense, but you aren't worth as much AP as the objective I'm heading for and you have much, much less impact on the campaign score. If you don't knock me off my horse, there's no reason for me to stop to fight you.
B. Random players in the middle of nowhere are like Schroedinger's Duelist.
You might be a stand-up player just ready for a good, honorable duel.
You might be a cloak, run, and hide NB who's going to be a waste of time if the fight turns against you.
You might be the bait in an ambush.
You might be so tanky that the battle stalemates into pointlessness.
The player doesn't know unless they get off their mount and fight.
Really, the question is "Why would a player who isn't looking for 1v1 stop what they were doing to fight a random player?"
The player might want to stop to heal before they die to dots🤷♂️ Idk though
Why?
Stopping to heal means dismounting myself when you haven't dealt enough damage to knock me off my mount. Better to just keep moving towards my objective and get out of range. If you can't deal enough damage to dismount me, I'm not worried about dying.
"Oh, but you'll die to my DOTs if you don't dismount and heal!"
Then you are a lot better at putting DOTs on fast-moving riders than the vast majority of players who try to hit me while I'm riding to an objective. Weren't you complaining above that its impossible to dismount players with your SnB/2H build?
I play multiple builds/classes. For example if I was on my mag sorc. I’ll just curse, endless fury, frag someone on a mount, most of the time it will kill them, but sometimes they’ll have like 3/4K health still with curse on them and just not dismount to heal
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TRVP✭✭I’ve got my answer now boys✊ Appreciate it. Also to the mongs about to say “use a gap closer” my answer is simply, no. [snip]
Also my build doesn’t have any space for a gap closer.
God speed ladies n gents✊
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Sorry I don’t use snipe
I run snb/2h and it’s impossible to dismount anybody
imagine not using either gap closer you have =P
Gap closers nor even stuns will dismount people so long as their mount has stamina. Used to be the opposite.0 -
CASP3R421✭✭✭
you wouldnt make teddy roosevelt get off his horse
My Alt is a Mer
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »A. No offense, but you aren't worth as much AP as the objective I'm heading for and you have much, much less impact on the campaign score. If you don't knock me off my horse, there's no reason for me to stop to fight you.
B. Random players in the middle of nowhere are like Schroedinger's Duelist.
You might be a stand-up player just ready for a good, honorable duel.
You might be a cloak, run, and hide NB who's going to be a waste of time if the fight turns against you.
You might be the bait in an ambush.
You might be so tanky that the battle stalemates into pointlessness.
The player doesn't know unless they get off their mount and fight.
Really, the question is "Why would a player who isn't looking for 1v1 stop what they were doing to fight a random player?"
The player might want to stop to heal before they die to dots🤷♂️ Idk though
Why?
Stopping to heal means dismounting myself when you haven't dealt enough damage to knock me off my mount. Better to just keep moving towards my objective and get out of range. If you can't deal enough damage to dismount me, I'm not worried about dying.
"Oh, but you'll die to my DOTs if you don't dismount and heal!"
Then you are a lot better at putting DOTs on fast-moving riders than the vast majority of players who try to hit me while I'm riding to an objective. Weren't you complaining above that its impossible to dismount players with your SnB/2H build?
I play multiple builds/classes. For example if I was on my mag sorc. I’ll just curse, endless fury, frag someone on a mount, most of the time it will kill them, but sometimes they’ll have like 3/4K health still with curse on them and just not dismount to heal
Ok, So you do seem to understand some builds work better than others. Hopefully you will fix the build that failed in the example you provided today [snip].
[Edit for bait.]Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on February 5, 2020 9:39PM2 -
TRVP✭✭
you wouldnt make teddy roosevelt get off his horse
I don’t think you understand because ur offended by the word “zerger”
Basically nothing in this current meta seems to dismount, doesn’t matter if I have gap closers nothing dismounts anybody. The fact that I don’t have any gap closers on this current build I’m using makes it impossible to dismount anybody when all I can seem to hit them with is noxious breath and deep slash.
Anyway you’ll never understand. Have a good night
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you clearly dont play in kaal
A small group is 5/6 which I sometimes play in, I only asked why do people stay on their mounts instead of trying to fight?
The leader commands troops. Every soldier has a job.
“Where is the siege bubble?”
“Sorry bro I had to run around a rock/tree 50 times like a dog chasing its tail to satisfy some dude from the internet because he will judge me later”#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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✭✭✭✭✭oxygen_thief wrote: »
you clearly dont play in kaal
A small group is 5/6 which I sometimes play in, I only asked why do people stay on their mounts instead of trying to fight?
bla bla bla the majority of so called small groups sits on resources and farms lonely people till zerg comes to punish them.
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So to sum it all up, you stay on ur mount refusing to heal or engage in combat to get to the next keep quicker? Wouldn’t it be quicker to simply dismount, kill whoever is attacking you then proceed to pvdoor?
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If your opening attack could t dismount them, that’s a sign you aren’t worth the time probablyEdited by ZOS_GregoryV on February 5, 2020 9:48PM#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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you wouldnt make teddy roosevelt get off his horse
I don’t think you understand because ur offended by the word “zerger”
Basically nothing in this current meta seems to dismount, doesn’t matter if I have gap closers nothing dismounts anybody. The fact that I don’t have any gap closers on this current build I’m using makes it impossible to dismount anybody when all I can seem to hit them with is noxious breath and deep slash.
I didn't quote the insult, but at its core here you are correct. The changes to mount stamina from last year mean it is much harder to dismount someone. I've been on both sides of that.
My personal experiences are that in that situation, dismounting to heal is almost never the right answer. The time spent dismounting is just gifting the other player a large offense window. If I don't want to engage, my odds are better to just keep riding. If I do want to engage, I'm still better off riding on till I have a large gap, then dismount and come back on a more even footing.3 -
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You expect everyone to stand and fight, even the ones who know they'll most likely lose when they're caught alone? Many simple reasons. They know they'll lose and they don't want to. They know when they lose there's a high chance the attacker will bag them repeatedly for the simple crime of losing. Or they just have somewhere they want or need to be and they're not going to let you stop them and make them ride the distance again.Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on February 5, 2020 9:52PMCP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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Sorry I don’t use snipe
I run snb/2h and it’s impossible to dismount anybody
You need to pick your battles. You're never going to simply kill everyone you encounter. They could be easily just doing their own thing.1
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