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Now they nerfing iceheart?
Somber97866
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Here we go,lol! They cannot go one patch without nerfing something,lol!
The reason people used to it over "Phoenix" and whatever else they said that it was compared to was because it actually worked as needed!
Well there goes another monster helm nerfed into Oblivion. and the fact that they reference some PVE stuff like VMA , haha! I don't know anyone that uses Iceheart in VMA to make score runs!
Maybe the brand new players who use it to get a complete until they learned all the mechanics and where the spawn spots are!
I'm not going to be happy until the necro which has been broken for 3 months now, stop casting magic siphon on its own even though it's sloted on the other bar on my Xbox controller!
I guess it's not happening like that on PC or else it would be all hands on deck to get it corrected! I guess we console players are just a bunch of peasants!
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Edited by ZOS_Icy on November 23, 2025 7:12PM The reason people used to it over "Phoenix" and whatever else they said that it was compared to was because it actually worked as needed!
Well there goes another monster helm nerfed into Oblivion. and the fact that they reference some PVE stuff like VMA , haha! I don't know anyone that uses Iceheart in VMA to make score runs!
Maybe the brand new players who use it to get a complete until they learned all the mechanics and where the spawn spots are!
I'm not going to be happy until the necro which has been broken for 3 months now, stop casting magic siphon on its own even though it's sloted on the other bar on my Xbox controller!
I guess it's not happening like that on PC or else it would be all hands on deck to get it corrected! I guess we console players are just a bunch of peasants!
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LukosCreyden✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭"I'm not going to be happy until the necro which has been broken for 3 months now, stop casting magic siphon on its own even though it's sloted on the other bar on my Xbox controller!"
Goodness, I thought that was just me derping up my button presses! It happens to me occasionally on ps4 too.Struggling to find a new class to call home.Please send help.3 -
NeillMcAttack✭✭✭✭✭
✭I guess all those PvP’rs got their way again. Got damn it!!PC EU - NoCP PvP, is real PvPTiidehunter Nord StamDK EP PvP MainLegion Commander Tresdin Stamplar DC PvE MainSephirith Altmer MagPlar EP Gondar the Bounty Hunter Khajiit StamBlade DCThe Dirge Redguard StamNecro EP Disruptor Stormcrafter Nord StamSorc ADLone Druid Bosmer Stam Warden EP Necro-Phos Argonian MagBlade AD@ McAttack in gamePlayed since beta, and then on console at release, until the game became unplayable on console.6 -
Somber97866✭✭✭✭✭They Nerf the damage shield, they Nerf the damage and now it has a 6 second cool down. They essentially Nerfed it into uselessness!7
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Somber97866✭✭✭✭✭Yay! Another useless monster helm to sit in my bank account and take up space. And me not deconning it just in case they decide to bring it back one day down the road is some retro bring back thing5
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✭✭✭✭NeillMcAttack wrote: »I guess all those PvP’rs got their way again. Got damn it!!
This has nothing to do with PvP. People weren't using it much there and no one was complaining about it. It's being nerfed because the Mother Ciannait monster set coming in the new DLC is a crappier version and they wanted to try to make it look better (rather than just making it good on its own).PC/NAMountain God | Leave No Bone Unbroken | Apex Predator | Pure Lunacy | Depths Defier | No Rest for the Wicked | In Defiance of DeathMeet my characters :
Defanged the Devourer | Nature's Wrath | Relentless Raider | True Genius | Bane of Thorns | Subterranean Smasher | Ardent Bibliophile
vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vDSA | vMoL HM | vHoF HM | vAS+2 | vCR+2 | vBRP | vSS HM | vKA | vRGIT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL THE SAME NOW, THANKS ZOS18 -
Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭RIP my combat physician and iceheart NB...it was fun trolling with it while it lasted...0 -
snoozy✭✭✭✭✭
✭honestly what is zos' problem with solo players??
this is so unnecessary and just plain mean.
people asked for a story mode. so let's make solo play even harder by nerfing their best defensive set into oblivion!
now they'll have to run group content to experience the story and they'll be forced to buy the new dlc to farm a set that is only viable for templars
i'm so done with this.
solo players are paying customers as well, you know??? and they would buy more dlc if they could actually run them solo without being forced to group by mechanics. 
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Somber97866✭✭✭✭✭I'm with heaven 13 on this one.I kind of didn't realize that they had a new monsters that coming out that would do like that same thing.
You would think with all the creativity at ZOS they could come up with a new monster set that isn't so similar that they would have to Nerf iceheart to make way for it?0 -
BisDasBlutGefriert✭✭✭✭✭What is the description on that mother ciannait monster set? I honestly don't know.Edited by BisDasBlutGefriert on February 4, 2020 12:38PM~There’s a positive in every negative. Sometimes the positive is harder to find than other times, but there is ALWAYS one there~0 -
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✭BisDasBlutGefriert wrote: »What is the description on that mother ciannait monster set? I honestly don't know.
(2 items) While in combat, casting an ability with a cast time or channeling an ability grants you a damage shield that absorbs 3000 damage for 10 seconds. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds."One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star."
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BisDasBlutGefriert✭✭✭✭✭Thank you @drkfrontiers !~There’s a positive in every negative. Sometimes the positive is harder to find than other times, but there is ALWAYS one there~2
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logarifmik✭✭✭✭✭
✭This change will put my Warden Ice Tank build under a big question. I don't see any good alternatives, I don't want this change, and I don't understand why it's needed.EU PC: @logarifmik | Languages: Русский, English
Dimitri Frernis | Breton Sorcerer | Damage Dealer | Daggerfall Covenant
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Flaminir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Somber97866 wrote: »I'm with heaven 13 on this one.I kind of didn't realize that they had a new monsters that coming out that would do like that same thing.
You would think with all the creativity at ZOS they could come up with a new monster set that isn't so similar that they would have to Nerf iceheart to make way for it?
Except the new set does not do the same thing... You need a cast time/channelled ability to proc it.
Only Sorc/Templar have those in their usual possible rotation, so it's not even practically usable on most classes.GM of the Unholy LegacyPC/EU/EP3 -
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Contaminate✭✭✭✭✭
✭Just like they nerfed Warhorn to sell the Warden class, we’re going to keep seeing freely-accessible sets and abilities neutered so ZOS can sell players a “solution” to break even2 -
Faulgor✭✭✭✭✭
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"Don't you use heavy attacks?" is the new "Don't you have phones?"Somber97866 wrote: »I'm with heaven 13 on this one.I kind of didn't realize that they had a new monsters that coming out that would do like that same thing.
You would think with all the creativity at ZOS they could come up with a new monster set that isn't so similar that they would have to Nerf iceheart to make way for it?
Except the new set does not do the same thing... You need a cast time/channelled ability to proc it.
Only Sorc/Templar have those in their usual possible rotation, so it's not even practically usable on most classes.Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
Vivec: Worse, buddy. They're buying it.1 -
The Uninvited✭✭✭✭✭
✭NeillMcAttack wrote: »I guess all those PvP’rs got their way again. Got damn it!!
I assume you were being sarcastic here, but I'll just quote myself from the other topic about Iceheart.The Uninvited wrote: »Waiting for the first to say it's the fault of PVP players things get nerfed.Pandora's Promise (rip) | LND | Pactriotic | IKnowWhatUDidLastWinter's | The Uninvited |
Ride the paranoia | All life is pain | Only the grave is real0 -
snoozy✭✭✭✭✭
✭gamergirldk wrote: »nerf pve.. nerf pvp.. now we nerf solo....
nerf combat changes plsPC EU3 -
Danksta✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Somber97866 wrote: »Here we go,lol! They cannot go one patch without nerfing something,lol!
The reason people used to it over "Phoenix" and whatever else they said that it was compared to was because it actually worked as needed!
Well there goes another monster helm nerfed into Oblivion. and the fact that they reference some PVE stuff like VMA , haha! I don't know anyone that uses Iceheart in VMA to make score runs!
Maybe the brand new players who use it to get a complete until they learned all the mechanics and where the spawn spots are!
I'm not going to be happy until the necro which has been broken for 3 months now, stop casting magic siphon on its own even though it's sloted on the other bar on my Xbox controller!
I guess it's not happening like that on PC or else it would be all hands on deck to get it corrected! I guess we console players are just a bunch of peasants!
They don't use it for score runs they use it for no death runs.BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA1 -
MEBengalsFan2001✭✭✭✭✭Older sets over time are adjusted to make the newer sets look better. This happens in all MMO games to ensure that players move on from the older sets to the newer sets. It is just part of playing a MMO. You get use to the changes or simply find a solo player game where these changes rarely happen and if they do most players don't even notice or care.
I'm sure other sets will be adjusted down the road if to many players use them for one reason or another.0 -
clydenelsenub17_ESOSoul ShrivenThis sucks!!! i am seriously considering cancelling my subscription. I only play solo so all the other stuff doesn't matter to me. Please rethink this nerf!!!!1
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logarifmik✭✭✭✭✭
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No one argues with this statement. It's just the nerf itself is ridiculous, turning the monster set into complete garbage. Besides, this change strip Warden Ice tanks of their bread and butter. After/if it'll hit live, I really don't know what monster set to use with my current setup. Nerf defense, nerf offense, but not both at the same time!MEBengalsFan2001 wrote: »Older sets over time are adjusted to make the newer sets look better. This happens in all MMO games to ensure that players move on from the older sets to the newer sets. It is just part of playing a MMO. You get use to the changes or simply find a solo player game where these changes rarely happen and if they do most players don't even notice or care.
I'm sure other sets will be adjusted down the road if to many players use them for one reason or another.EU PC: @logarifmik | Languages: Русский, English
Dimitri Frernis | Breton Sorcerer | Damage Dealer | Daggerfall Covenant
Scales-of-Ice | Argonian Warden | Tank / Healer | Daggerfall Covenant2 -
akdave0✭✭✭✭Why?!
Healers use this set mostly. You have us exposed most of the time, now you have us as sitting ducks. Dumb.0 -
DR4GONFL1✭✭✭✭How about making the new DLC good and new monster sets good instead of nerfing what everyone has worked hard to have. Instead of making the gear we have useless and giving everyone who farmed and golden out these feel like all was for nothing. Instead you are taking away a great set from our inventory which you could of left an option for us and forcing us to use your new set.
Also, now that we are left with a garage monster set which cost your customers 8 gold materials each to improve and giving us a deal that allows us to deconstruct it for 1 gold material in return.
So not only do we lose a great monster set that could of been left an option we all lose around $112,000 (close to guild trader cost) in game gold since it will be worthless now. And that is because of reduced return in the gold material rate from refining received.
Really excited every time a new DLC comes out... SMHEdited by DR4GONFL1 on February 4, 2020 4:07PM1
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