having run multiple pug trials and guild trials i completely disagree.

There are very few people PUGing things like V.maw. Those basically require guilds. And no, being dragged along into one by a friend guild don't count.

mandricus wrote: »

I've now some very close in-game friends and I would like to be part of their guilds. They invite me, but the answer I have to give them it's always the same: not enough slots. Sorry, man, already 5/5.

I think that after all this time, 5 slots are no longer enough for the old players player base, that met a lot of fellow friends during 5 years of adventures in Tamriel.

Please consider adding some more guild slots.

This why there's a friend's list in the 1st place: you don't keep joining guilds just because you know one person or 2 in there. Let's suppose you have 100 friends on 100 different guilds: does this mean you need/want to join 100 guilds?! Come on, it makes no sense...

Besides that, the majority of guilds don't dedicate themselves exclusively to a single type of content...

My personal situation is: I'm part of 3 trading guilds, and I sell almost anything except trait stones (every ESO+ subscriber has usually thousands of them so there is really no demand for them on the market, except some very specific stones like Nirncrux).
I've usually all 90 slots constantly filled, and make hundreds of small size transaction every week. While someone of you may think that to sell stuff for 500 gold it is not worth the effort, I invite you to consider that having your guild store filled with a lot of things, not only the super-pricey items, can drive traffic to your guild trader and help your guild sales in general. Maybe someone is looking for cheap provisioning ingredients, or for cheap low-level crafting material. They come to your guild trader, because they know that they will find what they are looking for, and while they are there, they will also buy some other stuff (because it's faster and convenient, rather than constantly seeking from trader to trader of from city to city to spare just 500 or 1000 golds). It's something very similar to real-world shopping behavior. That's one of the reasons why I like so much ESO current trading system. If you think about it, the system turned out to be similar to the real-world shopping behavior: another example is, if you need to buy multiple things, you know that if you go to "downtown" (Belkarth, Mournhold, Rawlka, etc.) you are going to find almost anything, but things will be a little bit pricey. If you go to a very far and small city or to a trading post, you won't find everything, but you may find an interesting bargain. Again, similar to the real world. But I'm derailing, so let's stick back to the original topic.

Having 3 trading guilds, this leaves me with 2 slots only, for "real" guilds.

One is the first guild I joined. I've had a ton of fun with my guildmates in the past years, however, most of them are no longer playing, new unknown players are coming in, and I find myself to play less and less with these people. However, I can't leave this guild, because I still feel attached to it, and because of the friendly relation I have with some of its members.

Then I have a PvP guild, as during the years I shifted my interest from PvE to PvP.

I have now friends that have a Battleground-specific guild, but I can't join their guild in game. So I miss a lot of opportunities when someone simply asks in guild chat if someone is up for a BG (that is what I do most of the times when I'm playing).

Then I have some friends in a social-PVE guild. I would like to be able to catch the opportunity to run some challenging PvE content when people are looking for someone to complete a group in order to run a Dragonstar Arena, or a DLC dungeon, but again, I can't join their guild so I can't read the guild chat and can't catch these opportunities. Usually these interaction happens in in-game guild chat in a very short timeframe. Nobody is usually calling for a missing member on a discord chat in order to start a party. They usually write those messages in guild chat, and I can't read them because I can't join their guilds. And yes, you could catch these starting parties on the fly if you are on Discord, but I can't be connected to 3 discord vocal channels at the same time.

That's why I see the current guild slots, in my case, as a limitation. As someone else pointed out, during the years a lot of "specialized" guilds were born in ESO. There are RP guilds, Social guilds, Casual guilds, PvP guilds, Hard core PvE guilds, Mid-Core Pve Guilds, Battlegrounds guilds, Achievement-focused guilds, and even timeframe-based guids (two example of real guilds I've met on PC-EU: "Late Night Dungeoneers" and "Nightcappers").

Given how the community turned out to use guilds in ESO, which is I guess a little bit different compared to other MMOs, I started to feel the current number of guild slots as a limitation to my in-game experience. I'm not saying that I want to be part of all of them, but, in my case, 5 is not enough for sure.

i also would like to see more guild slots. I agree that guilds in this game have very narrow focus when it comes to content they do and those that suposedly do everything arent' usually too serious. And I don't mean, that those guilds are more casual or laid-back (that's actually ok), but that you won't do much of declared stuff in reality with them (yea, i know, you may have different experience).

So often guilds in ESO work like big lobbies where people gather to do particular content with each other.
If you want to play trading game, one guild isn't enought for it. More like 3 imo. Then you want at least one PVE guild (preferably more), and 1 PVP guild (and more if you are more serious about PVP). You may also want some social guild, or RP if you into that stuff... You get the idea.

I kinda dont get argument that other games have just one guild slot. I know that being greedy is sin, but some things work differently in ESO xP

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I’m plenty fulfilled keeping up with 4 active guilds sometimes(my G1 is a dead OG guild) in game and 3 additional raiding guilds in Discord.

The not reason we have 5 guild slots anyway is for traders, because the designers centered the economy around guilds and the socialization aspects of the game. If it weren’t for that we’d probably only have one guild just like we’re used to with other games.

Not for everyone. For me, they are not. Otherwise I wouldn't have posted the thread. And other people said the same. May be it's more than enough for you. Not for everyone.

Blinkin8r wrote: »

5 is generous enough. Real games only give you 1.

Real games have a general AH

Neoauspex wrote: »

mandricus wrote: »

As the title say. Not much more to add. I've played ESO for a very long time, since the very beginning of the game (I've missed the beta just for a couple of weeks). During my years in Tamriel I've met lot of very friendly players. A lot of different guilds have grown trough the years, around different interests: PvP guilds, Battlegrounds guilds, PVE guilds, trading guilds. I've now some very close in-game friends and I would like to be part of their guilds. They invite me, but the answer I have to give them it's always the same: not enough slots. Sorry, man, already 5/5.

I think that after all this time, 5 slots are no longer enough for the old players player base, that met a lot of fellow friends during 5 years of adventures in Tamriel.

Please consider adding some more guild slots.

2 guilds is too many

i have 3 guild trader, one housing and one social. Trader guilds tend to be very quiet. They are there to sell stuff. And yes, you need 2 or 3.

JKorr wrote: »

barney2525 wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

Blinkin8r wrote: »

5 is generous enough. Real games only give you 1.

aqnd in many games you are not forced to be in an guild to be able trading, selling stuff

Many? There's an understatement. I can't think of Any other games that make you pay to be in a guild, and are at that point "allowed" to actually sell something. The whole system is garbage

IMHO

*This* game doesn't make you pay to be in a guild. Why is the whole system garbage when the issue seems to be you not bothering to look around to find guilds that don't charge?

I have 5 guilds atm, and have to pay to belong in NONE of them One of them is specifically a trading guild. 3 of them charge no dues/no selling requirements and all three have a trader. The last guild is brand new, and has less than 50 members right now. Trader is for the future in that one. I've sold stuff from all my guilds [the newly made one has a guild store] and can easily make over 160k without maxing out the selling slots in any of the guilds. My choice is to have one specifically designated "trading" guild; the others are social. None make me pay anything.

and where are those traders?

xbobx15 wrote: »

JKorr wrote: »

barney2525 wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

Blinkin8r wrote: »

5 is generous enough. Real games only give you 1.

aqnd in many games you are not forced to be in an guild to be able trading, selling stuff

Many? There's an understatement. I can't think of Any other games that make you pay to be in a guild, and are at that point "allowed" to actually sell something. The whole system is garbage

IMHO

*This* game doesn't make you pay to be in a guild. Why is the whole system garbage when the issue seems to be you not bothering to look around to find guilds that don't charge?

I have 5 guilds atm, and have to pay to belong in NONE of them One of them is specifically a trading guild. 3 of them charge no dues/no selling requirements and all three have a trader. The last guild is brand new, and has less than 50 members right now. Trader is for the future in that one. I've sold stuff from all my guilds [the newly made one has a guild store] and can easily make over 160k without maxing out the selling slots in any of the guilds. My choice is to have one specifically designated "trading" guild; the others are social. None make me pay anything.

and where are those traders?

Auridon/Vulkhel Guard, Stormhaven/Firebrand Keep,Eastmarch/near Windhelm, and sorry, the other one I can't recall atm. I never said they were hub traders. But then I'm not looking to play Elder Trading Online. When I get enough ambition, or accumulate enough stuff to want to sell stuff, I do. The more expensive stuff I'll list in the trading guild, the others get "guildmate prices" even though they have a kiosk. Judging from how fast some items go in those guilds, I probably made some flipper's day with the prices. People get to buy, I get inventory space back. A couple weeks ago, I put out jewelry plating grains, mundane runes, cornflower, gilding wax, a lot of duplicate recipes, and a couple odd motifs I already knew. Ended up with 167k. Could it have been more if I had been in a high dues charging guild in a hub location? Probably. But then what I made wouldn't be complete profit, only a little profit and next week's dues payment.

Edziu wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

mandricus wrote: »

As the title say. Not much more to add. I've played ESO for a very long time, since the very beginning of the game (I've missed the beta just for a couple of weeks). During my years in Tamriel I've met lot of very friendly players. A lot of different guilds have grown trough the years, around different interests: PvP guilds, Battlegrounds guilds, PVE guilds, trading guilds. I've now some very close in-game friends and I would like to be part of their guilds. They invite me, but the answer I have to give them it's always the same: not enough slots. Sorry, man, already 5/5.

I think that after all this time, 5 slots are no longer enough for the old players player base, that met a lot of fellow friends during 5 years of adventures in Tamriel.

Please consider adding some more guild slots.

2 guilds is too many

I could agree with it if we had differant trade system, not created arouind trade guilds and their traders

Auction house IOS/Android app. 1 guild, guild v guild version of Cyro. Lesssss gooooo