It's been 6 years. Has there really been no work into this in 6 years?

Finedaible · January 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LkeMacg-b0&feature=youtu.be&t=3191

Mainman99 · January 2020

They are working on it (TM)
Coming Soon

SpacemanSpiff1 · January 2020

what is "this"? that video is almost two hours long.

max_only · January 2020

It’s almost 2 hours long. Which part are you concerned about?

Finedaible · January 2020

Correct timestamp for spellcrafting:

https://youtu.be/3LkeMacg-b0?t=3191

Donny_Vito · January 2020

Just put the timestamp in a comment here, as the ones people are try to embed just start at the beginning.

Finedaible · January 2020

Spellcrafting starts at 52:45 if that helps. Second video should be linked to correct time stamp.

RABIDxWOLVERINE · January 2020

I believe the guy in charge of it left Zenimax and they shelved it.

Kiralyn2000 · January 2020

Also, any kind of real/meaningful player-controlled "customization" in MMOs (build your own quests/skills/whatever) has quickly devolved into massive exploits and then been nerfed into uselessness. If you were expecting anything more than "change the color on my <skill>", you'd just end up disappointed.

zaria · January 2020

RABIDxWOLVERINE wrote: »

I believe the guy in charge of it left Zenimax and they shelved it.

They looked into it again, as I understand main problem was making it an interesting mechanic while still being balanced.
Two obvious examples. An very expensive spell costing 30K magic would easy do enough damage to oneshot almost anything in PvP. However an long lasting DoT with multiple effects would be perfect in trials, long time debuffs even better.
This is why the shelved it again.

valeriiya · January 2020

They're killing it

Tandor · January 2020

Just accept that spellcrafting isn't happening. You'll be much happier for coming to that realisation!

Just like I've accepted that we're not going to have a fully effective trading system open to all and common to all platforms.

Finedaible · January 2020

I mean, they officially announced and showcased fully finished animations, modeled rooms, and a placeholder UI at Quakecon in 2014 in that video which was supposedly about the future of ESO. I find it hard that the work on this whole system halted and was scrapped entirely because 1 man left the company. Was no one else working on the spellcrafting project? Maybe management wasn't giving Nick the staff or resources to do what he needed to do so he left for Riot Games.

SpacemanSpiff1 · January 2020

Finedaible wrote: »

spellcrafting:

I think Rich touched on it in a recent German stream: not out of the question, but currently not being worked on.

ghastley · January 2020

If the one man who left was the only one who wanted it ...

Iccotak · January 2020

There was probably internal testing that concluded it led to too many balance issues.

That or they are saving it for next year - 2020 is the year of balancing and performance updates.
I would not get your hopes up on spellcrafting though

Finedaible · January 2020

SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »

Finedaible wrote: »

spellcrafting:

I think Rich touched on it in a recent German stream: not out of the question, but currently not being worked on.

To be fair though, that's like saying Maybe, but actually no.

Donny_Vito · January 2020

New management teams in place = new priorities. It may have been on the radar 6 years ago, but it appears they have other issues in their sights now.

ProfessorKittyhawk · January 2020

They mentioned it in a later video/discussion that it's been shelved and effectively canceled because of balancing issues. They have enough trouble balancing classes. Spellcrafting would be catastrophic.

I can see in a few years maybe when/if the game population is really starting to suffer and they decide to pull that out of a hat to try to give the game one last gasp of life. But certainly no time soon.

Royaji · January 2020

The kind of spellcrafting that is feasible to implement will upset people on both sides of the debate.

It won't go far enough for more casual players who really want it (no there won't be levitate or water walking) but it will go far enough to create problems for competitve players (yes, one of the math guys will crunch all the numbers and objectively determine a few of the most effective competitve skills which we all will have to use).

It's a lose/lose situation. No surprise ZOS is not eager to put spellcrafting into the game.

typo

Oreyn_Bearclaw · January 2020

They put that one to bed a while ago. The reality is, spell crafting would be an absolute nightmare to balance.

Every time I hear spellcrafting, I just picture flying around Balmora in Morrowind, one-shotting guards with lighting fireballs. Haha

idk · January 2020

OP puts an almost 2 hour video and says it has been almost 6 years and no work on something mentioned in that video. I looked at it and thought WTF.

Yes, I see OP later gave us a timestamp and noted what they are worried about several posts later and the items is almost an hour into the video. OP, Edit the OP to add the time stamp., maybe even mention what you are even talking about so people do not have to go dig for it. Would make more sense.

As for spellcrafting that OP finally mentioned. Zos has spoken to this recently. They literally said it isn't gonna happen anytime soon as they clearly indicated they have not been working on it. They have other priorities, plain and simple.

wolfie1.0. · January 2020

If they are just now getting to the point of standardizing the games combat mechanics, it's very unlikely that they will let us mess with them anytime soon. Spellcrafting is just something that we have to let go until 2021.

Stebarnz · January 2020

Hahahaha spell crafting! can you imagine how much these clowns would further break this game with that implemented!

SpiderKnight · January 2020

Wasn't there just a recent comment from one of the @Zos that spellcrafting is not on their future roadplan atm? Like they've said before many times before...

Nomadic_Atmoran · January 2020

If they haven't done it in 4 years, and they haven't spoken about it in that time either. Do you really need to ask?

twev · January 2020

RABIDxWOLVERINE wrote: »

I believe the guy in charge of it left Zenimax and they shelved it.

You mean HE was the ONLY guy that could do it?
Lucky for us they don't up the sub $$ to pay for devs....
We might get stuff fixed around here if they did, and then where would we be?

starkerealm · January 2020

RABIDxWOLVERINE wrote: »

I believe the guy in charge of it left Zenimax and they shelved it.

Not quite. It's been looked at, at least, twice. Maybe three times, in the last six years. From what little I know, it was shelved each time it came up. Keep the dream alive, but it's not soon.

Faulgor · January 2020

ProfessorKittyhawk wrote: »

They mentioned it in a later video/discussion that it's been shelved and effectively canceled because of balancing issues. They have enough trouble balancing classes. Spellcrafting would be catastrophic.

I can see in a few years maybe when/if the game population is really starting to suffer and they decide to pull that out of a hat to try to give the game one last gasp of life. But certainly no time soon.

They never mentioned anything about balance, just that they are focusing on performance for now and that spellcrafting isn't on the future roadmap.

And in its 6 year lifetime, ESO has not once been "balanced" to the players' satisfaction.
Why is ESO the only MMO where adding new skills is such an outlandish idea?

starkerealm · January 2020

Faulgor wrote: »

ProfessorKittyhawk wrote: »

They mentioned it in a later video/discussion that it's been shelved and effectively canceled because of balancing issues. They have enough trouble balancing classes. Spellcrafting would be catastrophic.

I can see in a few years maybe when/if the game population is really starting to suffer and they decide to pull that out of a hat to try to give the game one last gasp of life. But certainly no time soon.

They never mentioned anything about balance, just that they are focusing on performance for now and that spellcrafting isn't on the future roadmap.

And in its 6 year lifetime, ESO has not once been "balanced" to the players' satisfaction.
Why is ESO the only MMO where adding new skills is such an outlandish idea?

I'm almost certain, "balance," came up at least once as a reason it got shelved. That said, official statements on spellcrafting have been pretty thin, so it's hard to sort facts from the rumors.