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Overload has the WORST morphs in the HISTORY of this game. I never seen any skill this bad

phoenixkungfu
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Overload can be useful. But it's far from the best ultimate. However that is a opinion. This topic is not about the power of overload. This topic is about the usefulness of the morph. Overload has been nerf and nerf. Until the morph are so lackluster you might as well not even have morphs. Lol the morphs are 2 meters on a trash 6meter heavy attack or a 1k magic return on attack. Yeah the morph option are the worst morphs in the HISTORY of eso. Nothing will change and I know that because if sorcerer are good dlc pay to win are not. But just stating facts
Edited by phoenixkungfu on January 26, 2020 1:25PM
  • iCaliban
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    [snip]

    Overload is a great skill. Mag return on a resource starved class is a great option.

    [edited for baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on May 25, 2025 5:10PM
  • MincVinyl
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    I think you are arguing the wrong points, OL just doesnt work anymore. There are a bunch of bugs that change from patch to patch. I would not be surprised if it just gets completely reworked again, because as it stands you could potentially be banned for using the ult.

    In no way is it a weak ult aswell, for instance it can be paired with other ults and hits just as hard or timed together.

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/539935287426416641/664731914757865493/unknown.png
    or
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/432864999128563724/664986508222267399/unknown.png
    Edited by MincVinyl on January 26, 2020 1:53PM
  • Ankael07
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    Out of all the things to complain about OL you bring out the only things that work properly.

    OL heavy attack is a great execute against dodge builds and that 1100 magicka return equals 2200 magicka recovery. Tell me how thats not useful.



    If you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.
  • VaranisArano
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    Its the WORST morphs in the HISTORY of the game, and that's no HYPERBOLE.
  • Kelces
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    Overload is nice. Though I didn't use it currently and am not sure about the usefullness in PvE, but there are some powerful sorcerers causing a lot of trouble with it in Cyrodiil for sure.
    Edited by Kelces on January 26, 2020 2:13PM
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  • Cerotonin
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    Looks like we found the Sorcerer main.
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Worst skill / ulti morph in the game ? I thought it is Pack Leader (Werewolf ulti morph)...
  • iCaliban
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    Looks like we found the Sorcerer main.

    Dont insult sorcerer mains. [snip]

    [edited for baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on May 25, 2025 5:10PM
  • phoenixkungfu
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    Once again overload is a great ultimate. Far from the best but a good ultimate. The morph is however all but useless. Compare to the unmorph overload is the worst morph of a ultimate. Dont agree list any ultimate and compare the ultimate to unmorph. Its undeniable.
  • logarifmik
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    Dude, you're becoming a meme.
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  • Kadoin
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    pretty sure it cant be as bad soul siphon or sun shield right now
  • TelvanniWizard
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    Can it be used in a stamsorc build?
  • MincVinyl
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    not unless you want to risk a ban @TelvanniWizard
  • TelvanniWizard
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    MincVinyl wrote: »
    not unless you want to risk a ban @TelvanniWizard

    Ok. Now I have to agree with op, what a lame ult.
  • MincVinyl
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    @TelvanniWizard I would link you my youtube vid explaining all of the current live bugs with OL, but I had to re-upload it and it didn't finish by the time I had to leave my pc for the weekend.

    quick rundown:
    OL heavy leaves you in the slow casting speed,
    OL heavy double hits in one instance
    OL heavy animation stacks with audio included
    OL makes your weapons invisible

    on PTS there are a load of new bugs i saw while quickly testing:
    OL Heavy drains ult to 0 from any ult number without any damage/animation
    OL causing you to not be able to light attack after

    Here is a double hit instance: (same link from above, pay attention to the time stamps)
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/432864999128563724/664986508222267399/unknown.png

    Here is the stacking animation:
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/539935287426416641/647168167982137399/unknown.png

    Here is combat footage:
    https://gyazo.com/6de37454c696d14108a9d6d0fa8f6643
    https://gyazo.com/846dded7ac77bc7c39e8f71d8d579ed4

    Here is how it shows on a kill feed:
    https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/9023881c32964a04f9a8cd6831021813-jpg.jpg
  • TelvanniWizard
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    Oh boy
  • 1mirg
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    Overload has been brokenly overtuned for years, so this isn't anything new.
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  • CassandraGemini
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    Sometimes I really wonder why you even keep playing the game, OP. It seems all you ever have to say about it is negative. Bit sad, if you ask me.
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  • furiouslog
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    MincVinyl wrote: »
    @TelvanniWizard I would link you my youtube vid explaining all of the current live bugs with OL, but I had to re-upload it and it didn't finish by the time I had to leave my pc for the weekend.

    quick rundown:
    OL heavy leaves you in the slow casting speed,
    OL heavy double hits in one instance
    OL heavy animation stacks with audio included
    OL makes your weapons invisible

    on PTS there are a load of new bugs i saw while quickly testing:
    OL Heavy drains ult to 0 from any ult number without any damage/animation
    OL causing you to not be able to light attack after

    Here is a double hit instance: (same link from above, pay attention to the time stamps)
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/432864999128563724/664986508222267399/unknown.png

    Here is the stacking animation:
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/539935287426416641/647168167982137399/unknown.png

    Here is combat footage:
    https://gyazo.com/6de37454c696d14108a9d6d0fa8f6643
    https://gyazo.com/846dded7ac77bc7c39e8f71d8d579ed4

    Here is how it shows on a kill feed:
    https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/9023881c32964a04f9a8cd6831021813-jpg.jpg

    I look forward to watching your video early Monday morning.
  • spartaxoxo
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    MincVinyl wrote: »
    not unless you want to risk a ban @TelvanniWizard

    Why would you be banned for ulting?
  • Nerouyn
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    But just stating facts

    It's ridiculous hyperbole.

    Overload is one of two fave ultimates.

    It's great to have an ultimate which isn't just a cooldown ability obfuscated by ESO"s convoluted ultimate system. It's like a second magicka pool. Plus single player games didn't have ESO like staves. Players hurl magic with their hands.

    Like overload!

    I'm more ranged myself so take energy overload. In a wonderful world where ZO dropped the cost of switching morphs and let us do it any time we wanted (outside of combat of course), I might use the other one. Doesn't look awful.
  • Galadius
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    iCaliban wrote: »
    [snip]

    Overload is a great skill. Mag return on a resource starved class is a great option.

    :D

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on May 25, 2025 5:11PM
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  • TelvanniWizard
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    MincVinyl wrote: »
    not unless you want to risk a ban @TelvanniWizard

    Why would you be banned for ulting?

    It was a joke. It meant that using this ult with a stamina build would be so bad, that it would be as bad as a ban. Wich, btw, is pretty lame in my book (the fact, not the joke, wich is regular :D ). One of the morphs could have been thought for stamsorc, dealing physical damage or something like that.
  • phoenixkungfu
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    MincVinyl wrote: »
    not unless you want to risk a ban @TelvanniWizard

    Why would you be banned for ulting?

    It was a joke. It meant that using this ult with a stamina build would be so bad, that it would be as bad as a ban. Wich, btw, is pretty lame in my book (the fact, not the joke, wich is regular :D ). One of the morphs could have been thought for stamsorc, dealing physical damage or something like that.

    Overload heavy attack after the nerfs to range is sadly best used on a stam build. That how bad the nerfs range is 6meter or 8meters is extremely low. Fossilize and fear is 7 meters. A roll dogde is 6 meter. Drawnbreaker is 10 meter. The list goes on. So to have damage with overload heavy you have to be tanky due to range nerf. Stam healing allows damage and toe to toe fighting. Magic doesn't. Its unfair gameplay but true.
  • TheFM
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    Ankael07 wrote: »
    Out of all the things to complain about OL you bring out the only things that work properly.

    OL heavy attack is a great execute against dodge builds and that 1100 magicka return equals 2200 magicka recovery. Tell me how thats not useful.



    It still doesnt change the fact that it is incredibly broken atm, as someone outlined already. Getting stuck in the heavy attack animation for example pretty much forces you to relog, and dont have to tell you how awful that is atm with the event going on, or when you are constantly crashing while trying to join cyro after you relog.
    Edited by TheFM on January 27, 2020 2:04PM
  • phoenixkungfu
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    TheFM wrote: »
    Ankael07 wrote: »
    Out of all the things to complain about OL you bring out the only things that work properly.

    OL heavy attack is a great execute against dodge builds and that 1100 magicka return equals 2200 magicka recovery. Tell me how thats not useful.



    It still doesnt change the fact that it is incredibly broken atm, as someone outlined already. Getting stuck in the heavy attack animation for example pretty much forces you to relog, and dont have to tell you how awful that is atm with the event going on, or when you are constantly crashing while trying to join cyro after you relog.

    I agree, fact are sorcerer overload need help now. And cant wait for another patch. Sorcerer overload need bug fixes, range heavy attack increase morph reward increase. These issues need to happen this pts cycle. Hopefully eso will hear the community out. I honestly been fighting this whole off season for sorcerer. Hopefully they listen. But In totally prepare if they dont. Mainly because sorcerer is not a dlc class.
  • TheFM
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    TheFM wrote: »
    Ankael07 wrote: »
    Out of all the things to complain about OL you bring out the only things that work properly.

    OL heavy attack is a great execute against dodge builds and that 1100 magicka return equals 2200 magicka recovery. Tell me how thats not useful.



    It still doesnt change the fact that it is incredibly broken atm, as someone outlined already. Getting stuck in the heavy attack animation for example pretty much forces you to relog, and dont have to tell you how awful that is atm with the event going on, or when you are constantly crashing while trying to join cyro after you relog.

    I agree, fact are sorcerer overload need help now. And cant wait for another patch. Sorcerer overload need bug fixes, range heavy attack increase morph reward increase. These issues need to happen this pts cycle. Hopefully eso will hear the community out. I honestly been fighting this whole off season for sorcerer. Hopefully they listen. But In totally prepare if they dont. Mainly because sorcerer is not a dlc class.

    I dont think they need to be buffed really, but the animation bug really needs to be fixed, and the light attacks are especially vulnerable to lag i have noticed, la lags a little for me atm, but the la from overload takes a full second or more to fire off. Then you get hate whispers saying youre cheating because 8 of them hit at once from desync.
  • phoenixkungfu
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    TheFM wrote: »
    TheFM wrote: »
    Ankael07 wrote: »
    Out of all the things to complain about OL you bring out the only things that work properly.

    OL heavy attack is a great execute against dodge builds and that 1100 magicka return equals 2200 magicka recovery. Tell me how thats not useful.



    It still doesnt change the fact that it is incredibly broken atm, as someone outlined already. Getting stuck in the heavy attack animation for example pretty much forces you to relog, and dont have to tell you how awful that is atm with the event going on, or when you are constantly crashing while trying to join cyro after you relog.

    I agree, fact are sorcerer overload need help now. And cant wait for another patch. Sorcerer overload need bug fixes, range heavy attack increase morph reward increase. These issues need to happen this pts cycle. Hopefully eso will hear the community out. I honestly been fighting this whole off season for sorcerer. Hopefully they listen. But In totally prepare if they dont. Mainly because sorcerer is not a dlc class.

    I dont think they need to be buffed really, but the animation bug really needs to be fixed, and the light attacks are especially vulnerable to lag i have noticed, la lags a little for me atm, but the la from overload takes a full second or more to fire off. Then you get hate whispers saying youre cheating because 8 of them hit at once from desync.

    I agree with fix the bugs. I hate broken gameplay. Hopefully they will fix the overload heavy attack bug when you use it it keeps you in the animation. I would also like a range increase on power overload. Its simply not competitive with other ultimate and the range allows ROLLING builds to getaway. Plus the range is not fair in any shape or form compared to drawnbreaker 10m plus stun or fear or fossilize 7m
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