Vampirism Overhaul- do you want to see Stage four and three redone to look better?

Thevampirenight · January 2020

Plus fangs I hope they have fangs please add fangs for us Zenimax.
Okay going by what we know they are completely flipping around the vampirism but not altering the appearance to look better since they are flipping around the appearance stage one vampires will now look like stage four vampires and worst of all not overhauling the fugly stage four appearance. I'm opposed to not altering the appearance because of how bad it looks in stage three and four currently. In the pts there was a type of Foe called a Hollowfiend. Looked like they used a skin though for them. But I want to see that skin added to the new default for stage one vampires and I want the Hollowfiend look to have the same eye color but have the same vampire paleness that they seemed to lack with the skin on so it looks like natural vampirism and maybe a fix to the tattoos fading out. It also fits with the death hounds and their eye color. Stage three appearance the new stage two should have the same eye color as the hollowfiend but maybe not looking full on hideous. Stage one the new stage four should look the same but maybe a more red hue color instead of red. Stage two the new stage three should remain the same without any changes.

What they are doing is flipping the script Stage one will be the strongest stage while stage four being the weakest.
Stage one- flipped will have Stage four appearance. Zenimax could you please Overhaul Stage 4 appearance like Bethesda did with vampires with Dawnguard dlc in Skyrim. Its the one stage I want to see overhauled because of how terrible the eye appearance and veins are with stage four. The eyes especially should be overhauled. In my opinion.
Fire Weakness +25%
Health Recovery -75%
Dark Stalker-Passive
Undeath-Passive
Supernatural Recovery-Passive
Ability Cost -21%

Stage 2- flipped will have Stage Three Appearance-
Fire Weakness +20%
Health Recovery -50%
Undeath-Passive
Supernatural Recovery-Passive
Ability Cost -14%

Stage 3 Flipped will have Stage 2 appearance
Fire Weakness +15%
Health Recovery -25%
Supernatural Recovery-Passive
Ability Cost -7%

Stage 4-Stage One Appearance.
Fire Weakness +0%
Healthy recovery -0%
Ability Cost -0%

More information and speculation going by what they have said.
We know is that vampires will get a new slash attack.
They will be given a new Hypnotic Gaze ability more like Dracula but I can totally see it looking more like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTeZZznIxUM
Blood Scion Reworked Ultimate
Vampiric powers that have been seen through the series will be included.
Put the following test in a spoiler so this thread doesn't have such a high wall of text.

Blood Scion form. It won't be like Skryim but if more powerful when well fed. I think the stage you are in will determine how long the Transformation will last. Given it can be entered and left at will I can see it lasting longer then werewolf transformation but will have a set timer of how long it would last and what stage you are in at the time of transformation.
Stage One two minutes, Stage Two minute and a half, Stage Three one minute and Stage Four 30 seconds.
Ultimate I believe batswarm might be added into this ultimate and might only work in this ultimate if they keep the pattern of keeping one ultimate five abilties. The change would be it might only be useable in Blood Scion form.
So what the skill line might look like. Possible abilities that could be added in. Going by what they said.

Blood Scion - Transform into a Powerful Vampire lord Bat Swarm added in as secondary ult summon while transformed - Morphs Blood Talon - Scales off Stamina more ground based Vampire Lord focused on on slashing on ones foes and feeding off them. Devouring Swarm Morph added into Blood Talon. Blood Lord- More flight based vampire Lord with a focus on draining and life drain and summoning. Clouding Swarm Morph added into this morph.
Vampiric Drain-Morphs Remain the Same.
Mist form- Morphs remain the same.
Hypnotic Gaze - Daze a Opponent for a short time. Morphs just examples of what they could be. Hungering Gaze- Able to feed on target. Stunning Gaze-Stun the Target after duration of Gaze.
Misty Slash-Transform into mist and slash at the target Misty Pull- grab the target from behind and move back several feet. Like seen in the Trailer.
Bainful Slash-Attack does disease poison damage and scales off Stamina.
Summon Gargoyle- Summon a gargoyle that attacks your foes for 16 seconds.
Morphs Summon Deathhound- Ability Switches to Summon Death Hound and does cold damage. Morph- Summon Draining Gargoyle that drains the essence of your foes and transfers some of that lifeforce back to the Vampire.
Vampiric Grip- Grab a foe lift them up in the air and slam them to the ground. It won't work like it did in Skyrim because of the potential abuse. Morphs Crushing Grip, Do Crushing damage to the foe as they are lifted up and slammed down. Biting Grip- Bats swarm the target dealing damage as the target gets lifted up and slammed to the ground.

Might see a rework of the Savage Feeding passive otherwise all the other passives might remain the same.

Anyways point of this thread was do you want to see Stage four and three need an overhaul when it comes to appearance?
I did not add an other option this time. As its focused on Stage three and four appearance. Weather you want to see Zenimax update the Vampiric look or not.

Ratzkifal · January 2020

You are confusing everyone with your different numbering of the stages.

Stage 4 will remain Stage 4 with all its passives buffs and detriments. The only thing that changes is how you progress through the stages. You start at stage 1 and look the way you do now. Then you start feeding and progress to stage 2 etc.

Thevampirenight · January 2020

Yes for the Love of all the Divines Plus the Future Talos they need to do it. Stage four/stage three appearance Overhauled and updated. Vampirism should have updated look.

Ratzkifal wrote: »

You are confusing everyone with your different numbering of the stages.

Stage 4 will remain Stage 4 with all its passives buffs and detriments. The only thing that changes is how you progress through the stages. You start at stage 1 and look the way you do now. Then you start feeding and progress to stage 2 etc.

Actually with the flipped change. You will start off at Stage One, but it would look like Stage four instead of one. Then as you grow hungrier you become less monsterious looking. So they are fliping it around. That was what I was pointing out sorry if I confused you.

Ratzkifal · January 2020

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Ratzkifal wrote: »

You are confusing everyone with your different numbering of the stages.

Stage 4 will remain Stage 4 with all its passives buffs and detriments. The only thing that changes is how you progress through the stages. You start at stage 1 and look the way you do now. Then you start feeding and progress to stage 2 etc.

Actually with the flipped change. You will start off at Stage One, but it would look like Stage four instead of one. Then as you grow hungrier you become less monsterious looking. So they are fliping it around. That was what I was pointing out sorry if I confused you.

They are not. Rich said you feed to become powerful. Rich said power makes you ugly. You don't become hungrier when you feed (because that doesn't make any sense), so you definitely become uglier the more powerful and sated you are. They did not relable the Stage names. Nothing about the stages flips. The only thing that flips is what happens when 6hours pass - it's your stage going down instead of up - and what happens when you feed - you go a stage up instead of down.

You do not start off as ugly. You become ugly as you feed.

Thevampirenight · January 2020

Yes for the Love of all the Divines Plus the Future Talos they need to do it. Stage four/stage three appearance Overhauled and updated. Vampirism should have updated look.

Ratzkifal wrote: »

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Ratzkifal wrote: »

You are confusing everyone with your different numbering of the stages.

Stage 4 will remain Stage 4 with all its passives buffs and detriments. The only thing that changes is how you progress through the stages. You start at stage 1 and look the way you do now. Then you start feeding and progress to stage 2 etc.

Actually with the flipped change. You will start off at Stage One, but it would look like Stage four instead of one. Then as you grow hungrier you become less monsterious looking. So they are fliping it around. That was what I was pointing out sorry if I confused you.

They are not. Rich said you feed to become powerful. Rich said power makes you ugly. You don't become hungrier when you feed (because that doesn't make any sense), so you definitely become uglier the more powerful and sated you are. They did not relable the Stage names. Nothing about the stages flips. The only thing that flips is what happens when 6hours pass - it's your stage going down instead of up - and what happens when you feed - you go a stage up instead of down.

You do not start off as ugly. You become ugly as you feed.

Either way still want to see stage three and four overhauled. Given they are reworking vampirism and everything they have updated the Werewolf models I believe. I think its time they do so with the vampire models. Also I know this. Vampires should be feeding to remain sated but to be most sated and look like a stage four vampire now is the reason why I want the model to be overhauled. I can understand being more ugly when you over do it. I just want a better looking ugly state.

Ratzkifal · January 2020

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Ratzkifal wrote: »

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Ratzkifal wrote: »

You are confusing everyone with your different numbering of the stages.

Stage 4 will remain Stage 4 with all its passives buffs and detriments. The only thing that changes is how you progress through the stages. You start at stage 1 and look the way you do now. Then you start feeding and progress to stage 2 etc.

Actually with the flipped change. You will start off at Stage One, but it would look like Stage four instead of one. Then as you grow hungrier you become less monsterious looking. So they are fliping it around. That was what I was pointing out sorry if I confused you.

They are not. Rich said you feed to become powerful. Rich said power makes you ugly. You don't become hungrier when you feed (because that doesn't make any sense), so you definitely become uglier the more powerful and sated you are. They did not relable the Stage names. Nothing about the stages flips. The only thing that flips is what happens when 6hours pass - it's your stage going down instead of up - and what happens when you feed - you go a stage up instead of down.

You do not start off as ugly. You become ugly as you feed.

Either way still want to see stage three and four overhauled. Given they are reworking vampirism and everything they have updated the Werewolf models I believe. I think its time they do so with the vampire models.

I don't think they updated any Werewolf models. But yes, I'd like an updated look to vampires too or perhaps a cosmetic item that hides it. Unfortunately Rich said they are not doing that. But who knows. There is still time until Q2.

Thevampirenight · January 2020

Yes for the Love of all the Divines Plus the Future Talos they need to do it. Stage four/stage three appearance Overhauled and updated. Vampirism should have updated look.

Ratzkifal wrote: »

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Ratzkifal wrote: »

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Ratzkifal wrote: »

You are confusing everyone with your different numbering of the stages.

Stage 4 will remain Stage 4 with all its passives buffs and detriments. The only thing that changes is how you progress through the stages. You start at stage 1 and look the way you do now. Then you start feeding and progress to stage 2 etc.

Actually with the flipped change. You will start off at Stage One, but it would look like Stage four instead of one. Then as you grow hungrier you become less monsterious looking. So they are fliping it around. That was what I was pointing out sorry if I confused you.

They are not. Rich said you feed to become powerful. Rich said power makes you ugly. You don't become hungrier when you feed (because that doesn't make any sense), so you definitely become uglier the more powerful and sated you are. They did not relable the Stage names. Nothing about the stages flips. The only thing that flips is what happens when 6hours pass - it's your stage going down instead of up - and what happens when you feed - you go a stage up instead of down.

You do not start off as ugly. You become ugly as you feed.

Either way still want to see stage three and four overhauled. Given they are reworking vampirism and everything they have updated the Werewolf models I believe. I think its time they do so with the vampire models.

I don't think they updated any Werewolf models. But yes, I'd like an updated look to vampires too or perhaps a cosmetic item that hides it. Unfortunately Rich said they are not doing that. But who knows. There is still time until Q2.

I think they might have updated them once after beta or during beta not sure but could also be wrong and might not have updated them at all. But Vampirism does need an update with its appearance.

Noxavian · January 2020

Yes for the Love of all the Divines Plus the Future Talos they need to do it. Stage four/stage three appearance Overhauled and updated. Vampirism should have updated look.

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Plus fangs I hope they have fangs please add fangs for us Zenimax.
Okay going by what we know they are completely flipping around the vampirism but not altering the appearance to look better since they are flipping around the appearance stage one vampires will now look like stage four vampires and worst of all not overhauling the fugly stage four appearance. I'm opposed to not altering the appearance because of how bad it looks in stage three and four currently. In the pts there was a type of Foe called a Hollowfiend. Looked like they used a skin though for them. But I want to see that skin added to the new default for stage one vampires and I want the Hollowfiend look to have the same eye color but have the same vampire paleness that they seemed to lack with the skin on so it looks like natural vampirism and maybe a fix to the tattoos fading out. It also fits with the death hounds and their eye color. Stage three appearance the new stage two should have the same eye color as the hollowfiend but maybe not looking full on hideous. Stage one the new stage four should look the same but maybe a more red hue color instead of red. Stage two the new stage three should remain the same without any changes.

What they are doing is flipping the script Stage one will be the strongest stage while stage four being the weakest.
Stage one- flipped will have Stage four appearance. Zenimax could you please Overhaul Stage 4 appearance like Bethesda did with vampires with Dawnguard dlc in Skyrim. Its the one stage I want to see overhauled because of how terrible the eye appearance and veins are with stage four. The eyes especially should be overhauled. In my opinion.
Fire Weakness +25%
Health Recovery -75%
Dark Stalker-Passive
Undeath-Passive
Supernatural Recovery-Passive
Ability Cost -21%

Stage 2- flipped will have Stage Three Appearance-
Fire Weakness +20%
Health Recovery -50%
Undeath-Passive
Supernatural Recovery-Passive
Ability Cost -14%

Stage 3 Flipped will have Stage 2 appearance
Fire Weakness +15%
Health Recovery -25%
Supernatural Recovery-Passive
Ability Cost -7%

Stage 4-Stage One Appearance.
Fire Weakness +0%
Healthy recovery -0%
Ability Cost -0%

More information and speculation going by what they have said.
We know is that vampires will get a new slash attack.
They will be given a new Hypnotic Gaze ability more like Dracula but I can totally see it looking more like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTeZZznIxUM
Blood Scion Reworked Ultimate
Vampiric powers that have been seen through the series will be included.
Put the following test in a spoiler so this thread doesn't have such a high wall of text.
Blood Scion form. It won't be like Skryim but if more powerful when well fed. I think the stage you are in will determine how long the Transformation will last. Given it can be entered and left at will I can see it lasting longer then werewolf transformation but will have a set timer of how long it would last and what stage you are in at the time of transformation.
Stage One two minutes, Stage Two minute and a half, Stage Three one minute and Stage Four 30 seconds.
Ultimate I believe batswarm might be added into this ultimate and might only work in this ultimate if they keep the pattern of keeping one ultimate five abilties. The change would be it might only be useable in Blood Scion form.
So what the skill line might look like. Possible abilities that could be added in. Going by what they said.

Blood Scion - Transform into a Powerful Vampire lord Bat Swarm added in as secondary ult summon while transformed - Morphs Blood Talon - Scales off Stamina more ground based Vampire Lord focused on on slashing on ones foes and feeding off them. Devouring Swarm Morph added into Blood Talon. Blood Lord- More flight based vampire Lord with a focus on draining and life drain and summoning. Clouding Swarm Morph added into this morph.
Vampiric Drain-Morphs Remain the Same.
Mist form- Morphs remain the same.
Hypnotic Gaze - Daze a Opponent for a short time. Morphs just examples of what they could be. Hungering Gaze- Able to feed on target. Stunning Gaze-Stun the Target after duration of Gaze.
Misty Slash-Transform into mist and slash at the target Misty Pull- grab the target from behind and move back several feet. Like seen in the Trailer.
Bainful Slash-Attack does disease poison damage and scales off Stamina.
Summon Gargoyle- Summon a gargoyle that attacks your foes for 16 seconds.
Morphs Summon Deathhound- Ability Switches to Summon Death Hound and does cold damage. Morph- Summon Draining Gargoyle that drains the essence of your foes and transfers some of that lifeforce back to the Vampire.
Vampiric Grip- Grab a foe lift them up in the air and slam them to the ground. It won't work like it did in Skyrim because of the potential abuse. Morphs Crushing Grip, Do Crushing damage to the foe as they are lifted up and slammed down. Biting Grip- Bats swarm the target dealing damage as the target gets lifted up and slammed to the ground.

Might see a rework of the Savage Feeding passive otherwise all the other passives might remain the same.

Anyways point of this thread was do you want to see Stage four and three need an overhaul when it comes to appearance?
I did not add an other option this time. As its focused on Stage three and four appearance. Weather you want to see Zenimax update the Vampiric look or not.

I legitimately DO NOT THINK mist form and vampiric drain are going to stay the same. I think they will still be a drain and mist-related ability, but since they are overhauling the ENTIRE class, wouldn't it seem kinda silly for them to keep the speed morph and poison morph? Two of the most useless morphs in the entire game? I feel like with an overhaul of the class they'll at least adjust these two.

Ratzkifal · January 2020

Noxavian wrote: »

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Plus fangs I hope they have fangs please add fangs for us Zenimax.
Okay going by what we know they are completely flipping around the vampirism but not altering the appearance to look better since they are flipping around the appearance stage one vampires will now look like stage four vampires and worst of all not overhauling the fugly stage four appearance. I'm opposed to not altering the appearance because of how bad it looks in stage three and four currently. In the pts there was a type of Foe called a Hollowfiend. Looked like they used a skin though for them. But I want to see that skin added to the new default for stage one vampires and I want the Hollowfiend look to have the same eye color but have the same vampire paleness that they seemed to lack with the skin on so it looks like natural vampirism and maybe a fix to the tattoos fading out. It also fits with the death hounds and their eye color. Stage three appearance the new stage two should have the same eye color as the hollowfiend but maybe not looking full on hideous. Stage one the new stage four should look the same but maybe a more red hue color instead of red. Stage two the new stage three should remain the same without any changes.

What they are doing is flipping the script Stage one will be the strongest stage while stage four being the weakest.
Stage one- flipped will have Stage four appearance. Zenimax could you please Overhaul Stage 4 appearance like Bethesda did with vampires with Dawnguard dlc in Skyrim. Its the one stage I want to see overhauled because of how terrible the eye appearance and veins are with stage four. The eyes especially should be overhauled. In my opinion.
Fire Weakness +25%
Health Recovery -75%
Dark Stalker-Passive
Undeath-Passive
Supernatural Recovery-Passive
Ability Cost -21%

Stage 2- flipped will have Stage Three Appearance-
Fire Weakness +20%
Health Recovery -50%
Undeath-Passive
Supernatural Recovery-Passive
Ability Cost -14%

Stage 3 Flipped will have Stage 2 appearance
Fire Weakness +15%
Health Recovery -25%
Supernatural Recovery-Passive
Ability Cost -7%

Stage 4-Stage One Appearance.
Fire Weakness +0%
Healthy recovery -0%
Ability Cost -0%

More information and speculation going by what they have said.
We know is that vampires will get a new slash attack.
They will be given a new Hypnotic Gaze ability more like Dracula but I can totally see it looking more like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTeZZznIxUM
Blood Scion Reworked Ultimate
Vampiric powers that have been seen through the series will be included.
Put the following test in a spoiler so this thread doesn't have such a high wall of text.
Blood Scion form. It won't be like Skryim but if more powerful when well fed. I think the stage you are in will determine how long the Transformation will last. Given it can be entered and left at will I can see it lasting longer then werewolf transformation but will have a set timer of how long it would last and what stage you are in at the time of transformation.
Stage One two minutes, Stage Two minute and a half, Stage Three one minute and Stage Four 30 seconds.
Ultimate I believe batswarm might be added into this ultimate and might only work in this ultimate if they keep the pattern of keeping one ultimate five abilties. The change would be it might only be useable in Blood Scion form.
So what the skill line might look like. Possible abilities that could be added in. Going by what they said.

Blood Scion - Transform into a Powerful Vampire lord Bat Swarm added in as secondary ult summon while transformed - Morphs Blood Talon - Scales off Stamina more ground based Vampire Lord focused on on slashing on ones foes and feeding off them. Devouring Swarm Morph added into Blood Talon. Blood Lord- More flight based vampire Lord with a focus on draining and life drain and summoning. Clouding Swarm Morph added into this morph.
Vampiric Drain-Morphs Remain the Same.
Mist form- Morphs remain the same.
Hypnotic Gaze - Daze a Opponent for a short time. Morphs just examples of what they could be. Hungering Gaze- Able to feed on target. Stunning Gaze-Stun the Target after duration of Gaze.
Misty Slash-Transform into mist and slash at the target Misty Pull- grab the target from behind and move back several feet. Like seen in the Trailer.
Bainful Slash-Attack does disease poison damage and scales off Stamina.
Summon Gargoyle- Summon a gargoyle that attacks your foes for 16 seconds.
Morphs Summon Deathhound- Ability Switches to Summon Death Hound and does cold damage. Morph- Summon Draining Gargoyle that drains the essence of your foes and transfers some of that lifeforce back to the Vampire.
Vampiric Grip- Grab a foe lift them up in the air and slam them to the ground. It won't work like it did in Skyrim because of the potential abuse. Morphs Crushing Grip, Do Crushing damage to the foe as they are lifted up and slammed down. Biting Grip- Bats swarm the target dealing damage as the target gets lifted up and slammed to the ground.

Might see a rework of the Savage Feeding passive otherwise all the other passives might remain the same.

Anyways point of this thread was do you want to see Stage four and three need an overhaul when it comes to appearance?
I did not add an other option this time. As its focused on Stage three and four appearance. Weather you want to see Zenimax update the Vampiric look or not.

I legitimately DO NOT THINK mist form and vampiric drain are going to stay the same. I think they will still be a drain and mist-related ability, but since they are overhauling the ENTIRE class, wouldn't it seem kinda silly for them to keep the speed morph and poison morph? Two of the most useless morphs in the entire game? I feel like with an overhaul of the class they'll at least adjust these two.

The speed morph is getting an indirect buff in Q1 though, right? Since the stun is not upfront anymore but at the end of the channel, you need to keep close to your target for the stun to come off and the shorter channel time helps with that too.
The mist morph does need a change though.

Noxavian · January 2020

Yes for the Love of all the Divines Plus the Future Talos they need to do it. Stage four/stage three appearance Overhauled and updated. Vampirism should have updated look.

Ratzkifal wrote: »

Noxavian wrote: »

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Plus fangs I hope they have fangs please add fangs for us Zenimax.
Okay going by what we know they are completely flipping around the vampirism but not altering the appearance to look better since they are flipping around the appearance stage one vampires will now look like stage four vampires and worst of all not overhauling the fugly stage four appearance. I'm opposed to not altering the appearance because of how bad it looks in stage three and four currently. In the pts there was a type of Foe called a Hollowfiend. Looked like they used a skin though for them. But I want to see that skin added to the new default for stage one vampires and I want the Hollowfiend look to have the same eye color but have the same vampire paleness that they seemed to lack with the skin on so it looks like natural vampirism and maybe a fix to the tattoos fading out. It also fits with the death hounds and their eye color. Stage three appearance the new stage two should have the same eye color as the hollowfiend but maybe not looking full on hideous. Stage one the new stage four should look the same but maybe a more red hue color instead of red. Stage two the new stage three should remain the same without any changes.

What they are doing is flipping the script Stage one will be the strongest stage while stage four being the weakest.
Stage one- flipped will have Stage four appearance. Zenimax could you please Overhaul Stage 4 appearance like Bethesda did with vampires with Dawnguard dlc in Skyrim. Its the one stage I want to see overhauled because of how terrible the eye appearance and veins are with stage four. The eyes especially should be overhauled. In my opinion.
Fire Weakness +25%
Health Recovery -75%
Dark Stalker-Passive
Undeath-Passive
Supernatural Recovery-Passive
Ability Cost -21%

Stage 2- flipped will have Stage Three Appearance-
Fire Weakness +20%
Health Recovery -50%
Undeath-Passive
Supernatural Recovery-Passive
Ability Cost -14%

Stage 3 Flipped will have Stage 2 appearance
Fire Weakness +15%
Health Recovery -25%
Supernatural Recovery-Passive
Ability Cost -7%

Stage 4-Stage One Appearance.
Fire Weakness +0%
Healthy recovery -0%
Ability Cost -0%

More information and speculation going by what they have said.
We know is that vampires will get a new slash attack.
They will be given a new Hypnotic Gaze ability more like Dracula but I can totally see it looking more like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTeZZznIxUM
Blood Scion Reworked Ultimate
Vampiric powers that have been seen through the series will be included.
Put the following test in a spoiler so this thread doesn't have such a high wall of text.
Blood Scion form. It won't be like Skryim but if more powerful when well fed. I think the stage you are in will determine how long the Transformation will last. Given it can be entered and left at will I can see it lasting longer then werewolf transformation but will have a set timer of how long it would last and what stage you are in at the time of transformation.
Stage One two minutes, Stage Two minute and a half, Stage Three one minute and Stage Four 30 seconds.
Ultimate I believe batswarm might be added into this ultimate and might only work in this ultimate if they keep the pattern of keeping one ultimate five abilties. The change would be it might only be useable in Blood Scion form.
So what the skill line might look like. Possible abilities that could be added in. Going by what they said.

Blood Scion - Transform into a Powerful Vampire lord Bat Swarm added in as secondary ult summon while transformed - Morphs Blood Talon - Scales off Stamina more ground based Vampire Lord focused on on slashing on ones foes and feeding off them. Devouring Swarm Morph added into Blood Talon. Blood Lord- More flight based vampire Lord with a focus on draining and life drain and summoning. Clouding Swarm Morph added into this morph.
Vampiric Drain-Morphs Remain the Same.
Mist form- Morphs remain the same.
Hypnotic Gaze - Daze a Opponent for a short time. Morphs just examples of what they could be. Hungering Gaze- Able to feed on target. Stunning Gaze-Stun the Target after duration of Gaze.
Misty Slash-Transform into mist and slash at the target Misty Pull- grab the target from behind and move back several feet. Like seen in the Trailer.
Bainful Slash-Attack does disease poison damage and scales off Stamina.
Summon Gargoyle- Summon a gargoyle that attacks your foes for 16 seconds.
Morphs Summon Deathhound- Ability Switches to Summon Death Hound and does cold damage. Morph- Summon Draining Gargoyle that drains the essence of your foes and transfers some of that lifeforce back to the Vampire.
Vampiric Grip- Grab a foe lift them up in the air and slam them to the ground. It won't work like it did in Skyrim because of the potential abuse. Morphs Crushing Grip, Do Crushing damage to the foe as they are lifted up and slammed down. Biting Grip- Bats swarm the target dealing damage as the target gets lifted up and slammed to the ground.

Might see a rework of the Savage Feeding passive otherwise all the other passives might remain the same.

Anyways point of this thread was do you want to see Stage four and three need an overhaul when it comes to appearance?
I did not add an other option this time. As its focused on Stage three and four appearance. Weather you want to see Zenimax update the Vampiric look or not.

I legitimately DO NOT THINK mist form and vampiric drain are going to stay the same. I think they will still be a drain and mist-related ability, but since they are overhauling the ENTIRE class, wouldn't it seem kinda silly for them to keep the speed morph and poison morph? Two of the most useless morphs in the entire game? I feel like with an overhaul of the class they'll at least adjust these two.

The speed morph is getting an indirect buff in Q1 though, right? Since the stun is not upfront anymore but at the end of the channel, you need to keep close to your target for the stun to come off and the shorter channel time helps with that too.
The mist morph does need a change though.

Eh, I just think there is so much more they can do with a pure life drain skill than a minor speed buff IMO. Would be cool it there were a morph that'd have mini-funnels of blood lock onto up to 2 nearby enemies within range of the original target. Downside would be less dmg or the removal of the stun. Glad we can agree about the mist form morph though. It is quite literally the epitome of a useless morph.

kargen27 · January 2020

I'd be happy if my vampires tattoos didn't fade.

Langdon64 · January 2020

Yes for the Love of all the Divines Plus the Future Talos they need to do it. Stage four/stage three appearance Overhauled and updated. Vampirism should have updated look.

Wings. Cloven feet and glowy eyes like Soul Reaver games. And we can glide.

Opalblade · January 2020

I just want my tattoos to show up better.

Thevampirenight · January 2020

Yes for the Love of all the Divines Plus the Future Talos they need to do it. Stage four/stage three appearance Overhauled and updated. Vampirism should have updated look.

Opalblade wrote: »

I just want my tattoos to show up better.

Hopefully vampirism will be reworked so they are more visible.

Septimus_Magna · January 2020

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Ratzkifal wrote: »

You are confusing everyone with your different numbering of the stages.

Stage 4 will remain Stage 4 with all its passives buffs and detriments. The only thing that changes is how you progress through the stages. You start at stage 1 and look the way you do now. Then you start feeding and progress to stage 2 etc.

Actually with the flipped change. You will start off at Stage One, but it would look like Stage four instead of one. Then as you grow hungrier you become less monsterious looking. So they are fliping it around. That was what I was pointing out sorry if I confused you.

My thoughts exactly, a well fed vampire should be able to blend in with humans and mer. Often in lore vampires are hard to spot but people in town end up missing for example. When a vampire is starving he should slowly become monstrous, apparently the vampire needs to become a monster to catch his prey.

I also think a well fed vampire should have the current stage 4 buffs and debuffs, a healthy vamp has better mag/stam regen but is also more vulnerable to fire. A monsterous vampire thats starving should have less buffs and debuffs, although I dont like the current stage 0 buffs and debuffs for this. Maybe 10% fire weakness and 10% physical resists or something?

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