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So I was looting barrels in Delve, and saw a Sorc with flapper, but then, revelation spawned.

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So as said, I was looting barrels in one of the Delves, when Sorcerer passed by, followed by his trustworthy twilight matriarch that torment us flapping above crafting stations, banks, merchants, teleport, fish spots, kitchens, bedrooms... flap flap...

But there he was, minding his own business, an ultimate solution. Quiet, cool looking, silently hovering, majestic... The ultimate solution for Matriarch changes.
Wraith!

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Yes I'm aware that it is not the most pressing issue, but since the Chapter is going out, there is still time to replace 3d models, no skill changes, nerfs/buffs, just replace 3d models, the thing is already pretty animated, it should be enough to shoot freaking bolts.
Also, yes it is not a daedric spawn, but it is undead enough for the role of sorcerer companion.

Also poll.



So I was looting barrels in Delve, and saw a Sorc with flapper, but then, revelation spawned. 92 votes

I like the idea, Wraith would be a nice replacement of Matriarch
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BlueVioletPocketNovasidebysideFischblutThragoldjoergingerMichaeAlienoutlawKaunasredgreensunsetRefLibertyEifleber 12 votes
I don't like it for several reasons, I can explain below
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I don't care.
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I would like to say that I bought Physical Collector Edition, peasants.
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Other...
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Nanfoodlekilled_Persephoneredspecter23DBZVelenaSpacemanSpiff1WildRaptorXDustyWarehouserpaGrianasteriMerguezMan 10 votes
Gina for CEO!
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  • Thevampirenight
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    Gina for CEO!
    Can summon a wraith if your a necromancer. Its a healer summon. *Shrugs* Not sure what Gina would do if she was the Ceo just clicked that option.
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  • killed_Persephone
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    I still want a Mount-sized Wolf Guardian instead of the teddy for my Warden... so... never happen..
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  • starkerealm
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    I still want a Mount-sized Wolf Guardian instead of the teddy for my Warden... so... never happen..

    Honestly, that one has more of a chance than the sorc getting necro pets. The wolf doesn't look like something another class can do, there's already one wolf reskin, and the wraith is illegal in town, so having some that were fine, and others that weren't would just be confusing.
  • Houshiki
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    I'd prefer to keep it a daedra since its from the deadra summoning skill-line. That said, flame atronach. Its a daedra, it technically floats, and we sorcs do already have a storm atro, so why not a flame atro.
  • daemonios
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    How would a wraith be better than a matriarch? If anything, the thing looks like it would take up even more space. You could fix pets' target boxes so that they don't block interactions, but that would probably break the ability to target pets in PvP. The fact of the matter is that the only problem with pets is that people are inconsiderate and park their characters, pets out, in front of things other players want to interact with. There is no quick fix for rudeness.

    Also, in TESO undead are exclusive to necromancers. Daedra summoning (scamps and matriarchs) is not the same as messing with the souls of the dead. Don't really see any point in taking up your suggestion.
  • snoozy
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    Gina for CEO!
    remove the wings from the matriarchs and have it walk only. :naughty:

    as stated before, wraith is the necro pet. why should sorcs get it??

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  • Jimmy_The_Fixer
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    Wraith summon is a neat idea, they should give Sorc a whole skill line around summoning undead, maybe even a whole class!
    Edited by Jimmy_The_Fixer on January 21, 2020 10:34AM
  • drkfrontiers
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    Wraith summon is a neat idea, they should give Sorc a whole skill line around summoning undead, maybe even a whole class!

    Like necromancy?
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  • Faulgor
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    Gina for CEO!
    But seriously, Sorc pets need a visual update, especially the Clannfear and Matriarch. The resolution is atrocious.

    Ever since the alternate Warden bear skin, people have been hoping for this. Even if it's in the Crown Store.

    I just don't understand why ZOS doesn't want free money.
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  • MerguezMan
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    Make summons an AoE attack.

    Lasts 1min. Stays in 28m range from summon point.

    If cast in town, make it criminal act with a fee. -1 skill point per summon in town (skillshards randomly reappear in the world).

    I bet we'd have way less annoying pets in town in no time.
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    Or you can, you know, move your mouse (or stick if you are one of those people) around a bit. I can't remember the last time pets were such a serious problem to me that it couldn't be solved by rotating the camera or moving just a bit.

    And I prefer to do my banking in Shornhelm in this really tiny building with 10+ players inside on a good day...
  • Knightpanther
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    I don't like it for several reasons, I can explain below
    Not a chance mate, leave our flappy girl alone, if you have an issue take it up with her, be warned she has a temper!

    Be safe
  • Eldartar
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    Gina for CEO!
    Lets form a committee and get this done (Gina for CEO, not the other thing)
  • Jenzi
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    Just make both pets smaller and make the twilight land when standing still.
  • MerguezMan
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    Royaji wrote: »
    Or you can, you know, move your mouse (or stick if you are one of those people) around a bit. I can't remember the last time pets were such a serious problem to me that it couldn't be solved by rotating the camera or moving just a bit.

    And I prefer to do my banking in Shornhelm in this really tiny building with 10+ players inside on a good day...

    Each day, I get into 12+ players with matriarchs in Rimmen's crafting market. I never saw the skybox from this place. I guess it's a patchwork of bat wings, with some light behind.

    And in Rimmen bank, it's not better. An afk warden's bear blocked the door last week. Had to teleport away, surrounded by flappers that blocked all interactions with bankers.

    Summoning a corpse in town is criminal act, but having a constant giant bat that makes you "move your mouse" for 2mins to interact with crafting table or banker is totally normal ?
  • DustyWarehouse
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    If it must be summoned, I'd like to see the twilight simply scaled down when the player is not in combat. It could just land on the player's shoulder and look all cute.
  • bmnoble
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    I don't like it for several reasons, I can explain below
    Would prefer it be replaced with another Daedra if that is absolutely necessary.

    If they gave Sorc's a permanent wraith combat pet it would annoy a lot of people playing necromancers.
  • killed_Persephone
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    Skins for the Daedras are absolutely fine. I totally agree on that, because I'm playing a Sorc myself, but without pets, because I find them extremely annoying and they are totally ugly..

    When I'm on tour with my warden, I release the bear before I get into town.

    But I still want some diversity for the daedras and for those players who play with them.
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  • RefLiberty
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    I like the idea, Wraith would be a nice replacement of Matriarch
    I'm happy to see positive feedback on this thread cos it is pretty much clear that this subject is something that often pop ups in suggestions and Zos should take a look at it and what can be done.

    And by positive feedback I also consider the people that had they complaints about wraith and had other pretty valid arguments and suggestions.
    I can agree that it is more necro area and that mending spirit is on necro, but I went with it anyway since for necro it is not permanent spawn, and it is cool looking lol.
    But yeah, the atronachs are also great idea.

    Also, my option was always Watcher, on the profile picture.
    Not too big and silently hovering eye with tentacles could be awesome. It is daedra too.
    Regarding the poll, I can see that community feels that Gina needs a promotion which is cool.
    Looking forward to new ideas, maybe Zos finally correct its ways.
    We cannot force people to despawn pets at some areas, that is not customer friendly, but models can be reworked not to flap so much and be a wee bit smaller.
    The main problem here is that it is a flying pet that is too big.
    And a last note, I'm against no pet sorcerers since that is what makes them more unique, otherwise it would bled with necros just another type of shiny spells
    Edited by RefLiberty on January 21, 2020 12:50PM
  • AcadianPaladin
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    Gina for CEO!
    I want my matriarch to be a sylvan nyxad pixie healer!
    PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo
  • CMDR_Un1k0rn
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    I don't like it for several reasons, I can explain below
    As much as I dislike the blasted things... The fact is that the Sorcerer class summons are specifically Daedra.

    A wraith is not a Daedra.

    People bang on about class identity, well...
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  • redspecter23
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    It's still an annoying pet blocking my potential interactions. Yes the flappy flap is the most visually annoying, but all pets can be obtrusive.
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    Could I have one with butterfly model (for size, I don't care what it looks like) instead?
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    get rid of pets
  • RefLiberty
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    I like the idea, Wraith would be a nice replacement of Matriarch
    rpa wrote: »
    Could I have one with butterfly model (for size, I don't care what it looks like) instead?

    We could honestly.
    My secret love is mini Watcher not so much bigger than players head, hovering silently. It can shoot lightning's from his mini tentacles, it is magic anyway.
  • Nanfoodle
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    For all combat pets, I would love to see skins being earned in the game and sold in the crown store. Make it optional. Some people love the current model. For people who dont, skins!
  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    I don't like it for several reasons, I can explain below
    It dead to be a deadra, you know deadric sommoning. Also dont forget it need to be one that can heal
    Also dont necro already got the wraith it would be pretty stupid to have both necro wraith and sorceror wraith
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    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    For all combat pets, I would love to see skins being earned in the game and sold in the crown store. Make it optional. Some people love the current model. For people who dont, skins!

    Also, pets need to be animated, which is a whole other league compared to mere skin jobs. Have you noticed that for all the different mounts, there are only about a dozen base models? Make one, sell many (with flashier colours to set you apart from the plebs, of course).

    [Edit to remove bashing]
    Edited by [Deleted User] on January 21, 2020 8:29PM
  • max_only
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    I don't like it for several reasons, I can explain below
    Necro has this ghostly boy already.
    Try again.
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  • MerguezMan
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    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    For all combat pets, I would love to see skins being earned in the game and sold in the crown store. Make it optional. Some people love the current model. For people who dont, skins!

    Sure. But then, you'd like to see more your pets, I guess ?

    Let's first ask for their default position to be 1m in front of the caster !
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    Edited by MerguezMan on January 21, 2020 4:59PM
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