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Endgame content is trials and pvp?

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mayasunrising
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Endgame content is trials and pvp? 113 votes

Yes
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No
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  • Siohwenoeht
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    Yes
    I'd add vet dungeons as well.
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  • max_only
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    It’s actually fashion.

    You play the trials to get the style pages.
    You pvp to get the AP to trade the style pages for gold so you can buy the missing style pages from trials.
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  • FierceSam
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    No
    It’s

    Vet Trials
    Vet DLC dungeons
    Fashion
    Housing
    Achievement Hunting
    Running with your guildies
    PvP (although that’s fundamentally the same as it was at L10)

    And questing

    Loads of things to do at endgame
  • Alienoutlaw
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    No
    No, the term end game is banded around far to much and implies there is a goal to be reached and a conclusion, this is an MMORPG with many players, player at many levels trials and PvP are 2 very different aspects within that, some are better than others but that does not make them at the "end"
    Edited by Alienoutlaw on January 21, 2020 2:14AM
  • mayasunrising
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    No
    I think end game content is pretty varied, and subject to what personally keeps any given player coming back to the game for more. For me it's pvp (because it's ever evolving and every battle is different), and housing because it offers so many creative possibilities. For my bff it's the social aspect; interacting with other players during events and goofing around. I know many feel it's trials, but I've tried trial guilds, and I do like trials, but it gets grindy, and tbh feels a bit leetist at times. It can give or take them.
    "And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." ♥ Anaïs Nin

    “There’s a difference between wanting to be looked at and wanting to be seen." ♥ Amanda Palmer

    “A game is an opportunity to focus our energy, with relentless optimism, at something we’re good at (or getting better at) and enjoy. In other words, gameplay is the direct emotional opposite of depression.” ♥ Jane McGonigal

    “They'll tell you you're too loud, that you need to wait your turn and ask the right people for permission. Do it anyway." ♥ Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
  • oddbasket
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    Some say it's fishing
  • Unseelie
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    No
    Endgame is fashion and housing.
  • mayasunrising
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    No
    Alienoutlaw wrote: »
    No, the term end game is banded around far to much and implies there is a goal to be reached and a conclusion, this is an MMORPG with many players, player at many levels trials and PvP are 2 very different aspects within that, some are better than others but that does not make them at the "end"

    Well said! There really isn't an end game until a company decides to pull the plug. And even then many MMORPGs have lived on on player run shards etc.
    "And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." ♥ Anaïs Nin

    “There’s a difference between wanting to be looked at and wanting to be seen." ♥ Amanda Palmer

    “A game is an opportunity to focus our energy, with relentless optimism, at something we’re good at (or getting better at) and enjoy. In other words, gameplay is the direct emotional opposite of depression.” ♥ Jane McGonigal

    “They'll tell you you're too loud, that you need to wait your turn and ask the right people for permission. Do it anyway." ♥ Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
  • mayasunrising
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    No
    oddbasket wrote: »
    Some say it's fishing

    But we don't talk to THOSE people. *hides her fishing pole*
    "And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." ♥ Anaïs Nin

    “There’s a difference between wanting to be looked at and wanting to be seen." ♥ Amanda Palmer

    “A game is an opportunity to focus our energy, with relentless optimism, at something we’re good at (or getting better at) and enjoy. In other words, gameplay is the direct emotional opposite of depression.” ♥ Jane McGonigal

    “They'll tell you you're too loud, that you need to wait your turn and ask the right people for permission. Do it anyway." ♥ Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
  • jircris11
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    mayasunrising wrote: »

    Endgame is what you make it to be. For me its decorating, helping new people and crafting with a very rare side if rp.
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  • Dusk_Coven
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    No
    No. PvP is also for people over-gearing and buying skill lines from the cash shop for their re-made under-50 toons to stomp newbies.

    PvP in ESO is also camping outside an enemy faction door with your buddies to kill people while they are still in a loading screen. Pretty sure you don't need to be an endgame player to know what a door looks like.
    Edited by Dusk_Coven on January 21, 2020 2:53AM
  • Kiralyn2000
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    No
    Fashion Wars™ is endgame

    Er, 'endgame' is whatever you make of it. o:)
  • haelene
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    No
    There's actually quite a bit of options for endgame here. Bg's, cyrodill, trials, vet dungeons, solo progression, story content and repeatables, housing, fashion, hoarding objects, ect.
  • Starlock
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    No
    Endgame is when you near the end of the game... and the quit playing entirely because it’s over.

    The concept is non-applicable in any game with endless gameplay loops like ESO.
  • Zordrage
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    Starlock wrote: »
    Endgame is when you near the end of the game... and the quit playing entirely because it’s over.

    The concept is non-applicable in any game with endless gameplay loops like ESO.

    Your wrong.... every game has endgame BUT it depends on the player whats the endgame for him/her

    For example in WoW the endgame for majority of players is Raiding or Mythic challenge dungeons because for them Endgame is getting the Strongest Gear the game offers then wait for the next expansion or Tier Update

    For some its PvP

    In Eso for some people end game is getting all the collectibles for their Housing

    or getting all the different sets

    OR just playing through ALL the story in the game then wait for the next DLC/Chapter for more story

    For some its Zerging and having mindless fun in Cyrodill

    There are people that endgame means getting ALL the achivements the game has..... ouch...

    AND!!!! for some people there is no endgame because they don't set any MAJOR goal for themselfs to reach just Casually playing majority of aspects of the game and having fun in a wast world.

    played many MMOs there is Always an endgame IF you set one for yourself
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  • Veles
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    What is the point of this poll? If trials and pvp end game, then I started my game at the end? : )
  • Recent
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    Yes
    Vma Vdsa
    Vet trials
    Vet dlc
    Vet hm dungeons

    Hardcore pvp, emperor title

    End game is about challenge and skill and not for the faint hearted.


    Having said all that, everyone's endgame is different and for some, vet dungeons and normal trials might just be enough to keep them happy and like they achieved something.
    I have met ex vet raiders tbat are now retired due to health reasons and their endgame is now just questing and fishing.
  • Zordrage
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    Veles wrote: »
    What is the point of this poll? If trials and pvp end game, then I started my game at the end? : )

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  • mairwen85
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    No
    End game is zone chat.
  • idk
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    Siohwenoeht wrote: »
    I'd add vet dungeons as well.

    This. Since there is really not an answer for this the poll is meaningless as both yes and no can mean the very same thing.
  • markulrich1966
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    No
    as much variety as the game offers, as much the endgame content differs.

    For PVP, becoming emperor.
    For PVE, vet hardmode dungeons, trials.

    For "collectors", the skyshard hunter achievement.
    For crafters, the grand master crafter (requires approx 20 mio gold for styles to learn).

    etc. pp.

    There is more, so I think the term is pretty useless, as it is often used for one or two specific goals ignoring the complexity of the game.
    Edited by markulrich1966 on January 21, 2020 2:52PM
  • MerguezMan
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    Yes
    Trials and PvP are endgame content.
    Endgame is not limited to Trials and PvP.

    The way you turned that poll question is confusing.
  • Raisin
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    Yes
    The truest endgame is quitting raiding and commiting yourself to housing full time.

    ...And getting into arguments on the forums.
  • DBZVelena
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    No
    No, endgame is subject to what a player enjoys.

    For me, its creating interesting dressed and kitted out characters.

    I won't touch pvp unless i have to for some reason.
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  • Grianasteri
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    mayasunrising wrote: »

    Yeah but not just that.

    Its also DLC Vet dungeons on HM, etc.

    Also I wouldnt say Normal Trials are "end game" either, any random 12 folk can generally complete them on normal. So the "end game" in this respect I think is from the Vet trials (and +2/3 etc versions).

    Also PVP under 50 and casual PVP, we cant really say that is end game can we?

    So the whole "end game" trope, is far more complex than the poll suggests.

    Finally, EVERYONE must know that its FASHION that is the real end game. Until you look as sexy as my characters, youre not even in my league :p
  • TequilaFire
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    And here I thought it was 10 forum stars! :D
  • xxthir13enxx
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    Yes
    Ctrl Alt Del
    For True Endgame!!!
  • zaria
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    I say endgame is a bit meaningless in ESO. However if you look for an guild for endgame content they would focus on veteran trials, arenas and DLC dungeons. PvP can be done at all levels so not strictly endgame.

    In most traditional MMO endgame came from that you did then you have leveled up an character to max level, you had to be at max level to do hard dungeons doing quests and easier dungeons tended to not give meaningful rewards at this point.

    Grinding just make you go in circles.
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  • Kiralyn2000
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    No
    Veles wrote: »
    What is the point of this poll? If trials and pvp end game, then I started my game at the end? : )

    Well, considering that most of the 'hardcore raider' types I've seen over the years say "The game only starts at endgame!"... :D
  • Odovacar
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    For me: Fashion, Vet Trials, DLC Dungeons, PvP both BG&30dayCP, helping guildies learn & achieve their goals... in that order.
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