Transmute Geode reduces cost!!!!

xiZeroPointix
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Currently a stack of transmute hoses (200) can only transmute 4 item sets. We need to be able to transmits a full 5 piece set. Due to the rarity of the items it takes a month or so to be able to get 50 to transmute one item and is almost not worth using atm. We should reduce the cost to transmute to 40 geodes. Atm if a player works hard and is patient and finally gets 200 stones, it’s a huge let down to only be able to transmute 4 item pieces and leave one piece unaccounted for.
  • oxygen_thief
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    theoretically you can get 50 crystals after you get 40k of ap if you are lucky enough. yes i agree transmuting whole set may be a slow process but 50 crystals per month is a huge exaggeration.
  • Cirantille
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    Honestly

    I destroy the extra, they are abundant

    I wish there was a way to donate these or sell it
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Cyrodiil needs more cannon fodder infantry! Enlist here for 50 transmutes!
  • OG_Kaveman
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    We need to be able to transmits a full 5 piece set.

    what makes this a "need"?
  • Edaphon
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    Working as intended. You're not supposed to transmute everything immediately.
  • stvwhitewalker
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    pvp = AP = geodes simples
  • Alienoutlaw
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    i agree the limit held should be increased to 250/300 but getting more than 50 a month is very easy
    6 per day from pledges =42 pw
    8 trials =40pw
    total 82 per week without going into cyrodiil or battlegrounds
  • The_Old_Goat
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    Zos officially stated that they did not want transmutation to be the main approach to getting your desired, finished set, that they wanted there to still be a "time" investment into completing a 5 piece set. In Cyrodiil you only need to reach 25k alliance points for each character to lock into that 1st tier, which nets you 50 crystals(per character) at the end of the campaign. 30 days is a lengthy period of time but who wants to play a game where you can get your completed endgame gear set within a week or two?
  • L_Nici
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    The prize is good, in my opinion it could be raised. It is super annoying if your inventory is completely blocked by geods after 1 week of PvP, since you already reached 200/200 on the first day. Not to mention the 2 50 Geods you get at the end of every campaign on every character that reached 100k AP.
    Edited by L_Nici on January 20, 2020 1:17PM
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  • Lord_Hypnos
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    Naah. Its good like this. You NEED to learn that you cant have everything you want right away :)
  • munchkinxx
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    Tbh if you are having to transmute 5 pieces, you are definitely doing something wrong.

    Farming is a way of life in ESO, whether it is for mats or gear traits or geodes.

    ....this is also how you learn, by farming and repeating content to do it.

    Edited by munchkinxx on January 20, 2020 1:28PM
  • VaranisArano
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    Actually during the PTS when ZOS first implemented transmutation, the cost was originally 40 stones. They increased it to 50 (and also increased the amount of crystals that dropped from various activities.)

    With it being the case that increasing the requirement to 50 from 40 being a deliberate decision, I don't think the chances of reverting it are too good.
  • markulrich1966
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    I got more than 650 last month.

    1.) create some more toons, level them up to Level 10 (I used 6). They all should be in the same alliance.

    2.) Play with each toon half an hour in Cyro until you reach Tier 1, in the "30 days, faction locked" campaign (you must set it as home campaign!).

    3.) Keep the "rewards for the worthy" mails in your inbox

    4.) Open 1 mail each day to receive additional 4-10 crystals each day

    5.) before the campaign ends, set the other 30 day campaign as home campaign, ignore the "this costs 150.000 AP" message, select "switch when the campaign ends".

    6.) repeat step 2 for this other, non-faction locked campaign, you have 3 or 5 days until it ends.

    So with 6 toons you get 6 * 50 *2 as campaign rewards, plus the ones from the mails.
    Edited by markulrich1966 on January 20, 2020 2:16PM
  • Ithilis
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    Run random dungeons and you end up with way too much. And it is shared per account...I now just destroy them.
    Edited by Ithilis on January 20, 2020 5:27PM
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  • Lirkin
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    We should be able to store up to 1000. I get so many my characters have bag space as I can't put them in the bank or decompress them.
  • AngryOldMan
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    To everyone who has to much transmute crystal. Transmute random weapon to nirnhoned, deconstruct, get nirncrux, profit.
  • Salvas_Aren
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    I can transmute like 19 or 20 items now, just channel all your geodes on your crafter and youre good. :trollface:

    Talking about pieces: 200 crystals is 4 pieces, but its ESO+, therefore a premium goodie. Basic storage is 100, thats 2 items, or a complete monster. Makes sense.
  • Nemesis7884
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    Cirantille wrote: »
    Honestly

    I destroy the extra, they are abundant

    I wish there was a way to donate these or sell it

    maybe for pvper

    for pvers accumulating these crystals is a huge pain the a** and it would be really appreciated if there was another way to get more faster in pve... you probably have to run about 15-20 dungeons on average just to get enough for 1 item which is waaaay too many.

    hopefully you can get these as well through the antiquities
  • coercer02neb18_ESO
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    I never understood the whole 'gems struggle'.. I do BG's for like a week and 5-8 pledges maybe and I get 120-150 gems no problem
  • Brrrofski
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    Cirantille wrote: »
    Honestly

    I destroy the extra, they are abundant

    I wish there was a way to donate these or sell it

    Best thing to do it probably transmute weapons to nirnhoned, break down and hope you get a potent. They sell for like 24/25k on Xbox eu
  • Shantu
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    Wouldn't break my heart to have some of the gear grind reduced.
  • AgaTheGreat
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    I need to keep mine in the chests they arrive in because they are coming out of my ears. If you feel you have not enough, do tier one on your home campaign on each of your characters. Pledges, trials, battlegrounds are good sources too.
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  • Cirantille
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    Brrrofski wrote: »
    Cirantille wrote: »
    Honestly

    I destroy the extra, they are abundant

    I wish there was a way to donate these or sell it

    Best thing to do it probably transmute weapons to nirnhoned, break down and hope you get a potent. They sell for like 24/25k on Xbox eu

    Wait what

    Doesn't it use the potent when you transmute? I always assumed it does

    How, why I didn't think of that before : D
  • Varana
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    Transmuting doesn't use trait materials, so for transmuting into Nirnhoned you don't need nirncrux.
    That said, this is something to do if you really have nothing else to do with your excess crystals and would throw them away otherwise - getting a nirncrux out of deconstruction is by no means guaranteed.
  • Cirantille
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    Varana wrote: »
    Transmuting doesn't use trait materials, so for transmuting into Nirnhoned you don't need nirncrux.
    That said, this is something to do if you really have nothing else to do with your excess crystals and would throw them away otherwise - getting a nirncrux out of deconstruction is by no means guaranteed.

    True but still it is a possibility and the sets I am using for PvE and PvP are ready

    So I was destroying those transmutes, thank you for letting me know!
  • purple-magicb16_ESO
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    In theory, I agree with you. But you're not considering events where you can get additional 'bonus' transmute gems and not only that but when you defeat any of the final dungeon bosses, you have a chance to get a bigger geode that can yeild up to 10 transmute stones. Although I've never gotten more than 2 out of these :(. So if you're running dungeons on more than one char it shouldn't be that agonizing to achieve the required 50 to transmute.

    On the dropped sets, you only really have to transmute jewelry because they don't drop in the newer traits (like bloodthirsty for example). The rest of the gear can be farmed and then I use whichever comes up first, preferred gear trait or 50 crystals. If I'm patient, I keep going and collect more crystals. If not, I use them and start from scratch again.
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  • iiYuki
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    I think its fine, they need to balance it out. If you could get a set in any style and swap them out with 0 effort or time a lot of content would loose a players. People farming overland, or dungeon farm runs etc would all be pointless. Its fine as it is. Its possible to get a lot of transmute crystals a day. RND on multiple alts will net you a few a day for little effort, pvp offers a lot too.
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  • spartaxoxo
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    i agree the limit held should be increased to 250/300 but getting more than 50 a month is very easy
    6 per day from pledges =42 pw
    8 trials =40pw
    total 82 per week without going into cyrodiil or battlegrounds

    6 per day is very unrealistic. Very, very few people can do hard modes of vet dlc each day. More likely you're looking at 5 per day. On top of that, not every trial is reasonable to find a group for either.

    More likely you'll get a group for the crag trials, ncr, and nss. So more like 25 per week.

    So it's much more likely gonna be 30 per week from dailies, and 25 per week for trials.

    A far cry from per month, but not as much as you're making seem realistic either for most either.

    Beyond that a lot of people cannot reasonably do this much grinding during the week.

    So let's check out something a bit more reasonable but still constituing daily play.

    If they do like the dailies on the weekend, and 1 trials during each of the weekdays...they are looking at 25 crystals per week on the trials and 10 more per week on the weekend. That's 35 crystals per week if they are dedicated and playing each day but have a life that prevents them from playing more than 1-2 hours during the weekday.

    Which means they'll take about a week and a half per pieces, or 15 weeks for the full set, nearly 4 months to transmute their full set. And that's people who are playing everyday without fail, and always playing something that will let them transmute. Most will take longer than too.
    Edited by spartaxoxo on January 20, 2020 8:02PM
  • Nerouyn
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    Flipside, some of us have a full character roster with each at the 200 cap.

    I spent 100 recently just to save a few gold and free up inventory slots for that character with uncracked geodes.
  • rumple9
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    Stones should be able to be banked
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