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Which class needs to be buffed the most?
Strider__Roshin
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In the context of PvP which class is in the biggest need of a buff?
Edited by Strider__Roshin on January 11, 2020 1:14PM Which class needs to be buffed the most? 226 votes
Dragonknight
11%
25 votes
Necromancer
19%
44 votes
Nightblade
38%
86 votes
Sorcerer
13%
31 votes
Templar
8%
19 votes
Warden
9%
21 votes
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✭✭✭✭✭NecromancerI voted necro
self synergy harmony bomb aside, that's pretty much what its reliant on, and its ults, its an ult bot.
if you took that away, or nerfed it, trash instantly.ESO player since beta.
game got too disappointing.7 -
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✭✭✭NecromancerNecromancer!
What do you mean, what class do I play? Necromancer, of course.
Huh, what a coincidence.
Edited by Edaphon on January 11, 2020 1:22PM3 -
Paramedicus✭✭✭✭Templartemplars, because they get most hate nowadys. u heateful peoplePC EU
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✭✭✭✭✭The one I play. Everyone else should be nerfed.
(That's what these polls really measure.)25 -
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✭✭WardenTotally misread the op. Wardens are fine in PvP, but frost mages could use some love in PvE.(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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✭✭NightbladeVaranisArano wrote: »The one I play. Everyone else should be nerfed.
(That's what these polls really measure.)
I agree with this and I play Nightblade.In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!3 -
Nanfoodle✭✭✭✭✭WardenI don't think any class needs to be buffed. I think skill and skill lines need to be looked at as to how they fit play style of the class. Balance of how these skills measure up to other classes filling the same role. How can they be changed to measure up but fit that's classes theme. I love my Warden but looking at a number of skills, they don't seem to make sense. I'm sure some minor changes could make a big difference.Edited by Nanfoodle on January 11, 2020 2:56PM0
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✭✭✭✭✭NecromancerVaranisArano wrote: »The one I play. Everyone else should be nerfed.
(That's what these polls really measure.)
meh, I play and main DK.
but I do make sure to always play every class so I know how they are currently doing, and am able to remove personal character bias from the equation.
ESO player since beta.
game got too disappointing.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭NecromancerI dont pvp much, but when i do, it seems like necromancers dont scare me. So probably necros.2 -
technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NecromancerI'd like to play my Necrobanker. I mean other than running around hoping to grave rob ulti dump.
If I could specify magNB, I think I'd still go this way. NB in general is a bit awkward right now but in similar ways as necro in you have to give up a little of the niche. Magicka needs more IMOEdited by technohic on January 11, 2020 3:07PM0 -
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✭Necromanceri voted necro, mostly because some of the spells are (still) broken, but most classes don't need a buff, Zenimax just needs to stop identity erasing and actually balance their skills.0 -
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✭✭NightbladeI PvPed and PvE'd with all of them.
My main is Magicka Sorcerer.
And my answer is Nightblade needs a buff (healing wise for both PvP and PvE). I felt the weakest on this.
And Necromancer abilities need more instant, burst type of damage for PvP. I felt like there isn't much to use in the toolkit. So my hype for necro died...
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notvenousdrake✭✭✭Every class needs a hug after the last few sad patches, though I’d say nightblade and necro need a kiss on the cheek with that too2
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✭✭✭✭NightbladeVaranisArano wrote: »The one I play. Everyone else should be nerfed.
(That's what these polls really measure.)
Not true, I main stamplar but voted nightblade even though NB only gets about 1/10th of my play time. Some of us try to be objective.1 -
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✭✭✭NightbladeNecros need fixes and tweaks still, but I still said NB.
Necros can do well as both stam and mag, it’s in such a weird spot where things are useless or OP. There are lots of things they absolutely should not nerf until other things are fixed.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
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✭✭✭TemplarYou do realize this will likely end up as a post of who plays what class as a main the most right?
There is little chance at all this poll will actually result in picking what class really needs help the most, that is just not how any game forum works.Edited by Skwor on January 11, 2020 4:26PM6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭TemplarObvious nightblade bias, even though I get the most kills on my Stamblade.
Yes I have more heals on my Templar an he dies less, but can't kill nearly as efficiently as my Stamblade.0 -
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✭NecromancerIt was obvious that NBs would win here, because they are the biggest crybabies of them all. Always want even more damage so they can sneak kill everything in their way without ever having to learn how to fight. Stamblade is insanely powerful in PvP same for Magblade, Stamblade is hands down the best class for solo PvP. Obviously you need to know what you are doing which in most cases won't be the case with NBs, since as I said they never learned how to fight.Edited by L_Nici on January 11, 2020 4:35PMPC|EU6 -
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✭WardenWarden was really over nerfed. The stam boost to my magden is actually an overt slap in the face. There are several buffs needed for this class.0 -
D3N7157✭✭✭✭Wardeni see everyone forgot the 12k snipes already and want to buff nightblade again smh my head6
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✭✭NecromancerAnswer is pretty obvious but NB crybabies will intervene. Looking at who's OP I am not far from truth.1 -
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✭✭✭NightbladeOlupajmibanan wrote: »Answer is pretty obvious but NB crybabies will intervene. Looking at who's OP I am not far from truth.
Sure, stamnecro won the last dueling tournament, magnecros are everywhere in cyrodiil, Necros are the preferred PvE dps class... but NB’s are whiners, and they’re the ones with a class bias.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten9 -
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✭✭NecromancerOlupajmibanan wrote: »Answer is pretty obvious but NB crybabies will intervene. Looking at who's OP I am not far from truth.
Sure, stamnecro won the last dueling tournament, magnecros are everywhere in cyrodiil, Necros are the preferred PvE dps class... but NB’s are whiners, and they’re the ones with a class bias.
How many clunky/impractical and non-working skills NB has? Because there is a ton of these in necros toolkit.4 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭NightbladeOlupajmibanan wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Answer is pretty obvious but NB crybabies will intervene. Looking at who's OP I am not far from truth.
Sure, stamnecro won the last dueling tournament, magnecros are everywhere in cyrodiil, Necros are the preferred PvE dps class... but NB’s are whiners, and they’re the ones with a class bias.
How many clunky/impractical and non-working skills NB has? Because there is a ton of these in necros toolkit.
About 4 that are never used.Edited by Iskiab on January 11, 2020 5:36PMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten0 -
azjuwelz✭✭✭✭I need an "Other" option.
NB needs removal of ult cast time, maybe defile back. MagNB bombers are powerful, but that's about it right now. Btw, snipe desync is NOT a class skill, but a game bug that needs to be fixed.
Haven't played necro yet so I can't comment on them, but I'm thinking of trying that next. I keep hearing that there are still issues with blastbones and I don't remember if those were fixed yet. If it's still broken, then it's hard to rate them.
Wardens and DKs seem fine (have both).
Sorcs and Templars are particularly strong right now.Xbox-NA
Guildmaster of Nightmothers Deadly Deals
PVE/PVP Stamblade: Ylandra Silverthorn
PVE Magwarden healer: Raw'zl Dah Zel
PVE DK Tank: Greta Feuerwerk
PVP StamDK: Helga Feuerwerk
PVP Necro Healer: Dratha Helbain
PVE Magcro: Dorian Fey
PVE Magblade: Arivssa Thaoral
PVE Magsorc: Eldara Birchwood2
