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[Account Cold Storage] Should toon names be released too?

  • SickleCider
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    Short answer: No, never.
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  • SocialAssassin
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    Dusk_Coven wrote: »
    When an account is put into Cold Storage (an eventual part of the Performance Improvements Plan), should the character names be released back into availability?

    Absolutely I hate "name squatting" If you're not planning on playing a game for years or as you put it. Being put into cold storage. I think the name should be freed up. You're not playing the game currently. Why should you be allowed to hold on to those names? What? just because.
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  • max_only
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    Asys wrote: »
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    No. DCUO did this and I deleted the game.

    over a stinkin name??? HA

    XxNightcrawlerxX2377 isn’t the same
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    1337xxDeathDealerxx7331 isn’t the same

    The proof is that y’all want the original names, else you’d be satisfied with the substitutions y’all had to make.
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  • Grollok76
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    Dusk_Coven wrote: »
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    Regardless of how long of a break there is, people simply DO care about things like names of their characters or whatever. Us, humans, we're just stupid and wired like that. Most of us anyway.

    I'm thinking accounts that end up in Cold Storage are unlikely to ever be logged back in and the owners have forgotten about ESO.

    I recently went back to WoW after NINE years of not logging in. Losing character names would have turned me away probably.
  • Salvas_Aren
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    Does Zeni delete level 3 chars that serve as name savers?

    A friend told me that some of his level 3s disappeared. :o
  • CMDR_Un1k0rn
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    No. Wouldn't be very fair on the people who lose their computers to fire, flood, hurricane... You get the idea.

    That can happen to any of us.

    Not to mention theft, car smashing into our home, or, to be rather less dramatic, the computer just breaks?

    OP is a dumb idea.
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  • haelene
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    We wouldn't have this issue at all if they would allow multiple people to have the same name. I think it's a better idea to work a system out like that than take away people's character names.
  • ManwithBeard9
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    Does Zeni delete level 3 chars that serve as name savers?

    A friend told me that some of his level 3s disappeared. :o

    Outside of some catastrophic bug, no not the entire character.
  • Blacknight841
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    You all are missing the point... maybe if they actually dealt with the bots, then they wouldn't have to put 10m bot accounts into cold storage. Not to mention, OP, you would be able to get the name "nshckekkns" that you may be interested in. Everyone would be happy and the servers might be playable. Maybe if all the bots started queueing into the group finder, they may do something about them?
  • Nomadic_Atmoran
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    Dusk_Coven wrote: »
    When an account is put into Cold Storage (an eventual part of the Performance Improvements Plan), should the character names be released back into availability?

    Absolutely I hate "name squatting" If you're not planning on playing a game for years or as you put it. Being put into cold storage. I think the name should be freed up. You're not playing the game currently. Why should you be allowed to hold on to those names? What? just because.

    Who are you to decide if someone is name squatting or not?

    Why does their inactivity have to be malicious? Like theyre intentionally trying to inconvenience you. You have no clue why they aren't in the game and that lack of activity should not penalize them by removing things from their account because SocialAssassin didn't get to the character name fast enough.
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  • Tsar_Gekkou
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    max_only wrote: »
    Asys wrote: »
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    No. DCUO did this and I deleted the game.

    over a stinkin name??? HA

    XxNightcrawlerxX2377 isn’t the same
    W0nd3r Wom4n isn’t the same
    1337xxDeathDealerxx7331 isn’t the same

    The proof is that y’all want the original names, else you’d be satisfied with the substitutions y’all had to make.

    Exactly. They want a name, but, they don't want to put extra letters in in it and look like a knockoff. They want the real deal but can't handle the fact someone else has it. I made a new character today and the name I wanted was taken, so I just came up with a different one. Problem solved. I'm just mad that we can't use numbers.
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  • Danikat
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    Does Zeni delete level 3 chars that serve as name savers?

    A friend told me that some of his level 3s disappeared. :o

    I have a character made specifically as a mule who has been level 3 for years and hasn't been logged into in months and he's still there. Plus a few low level characters on the NA server who are always there whenever I log in (which is no more than once every few months). I've never heard of anyone else having low level characters disappear either and I'm not aware of any policy which says they'd do this.

    Even if a character has an inappropriate name ZOS would 'only' force them to be renamed, not delete the entire character.

    Assuming your friend is absolutely certain he didn't delete the characters himself (maybe by accident when trying to delete a different one?) the only explanation I can think of is that someone got into his account - either by stealing his username and password or by gaining access to the computer while he was logged in.

    If he wants to find out what happened it might be worth contacting support with the names of the characters and the date when he first noticed they were gone, to see if they can find out any more info (like when they were deleted and where he was logged in at the time). If it happened recently they might even be able to restore them, but I'm not sure if that's something they're able to do in this game.

    But I'd also recommend he change his password as a precaution.
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  • Ryath_Waylander
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    This is really only a problem for those unoriginal types who want to name their characters, Gandalf, Belgarath, Lillith, Pug, Fiddler, Melisandre, Rand al'Thor, Geralt of Rivia.. :D Use your imagination OP there are millions of names out there.
  • ArzyeL
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    Nop, names should never be released unless the character is deleted by its owner
  • MishMash
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    I left for almost two years and returned to my account exactly as I left it. I was very grateful and IF things were changed on me I may have just shut it down. However, with that said if an account was left dormant for 5yrs AND shows a very short playtime has accumulated... then I would say go for it.
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  • yodased
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    all this trouble just so you can be yodased? I understand you want to be the legend, but its not just the name ;)
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  • James-Wayne
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    I have people on my friends list that havnt logged in since 2014 and I dont think they will either.

    I say release the names.
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  • zyk
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    This is really only a problem for those unoriginal types who want to name their characters, Gandalf, Belgarath, Lillith, Pug, Fiddler, Melisandre, Rand al'Thor, Geralt of Rivia.. :D Use your imagination OP there are millions of names out there.

    In Everquest, we had 200 different variants of Raistlin and Slim Shady. ;)
    Edited by zyk on January 11, 2020 3:38AM
  • DaveMoeDee
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    You all are missing the point... maybe if they actually dealt with the bots, then they wouldn't have to put 10m bot accounts into cold storage. Not to mention, OP, you would be able to get the name "nshckekkns" that you may be interested in. Everyone would be happy and the servers might be playable. Maybe if all the bots started queueing into the group finder, they may do something about them?

    How many bot accounts do you think there are? It only takes a few accounts to make it seem like Tamriel is infested.
  • Lisutaris
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    To release names.... hmmm....
    Yes, but after acc was inactive for 1-2 years at minimum. Timer should not be character based.
    As your @acc stays the same, I don't see the big problem. Actual/active players should be more important than 2y+ inactive ones. Even if its only about char names.

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  • Blackleopardex
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    Dusk_Coven wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Regardless of how long of a break there is, people simply DO care about things like names of their characters or whatever. Us, humans, we're just stupid and wired like that. Most of us anyway.

    I'm thinking accounts that end up in Cold Storage are unlikely to ever be logged back in and the owners have forgotten about ESO.

    They are not unlikely to return, people can have many reasons to take a break from the game, to me this thread seem like you are after a specific name someone possess, take your own advice and use alternative writing for it, I mean you could not care that much about the name, when you expect everyone that should take a temporary break from the game to potentially loose all their characters names that they maybe had since 2014 and not care about it?

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  • Wolfkeks
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    Friend of mine can't play atm because he is in the army...
    So for the sake of his toons names...
    Nope :smile:
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  • barney2525
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    If this was a Free to Play, I would say yes. If you waited a couple years to come back and they removed your character, I can see them getting the character back but you would need to rename it.

    Being as this a Buy the Game to play it - I would not be in favor. I bought it, I own it, I should be able to continue play with my characters no matter how much time passes between log-ins.

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  • Edaphon
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    Dusk_Coven wrote: »
    When an account is put into Cold Storage (an eventual part of the Performance Improvements Plan), should the character names be released back into availability?

    Absolutely I hate "name squatting" If you're not planning on playing a game for years or as you put it. Being put into cold storage. I think the name should be freed up. You're not playing the game currently. Why should you be allowed to hold on to those names? What? just because.

    Why should you be allowed to steal those names?
  • Skcarkden
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    You know, it was only yesterday i actually discovered Character names has a 'somewhat' bit of a use when someone in chat addressed me by my characters name and not my Console accounts Username. I asked "How the hell did you know my character name when we're no where near each other?" and they said they have their settings to show charactaer names in chat, not account names.

    I literally always thought Character names having to be unique across the entire game was absurd when i first joined at the release on ps4. So if someone else had the same character name you couldn't, i never understood why, now i do, and i still think it's an absurd direction they went.

    I changed my chat to show characater names temporarily, it shows a blank white head silhouette beside all names in chat and i promptly changed it back to account names.

    And come to think of it i think i've witnessed a account/character name in chat confusion a few times in the past where someone asks "who is X" when X has been talking in chat for a while and they threw out some other name no one had seen in chat but X had already left so they wouldn't be able to have confirmed it etc.
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    Skcarkden wrote: »
    You know, it was only yesterday i actually discovered Character names has a 'somewhat' bit of a use when someone in chat addressed me by my characters name and not my Console accounts Username. I asked "How the hell did you know my character name when we're no where near each other?" and they said they have their settings to show charactaer names in chat, not account names.

    I literally always thought Character names having to be unique across the entire game was absurd when i first joined at the release on ps4. So if someone else had the same character name you couldn't, i never understood why, now i do, and i still think it's an absurd direction they went.

    I changed my chat to show characater names temporarily, it shows a blank white head silhouette beside all names in chat and i promptly changed it back to account names.

    And come to think of it i think i've witnessed a account/character name in chat confusion a few times in the past where someone asks "who is X" when X has been talking in chat for a while and they threw out some other name no one had seen in chat but X had already left so they wouldn't be able to have confirmed it etc.

    I know its a really interesting thread topic when it gets necroed after a year in the grave...

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    Edited by VaranisArano on January 31, 2021 1:53AM
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