When ZOS says, "play as you want", they don't mean everyone has to play as YOU want.

Cp is part of your build. Take it into consideration. Your pet no cp build won’t work in cp because you’ve overlooked it.

Cp has been frozen for so long that “power creep” is debunked.

Most of the cp buffs etc are percentage values thereby they are multiplicative not additive so...deal.

As there are cp and no cp options EXERCISE them, and spare us one, just one little nerf thread lol.

The_Old_Goat wrote: »

You shouldn't try to limit pvp play for other people. If you don't enjoy the cp pvp, simply don't play it.

Except keeping CP is affecting non-CP, and vice versa, because balance changes are always taken into account with one over the other, not both.

People have been talking about players stacking well beyond 40-50k health in PvP for a while, when that's only ever an issue in CP. Non-CP, you can barely have above 20-21k without intentionally building into health. If Zenimax were to blanket reduce health in PvP, non-CP would become completely unplayable.

Both CP and non-CP are operating in two distinct extremes, and the game cannot be balanced properly when they are. If we want to see proper balance in PvP, one of them has to go. Personally, I'd prefer non-CP to stay since I think it is closer to proper balance, but ultimately, it doesn't matter, either way will end up at the same destination.

Heimpai wrote: »

No cp is dead, so I believe that a lot of players prefer there cp that they earned and can make builds the way they like

Non-CP is dead because the game's population can't support two active campaigns at the same time. Earlier this year, and especially as far back as a year ago or more, non-CP would get pretty active during prime time. It's because there's not a guarantee of pop, that it's now dead. People don't want to play in a dead campaign, no matter the balance or performance.

ArchMikem wrote: »

I tried taking a resource in No CP Cyrodiil before. The guards absolutely wrecked me. CP is a crutch? Yes it is, one I'd fight tooth and nail to keep. Unless they do a massive rework with their plans. I don't mind losing CP, I just mind it if I go from being decent to giving tickles.

Seriously? Every class has at least one skill that can destroy resources.
I'm a mage sorcerer but before you start im tanky with low dps BUT I learnt to adapt after struggling with rescores the first month I played.
Its about a system, go into the tower first, take out the one or two that follow you up top, kill the one on the next level down (still no agro from outside - unless you were spotted by a player) then stand where that one was and nuke the group around the flag.
Here's the issue though - they have insane regen so you need either Suppression Field (best ive found) or a heavy ulti nuke like the destruction staff or Mage guild Ice Comet/ Shooting Star and pair with your best nukes.
For Stamina class ive also used fighters guild ulti and Whirling Blades/Steel Tornado or Brawler on a two hander paired with Hurricane but other classes have similar I believe.
Obviously as a pointy stick wielder you need to be down there on the ground and in their faces.

They are not that hard its just finding a set up that works, you may need to swap in a few AOEs that you wouldn't normally use in open play then swap back out whilst your crapping yourself solo at the flag

Be safe

Ackwalan wrote: »

When ZOS says, "play as you want", they don't mean everyone has to play as YOU want.

no no...
It's play as you want but, the way how we (want to) developed it

For me, no-CP is the way to go in Cyrodiil. Just sets and skills, nothing more to buff you. CP system is a mess.