Rework Dragon Leap Targeting

Pelican · January 2020

There are a few issues with Dragon Leap right now. It currently leaps you to where the enemy is WHEN you press the button, so to fix the issue of fast players simply walking out of its AOE before it lands, you added an INSANE snare that is unaffected by any snare removals. This isn't as noticeable if you get leapt point blank, but if its from max range the snare lasts for 1-2s, and if 2 or more DKs leapt you like that in succession you're basically rooted for a few seconds, unable to do anything about it.

Furthermore, this snare doesn't fix some of leap's targeting issues, like being able to streak/shade/gap close out of its AOE before it lands. So why not remove the snaring effect and base leap's targeting off Chains, which still pulls you directly to the enemy even if he moves a great distance as you cast it? It will allow leap to land reliably all the time without it having to apply an obnoxious and uncounterable snare.

splitsand · January 2020

Wow, a well thought out rational post on the forums. I agree with this 100%. There is no reason leap should disobey snare and root immunity through skills such as RAT, Shuffle, Forward Momentum, and Vamp Mist.

EDIT: Also, an even bigger problem with leap is the buggy stun. You can't break free in the animation and leaves your character sliding/bugged for way too long after you break the stun. Previous buggy stuns like draining shot were fixed and this needs to be at the top of the list.

The change they made to leap a few patches back was a band-aid fix for the major expedition pot and swift meta. We are in a meta now where most classes are extremely slow (unless you are mag with rat -- imagine if shuffle gave minor force and major expedition?) and leap isn't going to miss in close range anyway.

I would hope Zenimax can find a way to resolve this issue, however I have my doubts.

Here's a few other bugs that have been in for too long and need to be fixed ASAP.

Berserker Rage is not getting full cc/snare/root immunity, undo hasn't worked since it launched, immov pots don't work if you get stunned within the first 1.5s of using one (pretty counter intuitive), etc...

It seems they are more focused on pumping out content and milking the crown store than making actual positive changes.

But, I'm hoping for some positive improvements in 2020.

Lastly, use your brain and delete cast times.

- splitsand

Sanguinor2 · January 2020

As Long as they dont copy the whole targeting behaviour of chains onto leap this sounds good.

I dont really trust Zos to not screw this up tho and if they were to implement this they probably will just copy paste chain targeting completely and no one will be able to cast leap anymore because of Elevation issues

Royaji · January 2020

Sanguinor2 wrote: »

As Long as they dont copy the whole targeting behaviour of chains onto leap this sounds good.

I dont really trust Zos to not screw this up tho and if they were to implement this they probably will just copy paste chain targeting completely and no one will be able to cast leap anymore because of Elevation issues

This.

Make Leap (and Chains too, btw) work as normal gapclosers (like Crit Charge) and call it a day.

Thogard · January 2020

And while we’re at it can we also fix the targetting? I love it when I’m gonna leap someone to finish them off and instead I launch myself 20m backwards onto a random target at full health who I didn’t even know was there. It’s the bees knees.

DUTCH_REAPER · January 2020

When you leap the targets pet. I tell ya. Gets me every time boys.

Ragnarock41 · January 2020

Thogard wrote: »

And while we’re at it can we also fix the targetting? I love it when I’m gonna leap someone to finish them off and instead I launch myself 20m backwards onto a random target at full health who I didn’t even know was there. It’s the bees knees.

Lets not forget the **** pet that appears out of thin air when you're about to leap on a streaking sorc.

Davadin · January 2020

please don't change Leap.

please.

for the love of everything holy, don't touch DK leap.

jcm2606 · January 2020

Targeting issues? What targeting issues? I see no targeting issues.

https://clips.twitch.tv/ScarySmilingSageTheTarFu

TrinityBreaker · January 2020

jcm2606 wrote: »

Targeting issues? What targeting issues? I see no targeting issues.

https://clips.twitch.tv/ScarySmilingSageTheTarFu

As buggy as leap can be, I never personally had that happen. But if it did, I'd have the same reaction as the guy streaming it.

Ryanoxx · January 2020

Yes, I agree.