As long as a few people keep gobbling up the reskinned, rehashed stuff that gets put in the Clown Store, ZOS won't deviate one inch from this model. Look around. Every other studio is doing it. Your only choice is not to buy a game with microtransactions, but that doesn't help you when the game you bought adds them after your purchase (my experience with ESO), or when there is a desert out there of games that don't have them. Even AAA titles with DLC and season passes are adding microtransactions. This won't change any time soon.

tuxon wrote: »

how business works... wow man...wow...

Game industry is a business itself, mmos shutting down all the time do you think its because devs got bored and don't want it anymore. You need to make money to add new content, to maintenance the game, it all costs money I'm not sure if you are living in a utopic wonderland or how old are you but this is how the game industry works maybe just go google it every single mmo that shut down and all have the same reason not enough player/not making enough money so yeah this is business not charity.

At best your going to get a few things that can be earned in game, with each new chapter, they are never going to get rid of or even reduce the stuff you have the option of buying in the crowns store it makes them too much money.

Whether you like to accept it or not, those that want to earn stuff are not the ones they are targeting, they know your not going to to be the ones most willing to buy the stuff.

They are targeting all those players that work in real life and don't have the time to do the kind of content, that would allow you to earn stuff equivalent to what is in the crown store, players that have disposable income that allows them to buy all the shiny crap off the store they want.

I will admit I have caved on a few occasions and bought some of that shiny crap as well, probably would have bought a few more things if it were not for the gem currency, I am not stupid enough to waste my money on RNG boxes, to buy some exclusive stuff.

If they sold those items for crowns I would likely buy more from the store more often, maybe with all the talk about loot boxes being debated by various governments will finally put an end to loot boxes but I doubt it will happen anytime soon.

Though not my own money these days got plenty of gold to buy crowns from others, when something catches my eye or I will save the crowns from my sub.

I don't have any issue with this, provided the same principal is employed in reverse. That is, all personalities and skins etc that are earnable only by playing are made available in the crown store to those whose playstyle or RL commitments make it nigh on impossible to obtain them otherwise.

This way everybody will be able to get the items they want one way or another.

tuxon wrote: »

The only hope for this game is making Crownstore items (or at least mounts,pets,furniture) available to get in game via quest chains, dungeons, trials. I remember how exciting it was to get a Telvanni personality in Morrowind expansion even the quest line was a bit long and boring.

And of course classical situation of:

-Dude! Where did you get this mount/outfit/pet?! Looks amazing!
[Every other MMO] - I did this quest and this dungeon and this achievement!
[ESO] - I paid $30 for it in Crownstore.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

you obviously haven't played any OTHER MMO's recently.

Here let me fix it for ya.

-Dude! Where did you get this mount/outfit/pet?! Looks amazing!
[Every other MMO] - I paid $25 for it in the games cash-shop, you should go spend money too or you a noob.
[ESO] - I paid $30 for it in Crownstore. But really i already had the crowns because of the craft-bag sub i have. and it's not like the store comes out with cool stuff that often. Also it clips through the tail on any of ny non-humanoid toons. But who cares right?

p4l4mu7 wrote: »

Tho there are tons of stuff you can get questing, personalities, pets, costumes, mount, skins. Did you even checked the collectibles tab once?

Those tons of stuff are locked behind achievements 99% of the playerbase cant get.

tuxon wrote: »

p4l4mu7 wrote: »

Tho there are tons of stuff you can get questing, personalities, pets, costumes, mount, skins. Did you even checked the collectibles tab once?

AHAHAHA are you even serious? One mount from the hardest configuration of the hardest trial? And the mount is stupid reskin? Or do you mean stupid, useless, non-original mementos that no one uses???
OMG, I'm so happy that I quit this game if ppl with such thought play ESO now...

if you quit, then why are you here?

The substance is debatable, but the Premise is Ludicrous, IMHO

" The Only Hope For This Game " ????

Seriously?

You think everyone will quit playing this game just because there are few unique items to get outside of the crown store?

Ya might want to take a look at the number of characters involved in the current festival event and get back to me on how this game is losing players.

IMHO

The crown store has taken over too much of the game-play in my opinion. There need to be more numerous, and more substantial rewards for actually playing the game *gasp* and not playing the cash shop simulator or slot machine (i. e. gamble crates). Rewarding game-play is the one thing most other popular MMOs do better than ESO. There's very little substance to playing the ESO nowadays because Zo$ would rather have you play the crown store than their terrible game engine and servers they can't fix. ESO has only survived because it has the Elder Scrolls lore tag on it.

Where are the hidden, achievable mounts? Where are hidden, unmarked quests with unique rewards? Where are the rare and interesting enemy/critter/boss spawns with unique loot? Where is the character and class build depth? Where is the meaningful crafting profession we were promised since beta? Where are those things that make players ask, "Woah, where did you get that?!" "Unique" set pieces in this game are simply renamed set pieces with the crappiest trait possible and maybe a different motif applied to them and no special effects (which is overridden by your outfit anyway).

The whole game has turned into a glorified RP/fashion/home simulator with terrible PvP and nothing worth exploring. Sure, story is usually pretty well written and environments well-crafted, but let's face it, there's not very much substance to explore in the end, and you'll be grinding the latest meta-humping sets only for devs to fundamentally nerf all the fun across everything in the entire game every 2-3 months. And the worse is, nothing is gonna change until it inevitably implodes because management in Zo$ is far too comfortable with their current cash flow machine.

They can't even put black dye in a place where the average player can get it in less than six months; you think they'll put the "real" stuff under achievements that aren't basically impossible?

I can see it now. Fire mount: Kill 1,000,000 players in battlegrounds with flame damage while on the Fire Drakes team.