Shadowy Disguise VS Piercing Mark

Rataroto · December 2019

Excuse me but, why doesn't Piercing Mark works against Shadowy Disguise? The ability outright states "even if the target becomes invisible or goes into stealth". I'm sorry but that smells like BS.

ThePedge · December 2019

For 3 seconds.

JinxxND · December 2019

Another skill they nerfed into the ground it used to hard counter shadowy disguise but the combat team has taken away all forms of hard counters such as this and wings for dk's. Coming from a NB main I'm disappointed they did this, they should at least make the detect longer to like 5 seconds. Rewards the person slotting the skill cause right now the detect morph is 100% useless as it doesn't last nearly long enough.

Pauls · December 2019

Its free though, so you can weave this skill while focusing NB. Works even better if you wear Ravager set (guess only few NBs and stamplars use it after rework).

Rataroto · December 2019

ThePedge wrote: »

For 3 seconds.

That's the duration of the invisibility, you know... the one this morph is designed specifically to counter...

JinxxND · December 2019

The old version of the skill was like 30 seconds, that's what you call countering a skill not a 3 second detect only for the nb todo one dodge roll and immediately go back into cloak. The detect on this skill not only should be upped to 5-6 seconds but all other detects as well such as camo hunter/mage light to prevent nb from simply doing one dodge roll and going right back to cloak, with 5-6 seconds you can follow up and do damage on the nb and it forces them to either fight back and cc you, some kinda skillful defensive move and not be a coward or do more then one dodge roll and cloak again like nothing ever happened.

Kadoin · December 2019

Because cloak is not strong enough apparently, that's also why you can cloak nearly all damage in the game (including destro ult, dawnbreaker, meteor, leap, ...) if you do it right, even siege damage

Invis pot work the same way, if not better though. I never get tired of invis potting on an NB attacking me out of stealth and turning the tables. Glad that mark got nerfed and glad Cyrodiil doesn't sell basic detect pots + no NB runs them when they run into non-NBs

Jimmy_The_Fixer · December 2019

10 second reveal sounds fine for dedicated revealing abilities like mark/evil hunter/magelight/flare. These are niche utility spells so it’s a little sad that they’re not even worth casting in the narrow context they’re intended for.

LittlePinkDot · December 2019

I slot it mainly for the debuffs.... You know.. Since they nerfed surprise attack.

sproattt · December 2019

From a PvP perspective. ITS A FREE SKILL. If you really need the longer duration of sight in stealth then it's an l2p issue. Mark doesn't make it onto my backbar unless I'm fighting gankers or cloak spammers. 9 Times outta 10, use Shuffle over it. Cc immunity and reduced damaged from essentially Templars from the aoe reduced damage personally.

JinxxND · December 2019

By time you mark them esp on your back bar and waste a GCD the detect is basically over. The detect needs to be increased to like 6 seconds imo along with all other detect skills.

Zelos · December 2019

I think you guys are just mad, cloak breaks way to much anyway. mark never fails to work, cloak breaks 75% of the time wasting 4k magicka and a GCD and you get nothing in return:) Its one of the only skills in the game that has a chance at failing to work and punishes the person for it. As well as has numerous counter play options that arent just mark, but All AoE, some Dots still break it, their is even a whole potion dedicated to it for magicka players. Mage light and expert hunter both counter it, even more so with how good expert hunter is for stamina it should be on your bar anyway. Oh and by the way lightning staff heavy attacks still break it, so just do that if you're that lazy:)

brandonv516 · December 2019

Zelos wrote: »

I think you guys are just mad, cloak breaks way to much anyway. mark never fails to work, cloak breaks 75% of the time wasting 4k magicka and a GCD and you get nothing in return:) Its one of the only skills in the game that has a chance at failing to work and punishes the person for it. As well as has numerous counter play options that arent just mark, but All AoE, some Dots still break it, their is even a whole potion dedicated to it for magicka players. Mage light and expert hunter both counter it, even more so with how good expert hunter is for stamina it should be on your bar anyway. Oh and by the way lightning staff heavy attacks still break it, so just do that if you're that lazy:)

Not to mention those uber-healing Matriarchs that still follow you around and attack even when the Sorc is half way across the map.

Iskiab · December 2019

Kadoin wrote: »

Because cloak is not strong enough apparently, that's also why you can cloak nearly all damage in the game (including destro ult, dawnbreaker, meteor, leap, ...) if you do it right, even siege damage

Invis pot work the same way, if not better though. I never get tired of invis potting on an NB attacking me out of stealth and turning the tables. Glad that mark got nerfed and glad Cyrodiil doesn't sell basic detect pots + no NB runs them when they run into non-NBs

Is this tongue in cheek? Cloak doesn’t counter any of those abilities. Heck, even the damage orbs with an 8m radius breaks stealth and is hilarious to use on a NB who doesn’t use shade.