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TheFM
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How am I able to get a better connection to the us server, when I live twenty minutes from the EU server? 170 ms to the American one, and 290 to the EU. Wtaf is going on?
  • ChunkyCat
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    the EU server is garbage, duh
  • TheFM
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    ChunkyCat wrote: »
    the EU server is garbage, duh

    It's getting ridiculous, the in game ping is flat out lying at this point, keeps telling me 50 ms which is complete and utter nonsense considering it takes a good half a second for my light attacks to even fire off. That's if they even fire, then u get these ppl that clearly aren't lagging and it'd be great to know how.

    I even tracked the route it takes , and for some ridiculous reason the connection goes from Mannheim Germany, to SWITZERLAND, and then to the Netherlands before it goes to Frankfurt, through some company called liberty communication , which is clearly an American company, like what kind of logic is that when I live right next door to Frankfurt?!
    Edited by TheFM on December 13, 2019 11:51AM
  • CaptainVenom
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    Obviously this isn't working as intended. You should contact ZOS by a ticket.
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  • TheFM
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    Obviously this isn't working as intended. You should contact ZOS by a ticket.
    I will, cuz this is just dumb.

  • Zer0_CooL
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    You should contact ZOS by a ticket.

    Or might aswell sent a letter to santa :D
  • idk
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    Zer0_CooL wrote: »
    You should contact ZOS by a ticket.

    Or might aswell sent a letter to santa :D

    Does that work?
  • Xarc
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    Normal :
    Eu server has many country who have primetime at the same time. That's not the case for US server.
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  • TheFM
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    Xarcus wrote: »
    Normal :
    Eu server has many country who have primetime at the same time. That's not the case for US server.

    I did the test at 3 am local time. No way was there too many online.
  • RefLiberty
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    TheFM wrote: »
    Obviously this isn't working as intended. You should contact ZOS by a ticket.
    I will, cuz this is just dumb.

    Are you aware that the issue can be with your ISP not the freaking ZOS datacenter. I'm not 20 min from there but my ping is great.

  • TheFM
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    RefLiberty wrote: »
    TheFM wrote: »
    Obviously this isn't working as intended. You should contact ZOS by a ticket.
    I will, cuz this is just dumb.

    Are you aware that the issue can be with your ISP not the freaking ZOS datacenter. I'm not 20 min from there but my ping is great.

    In every other game on EU servers it works flawlessly, and the fact that I have a great connection to the us servers also shows that it is on zos' end . They need to get their act together
  • JanTanhide
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    Not sure if this will help but long ago I remember ZOS posting somewhere here in the forum how to reset the pathway your login takes by deleting certain files.

    So here is what I remember about this: In the Zenimax Online folder find the Launcher folder. In the Launcher folder are "host.developer.log" files. It goes from host.developer.log to host.developer.0.log through host.developer.10.log.

    What I remember and I have done this a few times myself is to delete all the developer logs. If you don't want to delete them then move them to a protected folder.

    Once deleted then start the Launcher and it will create new developer logs as it finds the best Internet path to the server.

    This should find the quickest pathway to the server you are logging in to.

    Hope this helps.
  • Asardes
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    Even the IP packets are disgusted by the filthy EU-Server. Be grateful they don't go all the way to New Zealand and back

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  • Nemesis7884
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    TheFM wrote: »
    How am I able to get a better connection to the us server, when I live twenty minutes from the EU server? 170 ms to the American one, and 290 to the EU. Wtaf is going on?

    quantum entanglement?
  • TheFM
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    TheFM wrote: »
    How am I able to get a better connection to the us server, when I live twenty minutes from the EU server? 170 ms to the American one, and 290 to the EU. Wtaf is going on?

    quantum entanglement?

    Some serious pretzel pathing.

    I should trademark that term, lol
  • TheFM
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    Asardes wrote: »
    Even the IP packets are disgusted by the filthy EU-Server. Be grateful they don't go all the way to New Zealand and back

    3jci5b.jpg

    Like the connection is awesome until it hits Switzerland and the Netherlands, then it just goes nuts .
  • TheFM
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    Asardes wrote: »
    Even the IP packets are disgusted by the filthy EU-Server. Be grateful they don't go all the way to New Zealand and back

    3jci5b.jpg

    Like the connection is awesome until it hits Switzerland and the Netherlands, then it just goes nuts .
    JanTanhide wrote: »
    Not sure if this will help but long ago I remember ZOS posting somewhere here in the forum how to reset the pathway your login takes by deleting certain files.

    So here is what I remember about this: In the Zenimax Online folder find the Launcher folder. In the Launcher folder are "host.developer.log" files. It goes from host.developer.log to host.developer.0.log through host.developer.10.log.

    What I remember and I have done this a few times myself is to delete all the developer logs. If you don't want to delete them then move them to a protected folder.

    Once deleted then start the Launcher and it will create new developer logs as it finds the best Internet path to the server.

    This should find the quickest pathway to the server you are logging in to.

    Hope this helps.

    I will try this, thnx ,<3. I didn't notice this too much until now cuz I ran a dot based Stan ( lol ) sorc, but since that is no longer possible I moved to nag sorc, and ( I know it says nag, but it was too silly to change ) the lag is so much more noticeable when trying to time your burst
    Edited by TheFM on December 13, 2019 1:59PM
  • RefLiberty
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    What is the server IP anyway, never bothered to check, just asking.

    Edit:
    Never mind, found it on ESO help page:

    The ip address is 195.122.154.1 for EU and 198.20.198.110 for US.
    Edited by RefLiberty on December 13, 2019 2:31PM
  • RefLiberty
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    Edited by RefLiberty on December 13, 2019 2:41PM
  • ZonasArch
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    TheFM wrote: »
    How am I able to get a better connection to the us server, when I live twenty minutes from the EU server? 170 ms to the American one, and 290 to the EU. Wtaf is going on?

    Routing being stupid? I live in SA, and NA and EU até the same for me, because my routing to NA is absolutely stupid. You can trace that with a command easily found on Google if you're curious.
  • oxygen_thief
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    TheFM wrote: »
    It's getting ridiculous, the in game ping is flat out lying at this point, keeps telling me 50 ms which is complete and utter nonsense considering it takes a good half a second for my light attacks to even fire off. That's if they even fire, then u get these ppl that clearly aren't lagging and it'd be great to know how.


    its true. i was in battlegrounds last night and i noticed it too. my ping was around 80 but it felt like it was 2000. light attacks, abilities and bar swapping worked with huge delay.
  • Asardes
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    TheFM wrote: »
    Asardes wrote: »
    Even the IP packets are disgusted by the filthy EU-Server. Be grateful they don't go all the way to New Zealand and back

    3jci5b.jpg

    Like the connection is awesome until it hits Switzerland and the Netherlands, then it just goes nuts .

    I've noticed some Western European countries really have potato ISPs. Probably their backbone network is as bad as their user side.
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
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    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
    Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |

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  • TheFM
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    ZonasArch wrote: »
    TheFM wrote: »
    How am I able to get a better connection to the us server, when I live twenty minutes from the EU server? 170 ms to the American one, and 290 to the EU. Wtaf is going on?

    Routing being stupid? I live in SA, and NA and EU até the same for me, because my routing to NA is absolutely stupid. You can trace that with a command easily found on Google if you're curious.

    Yeah i did trace it, it goes through switzerland and goes AROUND germany and to the netherlands and then bounces BACK to frankfurt xD
  • TheFM
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    TheFM wrote: »
    It's getting ridiculous, the in game ping is flat out lying at this point, keeps telling me 50 ms which is complete and utter nonsense considering it takes a good half a second for my light attacks to even fire off. That's if they even fire, then u get these ppl that clearly aren't lagging and it'd be great to know how.


    its true. i was in battlegrounds last night and i noticed it too. my ping was around 80 but it felt like it was 2000. light attacks, abilities and bar swapping worked with huge delay.

    Its especially jarring on magicka toons because your timing gets thrown WAY off waiting for the ball to come out of teh stick xD
    Asardes wrote: »
    TheFM wrote: »
    Asardes wrote: »
    Even the IP packets are disgusted by the filthy EU-Server. Be grateful they don't go all the way to New Zealand and back

    3jci5b.jpg

    Like the connection is awesome until it hits Switzerland and the Netherlands, then it just goes nuts .

    I've noticed some Western European countries really have potato ISPs. Probably their backbone network is as bad as their user side.

    its like the perfect metaphor for service nowadays. Instead of a straight line, just goes around in circles xD
    Edited by TheFM on December 13, 2019 5:19PM
  • Siohwenoeht
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    Asardes wrote: »
    Even the IP packets are disgusted by the filthy EU-Server. Be grateful they don't go all the way to New Zealand and back

    3jci5b.jpg

    Lol this. I've seen trace routes for EU that go from London to Brussels, then Boston US, then Frankfurt, back to Brussels before returning to London. And Akamai is always the extra pond hops.
    "It is a lovely language, but it takes a very long time saying anything in it, because we do not say anything in it, unless it is worth taking a long time to say, and to listen to." - Treebeard
  • TheFM
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    Asardes wrote: »
    Even the IP packets are disgusted by the filthy EU-Server. Be grateful they don't go all the way to New Zealand and back

    3jci5b.jpg

    Lol this. I've seen trace routes for EU that go from London to Brussels, then Boston US, then Frankfurt, back to Brussels before returning to London. And Akamai is always the extra pond hops.

    I did what was recommended earlier to delete the developer logs, worked pretty well so far =)
  • ZonasArch
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    TheFM wrote: »
    ZonasArch wrote: »
    TheFM wrote: »
    How am I able to get a better connection to the us server, when I live twenty minutes from the EU server? 170 ms to the American one, and 290 to the EU. Wtaf is going on?

    Routing being stupid? I live in SA, and NA and EU até the same for me, because my routing to NA is absolutely stupid. You can trace that with a command easily found on Google if you're curious.

    Yeah i did trace it, it goes through switzerland and goes AROUND germany and to the netherlands and then bounces BACK to frankfurt xD

    #smart
  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    Maybe there is a potrtal connecting your roof to the room the na server is in

    This is a valid theory
  • pdblake
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    idk wrote: »
    Zer0_CooL wrote: »
    You should contact ZOS by a ticket.

    Or might aswell sent a letter to santa :D

    Does that work?

    Youll get a faster reply
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