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What's the deal with the weekly trial? (vss)

AgaTheGreat
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Elsweyr came out in May yet Sunspire has never been the weekly trial.
It's been more than half a year since that patch. Don't you think people are ready to compete in the weekly leaderboard in it?

We had (multiple times) vAA or v Dragonstar two weeks in a row.

It seems to me that there's no logical method in choosing what the weekly is. At least on PS4 EU.

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Edited by AgaTheGreat on December 9, 2019 12:36PM
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  • Krawallbambi
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    :D oh thats right ... I just never noticed it because I hated Sunspire :|
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  • redlink1979
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    Every trial should have a weekly reward, I agree.
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  • GusTheWizard
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    It was the weekly 3 or 4 weeks ago(Xbox NA)
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  • AWinterWolf
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    That may be because there are still some bug problems that have yet to be addressed. (Hiding behind the statues and the whole group still wiping) (the constant lag I and a few others experience in it.) to name a few.
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  • Raisin
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    I distinctly remember it being weekly trial before. o.o But now that you say it I feel unsure.
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  • siddique
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    It was last week's weekly on PS4.
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  • AgaTheGreat
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    siddique wrote: »
    It was last week's weekly on PS4.

    No, last week on PS4 EU was vAA. Sunspire has never been the weekly on PS4 EU. Ever.
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  • code65536
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    It's random. And it's different for each platform/region. It's been the weekly multiple times on PC/EU and PC/NA.

    "But it's been half a year!", you say. So what?

    There are 10 different trials that can be the weekly (3x Crag, 3x full DLC, 2x mini DLC, 2x 4-person arenas). It's been 27 weeks since Update 22 hit console. What are the chances that a specific trial out of a pool of 10 trials never come up after 27 weeks? Answer: 5.8% Sunspire specifically never coming up is improbable. But far from impossible.

    And what are the chances that, after 27 weeks, there is some trial (not necessarily Sunspire) that never appears in the rotation? Answer: 45% So you've pretty much got a coin-toss chance that there will be something that, after 27 weeks, wouldn't have appeared. In other words, what happening is here completely normal.

    Change the words around and imagine someone saying, "27 runs, and I still don't have a vMA inferno! And I just got ice staves two runs in a row!" And then someone else comes by and says, "Haha, I just got two infernos in a row within my first 10 runs!" Well, this is no different than that.

    TL;DR: It's just a roll of the dice. Now, you could argue that random selection isn't the best way to go about selecting the weekly. And I would be inclined to agree with that. But given the current system of random selection, what you see is perfectly normal.


    Edited: For clarification and to include calculations, as shown below:
    • Probability of a specific trial out of 10 possibilities not appearing in 27 chances: (1-0.1)^27 = 0.058
    • Probability of any trial out of 10 possibilities not appearing in 27 chances: 1-((1-(1-0.1)^27)^10) = 0.45
    Edited by code65536 on December 9, 2019 7:30PM
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  • tmbrinks
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    code65536 wrote: »
    It's random. And it's different for each platform/region. It's been the weekly multiple times on PC/EU and PC/NA.

    "But it's been half a year!", you say. So what?

    There are 10 different trials that can be the weekly (3x Crag, 3x full DLC, 2x mini DLC, 2x 4-person arenas). It's been 27 weeks since Update 22 hit console. What are the chances of a trial out of a pool of 10 trials never come up after 27 weeks? 5.8% Sunspire never coming up is improbable. But far from impossible.

    How many times have you heard someone say, "27 runs, and I still don't have a vMA inferno! And I just got ice staves two runs in a row!" And then someone else comes by and says, "Haha, I just got two infernos in a row within my first 10 runs!" Well, this is no different than that.

    It's just a roll of the dice. Now, you could argue that random selection isn't the best way to go about selecting the weekly. And I would be inclined to agree with that. But given the current system of random selection, what you see is perfectly normal.

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  • siddique
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    siddique wrote: »
    It was last week's weekly on PS4.

    No, last week on PS4 EU was vAA. Sunspire has never been the weekly on PS4 EU. Ever.

    Yes, it was. On PS4 NA. This week is AA, last week was BRP prior to that was Sunspire. I got a freaking gold Lokke helmet out of the leaderboard too.
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    siddique wrote: »
    siddique wrote: »
    It was last week's weekly on PS4.

    No, last week on PS4 EU was vAA. Sunspire has never been the weekly on PS4 EU. Ever.

    Yes, it was. On PS4 NA. This week is AA, last week was BRP prior to that was Sunspire. I got a freaking gold Lokke helmet out of the leaderboard too.

    The random selection of the weekly is done indepedently for every platform and region. There are potentially 6 different trials picked for the weekly for any given week for the 6 different megaservers.
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  • UntilValhalla13
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    We're also slower getting the new content for weeklies/dailies on console; like 2 months later slow. Literally. The week before last was the first time that I ever recall vss for PS4 NA. Like, the whole server was waiting for it forever.
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