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swapping from console to pc.

aaron_campion
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so ive been playing eso since it launched on xbox. Im at champion points 600 and ive got 8 characters at champion rank. Ive unlocked alot of pets etc. ive also been paying eso+ since the launch.

my question is, is it worth losing all of my progress and 1000s of hours on the game to get it on pc. I never had a decent pc when the game launched but now ive got a good pc that can run the game.

whats the pros for switching to pc.

thanks for any help
  • Iskiab
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    Pros: addons
    Negatives: no mount speed, no CPs. no traits researched
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  • Gythral
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    Cons PC/EU...
    with PC/NA getting close behind for not working as it should much of the time!
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  • ArchMikem
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    You're gonna start from complete scratch, zero, nada. The PC players also report much more instability than Console. Expect a ton of crashing.

    For Pros, basically addons and a prettier image. Thats it.
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  • CiliPadi
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    Yes, only pros is the addons, otherwise, same crappy performance.
  • Alienoutlaw
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    when i switched i sent them an email asking if there was anything they could do for me as i was not returning to Xbox, they replied with a very nice "care package" any race any alliance, mountains of xp scrolls ect ect, not saying they will do the same but its always worth an ask
  • Aisleyne
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    I also switched from console to PC. It's a little jarring going from being well set up to starting with nothing again, but in my opinion it's worth it.

    Pros: less crashing/loading screen freezes, faster loading screens, addons
    Cons: starting over, losing collections/purchases

    If I'm honest, I understand why characters aren't transferable, but I think it's stupid that your purchases don't carry over. Having to replace things is my only real regret, especially since half of them aren't available anymore. As far as in game progress goes, I've found that it's been much faster to catch myself back up than it was to do the same on console. It's shocking how much faster loading screens are. When you think of how often you encounter them, saving three minutes every time really adds up. Besides that, the added help and convenience of addons will save you a lot of time in addition to making QoL better.

    When I was having trouble deciding, I bought the base game for $10 and tried out the test server. You can create a template character with similar cp and unlimited resources to test out how the differences feel to you. Even if you decide not to switch, I think the money is well worth it to be able to preview items/content and test builds freely.
  • WiseSky
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    Make the Switch!
    You will save around 50 % more time just on writs!
    You will have more amazing addons !
    And you wont be called a Peasant no more!
  • method__01
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    to get a taste,just switch to EU (or US) server,create a new toon and start play
    all you got ( assistances,weapons etc) except eso+ will be unavailable
    play some days before you decide
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  • Deathlord92
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    Well you get addons which is nice as for the performance from what pc players have been saying it’s no better so imo kinda of a waste of time and money.
  • mikemacon
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    I play on both xbox and pc. Started on xbox. When i started again on pc about a year ago, it was actually quite fun; the first time i leveled a primary toon i had no idea what was going on. The second round through, this time on pc, went a lot smoother.

    Pros for PC: addons.
    Cons for PC: addons (master merchant, i'm looking at you.

    My main jam will continue to be xbox, though. It's where I have all my stuff and achievements and whatnot.

    But it's fun to jump on PC periodically and play around with things I can't really touch on console (like FPS, graphics quality, UI tweaking, etc. - oh, and PTS).

    Basically, the big question for me is always, "where do the majority of your friends play?" Given that this is an inherently social game, that's the number one key "pro" or "con".

    YMMV.
  • Huyen
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    when i switched i sent them an email asking if there was anything they could do for me as i was not returning to Xbox, they replied with a very nice "care package" any race any alliance, mountains of xp scrolls ect ect, not saying they will do the same but its always worth an ask

    I didnt get those. All I get was a lazy message stating I had to start over, rebuy everything etc.
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    Huyen Swiftpaw, dragonknight (no defined role yet)

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  • Donny_Vito
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    WiseSky wrote: »
    Make the Switch!
    You will save around 50 % more time just on writs!
    You will have more amazing addons !
    And you wont be called a Peasant no more!

    Lol!
  • Davadin
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    You're gonna start from complete scratch, zero, nada. The PC players also report much more instability than Console. Expect a ton of crashing.

    what?

    i thought its more console issue.

    im on PC and i dont crash.
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  • Donny_Vito
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    Davadin wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    You're gonna start from complete scratch, zero, nada. The PC players also report much more instability than Console. Expect a ton of crashing.

    what?

    i thought its more console issue.

    im on PC and i dont crash.

    I don't think it's limited to just one console/server. The amount of PC/EU threads I have seen the past month about server crashes, log-in queues, etc... is extremely high. And then recently it's been the PS4 blue-screens and freezing. I think the server issues are affecting a lot of the player-base, regardless of server or platform.
    Edited by Donny_Vito on December 5, 2019 8:54PM
  • GhostofDatthaw
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    That's like asking if you should get punched in the face, or punched in the face
  • Toon_Raider
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    I started on PS4 N/A when the game launched.
    I live in Africa so the ping is high but i play during the night so it was better to be on N/A.

    I had completed 93% of all achievements on my main and had 5 houses i bought with crowns.
    I am CP 1180, had over 40 mounts and have 14 characters playing both PVE and PVP.
    I spent a lot of real money on the account in the last 5 years.

    When my internet in the hotel i live in was reduced, i experienced extreme lag, numerous, crashes, blue screens and extremely long load-screens which forced me to quit the game.

    I decided to see what is going on in PC land to see if it is better.

    So with the same internet connection with latency at 276 constantly i changed to PC N/A.
    The first thing i noticed was the rendering of people in crowded areas was 10 x times faster.
    Long load-screens was a thing of the past. Yes you still get them in Cyro but Cyro is always a problem.

    I maybe wrong, but I think being on PS4 adds an extra path for your network to go through as all data thirst goes through the PS4 servers then to ZOS servers.

    Lag is still there but manageable in PVE. Will have to see about next year's improvements to see if PVP is better.


    In the first 2 months on PC i was constantly debating my change and went back to PS4.
    The difference in the poor performance on PS4 and not having add-ons again was astounding and not enjoyable.

    I made a serious decision and left PS4 behind 4 ever. Now another 4 months later i already have 2 characters almost finished with 9 trait research due to add-on advantages.

    When I started on PC it was very frustrating to start with nothing and being so used to everything i had on PS4.
    But since i already learned from my past mistakes and how to make new characters, crafting etc. it was fast to progress.

    You also have to to take into account that a lot of QoL changes has come into the game since launch so it is much, much easier to level.

    In conclusion, it is the best decision i have made. Starting from scratch sucks but i enjoy the game like i did in the beginning, redoing all the quests and experiencing this magnificent game with all it is problems like a long lost friend.
  • huntgod_ESO
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    Aisleyne wrote: »
    If I'm honest, I understand why characters aren't transferable, but I think it's stupid that your purchases don't carry over. Having to replace things is my only real regret, especially since half of them aren't available anymore.

    One of the reasons Microsoft and Sony allow games on to their platform is that they receive revenue sharing, so when you purchase items there, they get a chunk of it. So if you wanted items and purchases to transfer someone has to compensate the platform you are moving to.

    If you move PC to XB1 or PS4, Zeni would have to pay them whatever percentage they normally get to duplicate your purchases. Swapping from console to PC, Zeni would effectively be paying themselves, as they only received a portion of whatever you paid for those items on console and neither Sony or MS is going to give them money to offset duplicating those purchases on the PC platform.

    It would be a much less frustrating issue if Zenimax hadn't monetized so many aspects of this game.

    Edited by huntgod_ESO on December 5, 2019 11:30PM
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  • SRTtoZ
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    I mean you can always go back to Xbox. I have all 3 platforms and hope some day they implement cross save/platform like Destiny 2 so you can choose which account to use at any time.

    I started on PC, and enjoyed it quite a bit. The addons are game changers, especially the stuff that tracks lorebooks and skyshards but I always enjoyed the sit back and relax on a 4k screen part of the console experience. I also noticed that even with my i7 3820 and 1070 8gb video card the framerate still drops SUB 30 in busy areas. That made me have zero issue switching to console 30fps since the variation on PC still happens. I switched to PS4 Pro afterwards and thought it looked better than PC but always hated how you have to choose between 4k/low settings or 1080p/high settings. The water looks so bad in 4k mode. When I bought an Xbox One X I saw all the collectors editions on sale for $27 so I bit the bullet and the game by far looks better than PC/PS4 Pro because in 4k mode everything is on high. The issue is framerate. I'm gonna stick with the X and hopefully later next year when the new consoles come out we can get 4k/60 fps.

    Anyway just choose what you want and stick with it. You can always go back to your previous platforms.

    Also the best looking in my opinion is Xbox One X, then PS4 Pro, followed by PC, but on the flip side the best performing is PC, followed by PS4 Pro, and then Xbox One X. So pick your poison.

    Edit: I should also note that if you have the Elite controller it gives Xbox a huge advantage over your Pro. With the Elite you can use a back paddle to switch weapons where on PS4 you have to use the left dpad which is quite annoying.
    Edited by SRTtoZ on December 6, 2019 12:05AM
  • Anotherone773
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    You're gonna start from complete scratch, zero, nada. The PC players also report much more instability than Console. Expect a ton of crashing.

    For Pros, basically addons and a prettier image. Thats it.
    Do you read these forums? PS4 players start 5 threads a day about how bad the game runs on console. PC players might start 5 threads a month. The game works far better on PC than on console unless you got a potato PC.

  • Aurielle
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    You're gonna start from complete scratch, zero, nada. The PC players also report much more instability than Console. Expect a ton of crashing.

    For Pros, basically addons and a prettier image. Thats it.
    Do you read these forums?

    Do YOU?

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/498360/r-i-p-pc-eu/p1

    60 pages worth of stability related complaints, and that’s just one thread.
  • Kingslayer513
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    Aurielle wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    You're gonna start from complete scratch, zero, nada. The PC players also report much more instability than Console. Expect a ton of crashing.

    For Pros, basically addons and a prettier image. Thats it.
    Do you read these forums?

    Do YOU?

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/498360/r-i-p-pc-eu/p1

    60 pages worth of stability related complaints, and that’s just one thread.

    Honestly it really comes down to if OP is NA or EU, because the difference is night and day
  • Kingslayer513
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    Aisleyne wrote: »
    If I'm honest, I understand why characters aren't transferable, but I think it's stupid that your purchases don't carry over. Having to replace things is my only real regret, especially since half of them aren't available anymore.

    One of the reasons Microsoft and Sony allow games on to their platform is that they receive revenue sharing, so when you purchase items there, they get a chunk of it. So if you wanted items and purchases to transfer someone has to compensate the platform you are moving to.

    If you move PC to XB1 or PS4, Zeni would have to pay them whatever percentage they normally get to duplicate your purchases. Swapping from console to PC, Zeni would effectively be paying themselves, as they only received a portion of whatever you paid for those items on console and neither Sony or MS is going to give them money to offset duplicating those purchases on the PC platform.

    It would be a much less frustrating issue if Zenimax hadn't monetized so many aspects of this game.

    Moving to PC shouldn't cause any issues at all, it's just ZOS and no third party. It's literally just item codes they'd have to copy over, I chalk it up to pure laziness.
  • Anotherone773
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    Do YOU?

    You are comparing two totally different problems. PC-EU is because, in a nutshell, they basically hit server cap and its craps out. And of course there will be 60 pages if an entire server goes down. Either fewer people need to log in such as not during an event or ZOS needs to upgrade server cap.

    Consoles have FAR FAR FAR more problems because they can barely handle the game. While some of this can be fixed by ZOS, the lack of proper hardware by the user contributes significantly to the problem.

    Furthermore, i think a big part of the PC EU problem was because of the activity finder and the amount of people, which is why the disabled it and are now trying to fix it. The fix for console is to buy a pc or quest until ZOS figures out a way to make it work, or play the "Crashed System, Player Offline" minigame.
  • NeillMcAttack
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    I moved from PS4 EU to PC EU around 5 months ago. I had all assistants, a notable home, all the boxes, millions in gold, 10 max level toons, trial and arena sets, etc.
    No regrets, it is a far superior game on PC, better communities, more players in general really, and regardless of what people say, performance is infinitely better.

    You won’t look back.
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  • redlink1979
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    WiseSky wrote: »
    Make the Switch!
    You will save around 50 % more time just on writs!
    You will have more amazing addons !
    And you wont be called a Peasant no more!

    You will be called beta-tester LOL
    Edited by redlink1979 on December 6, 2019 10:46AM
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  • Aurielle
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    Do YOU?

    You are comparing two totally different problems. PC-EU is because, in a nutshell, they basically hit server cap and its craps out. And of course there will be 60 pages if an entire server goes down. Either fewer people need to log in such as not during an event or ZOS needs to upgrade server cap.

    Consoles have FAR FAR FAR more problems because they can barely handle the game. While some of this can be fixed by ZOS, the lack of proper hardware by the user contributes significantly to the problem.

    Furthermore, i think a big part of the PC EU problem was because of the activity finder and the amount of people, which is why the disabled it and are now trying to fix it. The fix for console is to buy a pc or quest until ZOS figures out a way to make it work, or play the "Crashed System, Player Offline" minigame.

    The game no longer runs well on console as of a few patches ago, @Anotherone773 . The game was running with few issues until very recently. How do you know that console’s problems aren’t ALSO related to nearing/exceeding server population limits? PC EU doesn’t just get a free pass from your criticisms because it’s PC. Also, in that thread, people aren’t just complaining about log in issues; they’re complaining about severe lag, skills not firing, whole groups freezing, full groups crashing...essentially, what we’re dealing with right now on console. Are you going to accuse PC EU users with high end systems who experienced what we’re experiencing of “hardware issues”?
    Edited by Aurielle on December 6, 2019 12:33PM
  • Anotherone773
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    @Aurielle
    The game no longer runs well on console as of a few patches ago, @Anotherone773 . The game was running with few issues until very recently.
    Not true, unless your few equals last 30 or 40 updates. PS4 has problems with pretty much every single content patch. Its becoming more prevalent as ESO requires better and better software to run which is 100% normal for a healthy MMO. PS4 is simply outdated. Xbox fairs a little better.
    How do you know that console’s problems aren’t ALSO related to nearing/exceeding server population limits? PC EU doesn’t just get a free pass from your criticisms because it’s PC
    The same way i know that a broken bone isnt the flu.
    Also, in that thread, people aren’t just complaining about log in issues; they’re complaining about severe lag, skills not firing, whole groups freezing, full groups crashing...essentially, what we’re dealing with right now on console.

    Im not going to give an education class on how computers work for the 50th time this week. Server side issues have a very specific set of symptoms, client side issues have a very specific set of symptoms. Im not going to go through every symptom with every hardware configuration and explain why it is or isnt server side. But consider this, ZOS admitted the problem players had on ESO as a large group were server side. They are working on the console side and that has to do with client and the hardware not being able to handle the game. So they will have to "fix" the game by trying to find a workaround for the hardware limitations.
    Are you going to accuse PC EU users with high end systems who experienced what we’re experiencing of “hardware issues”?
    I dont get what your getting at it. PC EU was a server side problem. There will be people on PC EU that have potato PCs and the game runs badly and they will have posted in that thread but it was server side for a large majority of them.

    The forums will tell you that when PC users have a problem as a large group its because of server issue, when console players have problems as a group its because they play on a budget system not built for an MMO and definitely not one of this scope.
  • TequilaFire
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    Your trolling has become meme, so no one cares. lol
  • Donny_Vito
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    Yeah you're going to experience about the same performance on any server right now. EU-specific servers seem to be outliers as they are exceptionally worse, but for the most part from PC to console is about the same performance-wise. But QoL is better on PC due to add-ons that will save you time.
  • mairwen85
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    Pc performance trumps console in my experience. I swapped back to the pc from xbox in March, already above 900cp and almost all achievements caught up. Weaving is so much easier... The input lag on console imo is the equivalent of dragonball gravity training. The game is just that much smoother and less choppy. Then the addons, as long as you don't go mad with them. Customising the ui, and of course combat metrics. Haven't looked back to be honest.
    Edited by mairwen85 on December 6, 2019 4:01PM
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