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Why is pvp unplayable?

kenjiblaster25
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Im an hour into constant disconnects. Can’t play. Can’t use abilities. Can’t heal.

Is this how pvp now is?

Am I the only one?

[Minor title edit.]
Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on December 4, 2019 8:39PM
Kenjil

Never Behind Guild - PvE & PvP & Trade & Trials & Friendship & Great laughs
Guild Motto - leave no one behind, stay on the crown, kill the greens
Ebonheart Pact
  • dcam86b14_ESO
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    I've had no issues in pvp aside from a few lag spikes.
    Played solid 3 hours in kal as a healer yesterday.
    I'm pc NA.
  • kenjiblaster25
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    Today
    Kenjil

    Never Behind Guild - PvE & PvP & Trade & Trials & Friendship & Great laughs
    Guild Motto - leave no one behind, stay on the crown, kill the greens
    Ebonheart Pact
  • RedGirl41
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    https://youtu.be/xZ46xn_6Pfg Me last night in every single fight we encountered. Ps4 NA is wicked trash right now
  • Kelces
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    Actually it's a classic. :lol:

    It doesn't happen always, but a lot depending on the time.
    All hail the anti-cheat software!
    Edited by Kelces on December 4, 2019 8:28PM
    You reveal yourself best in how you play.

    Kelces - Argonian Templar
    Farel Donvu - Dark Elf Sorcerer
    Navam Llervu - Dark Elf Dragonknight
    Aniseth - Wood Elf Warden
    Therediel - Wood Elf Templar
    Nilonwy - Wood Elf Nightblade
    Jurupari - Argonian Warden
    Kú-Chulainn - Argonian Sorcerer
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  • kenjiblaster25
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    RedGirl - it’s worse than useless - I feel like I’m playing a Zx81.

    It’s shocking how poor and inept it is. I love this game and feel, like hundreds more, like quitting because nothing works
    Kenjil

    Never Behind Guild - PvE & PvP & Trade & Trials & Friendship & Great laughs
    Guild Motto - leave no one behind, stay on the crown, kill the greens
    Ebonheart Pact
  • Kalik_Gold
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    Main Character:
    Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige

    PvP Pure-class:
    Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
    Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
    Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
    Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
    Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer

    PvP: Subclassed or Specialty
    Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer (Tank)
    Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer (Healer)
    Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade (Bomber)
    Two-Big-Horns an Argonian Arcanist /Sorcerer
    Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden (Ice-Theme)

    PvE:
    Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
    Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar (Healer)
    Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Redguard** Dragonknight (Raid Damage) --- Name change needed

    PvE: Specialty
    Tyrus Septim an Imperial Sorcerer (Dungeon Damage)
    Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden (Arenas)
    Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade (Thief)

    Leveling...
    Styx of Akatosh a Goblin*** Arcanist --- Race change needed
    Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Lycan Sorcerer
    Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
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    Passives of another race used:
    *Breton
    **Imperial
    ***Argonian




    __________________________Backstories:_________________________

    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

    Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

    Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

    Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

    Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

    The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

    Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

    After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

    After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

    Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

    Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

    {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
    PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant
  • jadarock
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    Im an hour into constant disconnects. Can’t play. Can’t use abilities. Can’t heal.

    Is this how pvp now is?

    Am I the only one?

    No it's not just you performance is horrible
  • kenjiblaster25
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    It just doesn’t work. Hey ESO, any chance you can get the product we pay for to work this year? Or next?
    Kenjil

    Never Behind Guild - PvE & PvP & Trade & Trials & Friendship & Great laughs
    Guild Motto - leave no one behind, stay on the crown, kill the greens
    Ebonheart Pact
  • Mr_Walker
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    It just doesn’t work. Hey ESO, any chance you can get the product we pay for to work this year? Or next?

    Did you see all the new goodies in the crown store?
  • kenjiblaster25
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    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    It just doesn’t work. Hey ESO, any chance you can get the product we pay for to work this year? Or next?

    Did you see all the new goodies in the crown store?

    You’ve probably hit the nail on the head

    Kenjil

    Never Behind Guild - PvE & PvP & Trade & Trials & Friendship & Great laughs
    Guild Motto - leave no one behind, stay on the crown, kill the greens
    Ebonheart Pact
  • Aznarb
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    I've played a lot on cyro these last weeks to farm alliance line.
    I've played from early evening to night w/o break.

    I'm still looking for all these "bug", "lag", people speak about all the time.
    For me, it's more from their side about PC spec, optimisation and so on.

    Even in massive 2zerg vs 2zerg 4 day ago in 30d cp campaign I haven't dropped under 23 FPS we everything maxed..
    And I got only a gtx 1070, so...

    The only stupid thing I've see is all these tank-dps build every where making PvP in this game the most boring ting I've ever seen.

    [ PC EU ]

    [ Khuram-dar ]
    [ Khajiit ]
    [ Templar - Healer ]
    [Crazy Gatherer & Compulsive Thief]

  • WoppaBoem
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    Hi Kenji, Just wanted to do the same mate.

    Xbox EU seen as the least populated server its broken. Dragonsomething Patch was bad. Then they did 2 maintenances and they made it WORSE. I am really worried now our usual group friend not logging as it unplayable. FFS.
    Edited by WoppaBoem on December 5, 2019 8:54AM
    Xbox EU & NA - PVP Only
  • Grianasteri
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    Im an hour into constant disconnects. Can’t play. Can’t use abilities. Can’t heal.

    Is this how pvp now is?

    Am I the only one?

    [Minor title edit.]

    Its perfectly playable to me.

    As is often the case with bugs n glitches, this seems to only be affecting some people. I did hear a few folk in one of my guilds talking about experiencing similar issues.
  • kenjiblaster25
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    WoppaBoem wrote: »
    Hi Kenji, Just wanted to do the same mate.

    Xbox EU seen as the least populated server its broken. Dragonsomething Patch was bad. Then they did 2 maintenances and they made it WORSE. I am really worried now our usual group friend not logging as it unplayable. FFS.

    You were running Marsh last night I guess - so you know the scale of the DC zergs. Every time I went near a battle, gone. Every 5 min for over an hour. I can only assume either they can’t fix it, they can run it on the cheap servers they’ve borrowed from Minecraft or they just don’t care and only want our cash.
    Kenjil

    Never Behind Guild - PvE & PvP & Trade & Trials & Friendship & Great laughs
    Guild Motto - leave no one behind, stay on the crown, kill the greens
    Ebonheart Pact
  • kenjiblaster25
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    Im an hour into constant disconnects. Can’t play. Can’t use abilities. Can’t heal.

    Is this how pvp now is?

    Am I the only one?

    [Minor title edit.]

    Its perfectly playable to me.

    As is often the case with bugs n glitches, this seems to only be affecting some people. I did hear a few folk in one of my guilds talking about experiencing similar issues.


    It certainly impacts some. Sometimes though that some is a whole group taking or defending a keep. It’s laughable
    Kenjil

    Never Behind Guild - PvE & PvP & Trade & Trials & Friendship & Great laughs
    Guild Motto - leave no one behind, stay on the crown, kill the greens
    Ebonheart Pact
  • laksikus
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    Aznarb wrote: »
    I've played a lot on cyro these last weeks to farm alliance line.
    I've played from early evening to night w/o break.

    I'm still looking for all these "bug", "lag", people speak about all the time.
    For me, it's more from their side about PC spec, optimisation and so on.

    Even in massive 2zerg vs 2zerg 4 day ago in 30d cp campaign I haven't dropped under 23 FPS we everything maxed..
    And I got only a gtx 1070, so...

    The only stupid thing I've see is all these tank-dps build every where making PvP in this game the most boring ting I've ever seen.

    Its not about fps but ping and lags
  • Curious_Death
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    I love ppl saying ... umm i didnt had problems with X hardware in XvsX fight... bla bla ... like wanting to say u (snip) and i don't see problem !?

    I also gave up when my skills stop working or cant swap weapon in 1 vs X situations... and then u get teabag by ppl who dont seee problem... coz using 2 skills in X members group getting healed and carried by others...

    (edited for content)
    Edited by ZOS_FalcoYamaoka on December 5, 2019 3:52PM
  • Aznarb
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    laksikus wrote: »
    Aznarb wrote: »
    I've played a lot on cyro these last weeks to farm alliance line.
    I've played from early evening to night w/o break.

    I'm still looking for all these "bug", "lag", people speak about all the time.
    For me, it's more from their side about PC spec, optimisation and so on.

    Even in massive 2zerg vs 2zerg 4 day ago in 30d cp campaign I haven't dropped under 23 FPS we everything maxed..
    And I got only a gtx 1070, so...

    The only stupid thing I've see is all these tank-dps build every where making PvP in this game the most boring ting I've ever seen.

    Its not about fps but ping and lags

    And it's the same answer, no problem, got the same ping in pvp or pve around 80-100 at max.
    I don't have fiber either.

    So maybe contact your internet saler to get improvement ?
    Or maybe you'r to far from EU or Na server and it's still not a game problem since they was released for EU and NA.

    If it was a game problem, everyone should experience it, like when we got insane load screen/kick at SE release for exemple.
    If it's not general that mean the problem come from other thing.

    another exemple, I got FPS issue with everything to max before the SE release and his performance patch.
    It was from my side, cuz game hasn't be developed to support new ryzen proc.
    They finaly did it and I'm glad but I didn't complain about it once I understand the problem.

    And don't forget about add-on, to many people use them when they don't know anything about how they are made and I can told you than a big part of them are badly made and cause issue and conflict that why I've stop using most of them especialy combat add-on.

    I started game with many problem as people experienced here and now everything is fixed.
    I'm not an informaticien or someone who know about it.
    But like everyone I've Internet acces so I've do research by myself, ask on specialized forum to give me advice and help and little by little my game was better.
    Now I ran with all maxed video setting now.

    And ofc, some ppl run to low Pc spec ( a good pc come with a price, so not all can afford it I know, but then don't play this kind of game who is fps killing)

    I'm not blaming ZoS or players, but most of the reported issue are not true issue from the game.
    [ PC EU ]

    [ Khuram-dar ]
    [ Khajiit ]
    [ Templar - Healer ]
    [Crazy Gatherer & Compulsive Thief]

  • WoppaBoem
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    @kenjiblaster25 Yesterday we attacked chal, before we started sieging we all got into a loading screen, half of group crashed, the other half was killed by AD. It was bad not seen it this bad before.
    Xbox EU & NA - PVP Only
  • GhostofDatthaw
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    Im an hour into constant disconnects. Can’t play. Can’t use abilities. Can’t heal.

    Is this how pvp now is?

    Am I the only one?

    [Minor title edit.]

    Are you the only one????? What rock have you been under?
  • faeeichenlaub
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    Was in Kaal xboxNA last night 9-10pm ran smooth. No crash or freeze.
    "Azura give me strength, Let my voice change the world as long as I am in it."
  • Mayrael
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    Ok I think some things should be cleared out.

    People tend to blame ZOS for every single game failure they experience but:

    - FPS and crashes. some of the issues such as FPS drops, memmory issues and in general client side issues, can be solved on our side (I don't claim game is well optimised but it can be adjusted). I've spent a lot of time to tweak my UserSettings.ini, addons, GPU, CPU and system settings. I have also upgraded my PC a bit and can say my FPS in Cyrodiil never drops below 30 even in very very large and long battles. When it goes to crashes. These happend to me few times when I was on my laptop (which is literally flat potato) but almost never when I was on my PC - thus my conclussion - hardware matters.

    - Disconnects. I haven't been disconnected for a very long time (like months) when in Cyro (ofc excluding red banner PC EU time when SOME players had login issues :wink: ). We can't assume definetly that it's not ZOS fault that you have disconnects but when many people uses same service and they have different experiences usually the reason of such state lies on user side.


    The only common problem everyone have and as for now nobody could solve it on its own, thus its safe to assume its server side issue is latency. During prime time all our actions are very delayed. In game tool used to meassure ping is not even close to real delays we experience. Sometimes it shows ~300-400ms ping while in reallity we can see our skills land even 2-3s later (2000-3000ms! its almost 7 times bigger).
    Edited by Mayrael on December 5, 2019 1:21PM
    I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.
  • WoppaBoem
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    Mayrael wrote: »
    Ok I think some things should be cleared out.

    People tend to blame ZOS for every single game failure they experience but:

    - FPS and crashes. some of the issues such as FPS drops, memmory issues and in general client side issues, can be solved on our side (I don't claim game is well optimised but it can be adjusted). I've spent a lot of time to tweak my UserSettings.ini, addons, GPU, CPU and system settings. I have also upgraded my PC a bit and can say my FPS in Cyrodiil never drops below 30 even in very very large and long battles. When it goes to crashes. These happend to me few times when I was on my laptop (which is literally flat potato) but almost never when I was on my PC - thus my conclussion - hardware matters.

    - Disconnects. I haven't been disconnected for a very long time (like months) when in Cyro (ofc excluding red banner PC EU time when SOME players had login issues :wink: ). We can't assume definetly that it's not ZOS fault that you have disconnects but when many people uses same service and they have different experiences usually the reason of such state lies on user side.


    The only common problem everyone have and as for now nobody could solve it on its own, thus its safe to assume its server side issue is latency. During prime time all our actions are very delayed. In game tool used to meassure ping is not even close to real delays we experience. Sometimes it shows ~300-400ms ping while in reallity we can see our skills land even 2-3s later (2000-3000ms! its almost 7 times bigger).

    White Knight, I have a Xbox One X, No other game installed, ESO even on external SSD, direct fiber optic internet. Please but out its horrible at the moment.
    Xbox EU & NA - PVP Only
  • Davadin
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    playable here. one or two nights a week there are moments where the lag is ridicolous (1-3 sec delay on ur skills), especially when there's a hundred people, like on saturday night.

    otherwise, other than the occasional FPS dips, its perfectly playable.

    PC NA.


    in fact, the last couple of weeks seem to be better than during the summer... so maybe they actually did something with the performance...
    August Palatine Davadin Bloodstrake - Nord Dragon Knight - PC NA - Gray Host
    Greymoor 6.0.7 PvP : Medium 2H/SnB The Destroyer
    Dragonhold 5.2.11 PvE : Medium DW/2H The Blood Furnace
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  • Dojohoda
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    For me, when the game takes a proverbial dump, I check the memory. It's usually doubled or tripled from its starting point.

    So, I restart the entire game every hour or so. A friend of mine has to (also) reset the router.
    Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
    Might be joking in comments.
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  • LarsS
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    On pc quite a LOT of the lag can be due to your addons, especially such as trading and harvest addons.
    GM for The Daggerfall Authority EU PC
  • Aznarb
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    WoppaBoem wrote: »
    Mayrael wrote: »
    Ok I think some things should be cleared out.

    People tend to blame ZOS for every single game failure they experience but:

    - FPS and crashes. some of the issues such as FPS drops, memmory issues and in general client side issues, can be solved on our side (I don't claim game is well optimised but it can be adjusted). I've spent a lot of time to tweak my UserSettings.ini, addons, GPU, CPU and system settings. I have also upgraded my PC a bit and can say my FPS in Cyrodiil never drops below 30 even in very very large and long battles. When it goes to crashes. These happend to me few times when I was on my laptop (which is literally flat potato) but almost never when I was on my PC - thus my conclussion - hardware matters.

    - Disconnects. I haven't been disconnected for a very long time (like months) when in Cyro (ofc excluding red banner PC EU time when SOME players had login issues :wink: ). We can't assume definetly that it's not ZOS fault that you have disconnects but when many people uses same service and they have different experiences usually the reason of such state lies on user side.


    The only common problem everyone have and as for now nobody could solve it on its own, thus its safe to assume its server side issue is latency. During prime time all our actions are very delayed. In game tool used to meassure ping is not even close to real delays we experience. Sometimes it shows ~300-400ms ping while in reallity we can see our skills land even 2-3s later (2000-3000ms! its almost 7 times bigger).

    White Knight, I have a Xbox One X, No other game installed, ESO even on external SSD, direct fiber optic internet. Please but out its horrible at the moment.

    He obviously speak about PC user..
    We know how bad it is on console.
    But tbh I don't see how a game like this can run smooth on console..
    Also it has been proved many tme that SSD is close to worthless on this game.
    I was using it at the start, remove it from SSD to install it with pts on HD and notice no difference, never go back on SSD, waste of space.
    Edited by Aznarb on December 5, 2019 8:32PM
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  • Davadin
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    Aznarb wrote: »
    WoppaBoem wrote: »
    Mayrael wrote: »
    Ok I think some things should be cleared out.

    People tend to blame ZOS for every single game failure they experience but:

    - FPS and crashes. some of the issues such as FPS drops, memmory issues and in general client side issues, can be solved on our side (I don't claim game is well optimised but it can be adjusted). I've spent a lot of time to tweak my UserSettings.ini, addons, GPU, CPU and system settings. I have also upgraded my PC a bit and can say my FPS in Cyrodiil never drops below 30 even in very very large and long battles. When it goes to crashes. These happend to me few times when I was on my laptop (which is literally flat potato) but almost never when I was on my PC - thus my conclussion - hardware matters.

    - Disconnects. I haven't been disconnected for a very long time (like months) when in Cyro (ofc excluding red banner PC EU time when SOME players had login issues :wink: ). We can't assume definetly that it's not ZOS fault that you have disconnects but when many people uses same service and they have different experiences usually the reason of such state lies on user side.


    The only common problem everyone have and as for now nobody could solve it on its own, thus its safe to assume its server side issue is latency. During prime time all our actions are very delayed. In game tool used to meassure ping is not even close to real delays we experience. Sometimes it shows ~300-400ms ping while in reallity we can see our skills land even 2-3s later (2000-3000ms! its almost 7 times bigger).

    White Knight, I have a Xbox One X, No other game installed, ESO even on external SSD, direct fiber optic internet. Please but out its horrible at the moment.

    He obviously speak about PC user..
    We know how bad it is on console.
    But tbh I don't see how a game like this can run smooth on console..
    Also it has been proved many tme that SSD is close to worthless on this game.
    I was using it at the start, remove it from SSD to install it with pts on HD and notice no difference, never go back on SSD, waste of space.

    on my PC, SSD is a HUGE load improvements.

    like, getting into char screen is about the same, 30sec ~ 1m.
    but loading the world? thats like 30~1m on SSD vs 2-3 min on spinning drive.

    (im on SSD raid-0, its fast)

    if u dont see any improvements im guessing u got a big RAM to load the game?
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  • GhostofDatthaw
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    LarsS wrote: »
    On pc quite a LOT of the lag can be due to your addons, especially such as trading and harvest addons.

    A year ago I might have said this is true, but in the end I was running a buff tracker and inventory insight. It still lagged. It's the servers
  • Aznarb
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    Davadin wrote: »
    Aznarb wrote: »
    WoppaBoem wrote: »
    Mayrael wrote: »
    Ok I think some things should be cleared out.

    People tend to blame ZOS for every single game failure they experience but:

    - FPS and crashes. some of the issues such as FPS drops, memmory issues and in general client side issues, can be solved on our side (I don't claim game is well optimised but it can be adjusted). I've spent a lot of time to tweak my UserSettings.ini, addons, GPU, CPU and system settings. I have also upgraded my PC a bit and can say my FPS in Cyrodiil never drops below 30 even in very very large and long battles. When it goes to crashes. These happend to me few times when I was on my laptop (which is literally flat potato) but almost never when I was on my PC - thus my conclussion - hardware matters.

    - Disconnects. I haven't been disconnected for a very long time (like months) when in Cyro (ofc excluding red banner PC EU time when SOME players had login issues :wink: ). We can't assume definetly that it's not ZOS fault that you have disconnects but when many people uses same service and they have different experiences usually the reason of such state lies on user side.


    The only common problem everyone have and as for now nobody could solve it on its own, thus its safe to assume its server side issue is latency. During prime time all our actions are very delayed. In game tool used to meassure ping is not even close to real delays we experience. Sometimes it shows ~300-400ms ping while in reallity we can see our skills land even 2-3s later (2000-3000ms! its almost 7 times bigger).

    White Knight, I have a Xbox One X, No other game installed, ESO even on external SSD, direct fiber optic internet. Please but out its horrible at the moment.

    He obviously speak about PC user..
    We know how bad it is on console.
    But tbh I don't see how a game like this can run smooth on console..
    Also it has been proved many tme that SSD is close to worthless on this game.
    I was using it at the start, remove it from SSD to install it with pts on HD and notice no difference, never go back on SSD, waste of space.

    on my PC, SSD is a HUGE load improvements.

    like, getting into char screen is about the same, 30sec ~ 1m.
    but loading the world? thats like 30~1m on SSD vs 2-3 min on spinning drive.

    (im on SSD raid-0, its fast)

    if u dont see any improvements im guessing u got a big RAM to load the game?

    16GO RAM.
    30sec are my loadscreen when the game is a bit slow, I've close to no loading time when all go right.
    My SSD is a M2 but I don't use it anymore for the game cuz the improvement is not really noticeable even if it's a 2500mo/sec (samsung).
    And yeah ofc ram help a lot especially with a good frequency.
    So if you've low ram, ofc SSD will help, but tbh ram are way cheaper than SSD ^^
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