your eyes dont really see anything more than 60 fps

My new laptop with a 120Hz panel says otherwise, and that's coming from someone who's just experienced 60Hz until this new laptop. Haven't gotten into any games with it yet, but I can immediately see and feel a difference, with Windows and apps just being way smoother. Family, who aren't geeks at all, also noticed a difference.

hard capping your frame rate to 60 fps really helps with performance and ping

No, and no.

Regarding client performance, while I haven't played on a high refresh rate monitor (ie anything beyond 60Hz), I have played with uncapped FPS, and noticed no weirdness that usually comes from game engines not designed for uncapped FPS.

Regarding connection/server performance, ie ping, that's not how it works. Client and server, your computer and the connection/servers, are completely separate. All your client is doing regarding the connection/servers is just sending data, and listening for received data, that's it.

Once the data has been sent from the client and enters the actual network, it's completely separate to the client, and the client will not affect it. At that point, you're at the mercy of your internet connection including your ISP and any intermediate service providers between you and the servers, and of course the servers themselves.

At that point, the client literally just waits and listens for a response from the server, in which case it acts on the response, sends another packet of data, and the process repeats.

Imagine if you were having a conversation with another person. You're the client, the other dude's the server, and the air between you and the other dude is your connection to the other dude. In that conversation, all you're responsible for is "loading" your message "into" the air. Once it's in the air, it's the air's responsibility to "route" that message to the other dude, and then it's the other dude's responsibility to listen for that message. Vice versa, if he's talking to you -- he "loads" message "into" the air, the air "routes" that message to you, you listen for that message.

That's a super, super dumbed down explanation of what's going on. How fast you "load" your message "into" the air doesn't change how fast he receives it, because all you're doing is "loading" the message "into" the air.

an addon that helps more with performance is: Votan's Advanced Settings (pretty simple to use). I recommend you get it with your minion app (google it).

This will help with client performance, but not connection/server performance. Same with the next 4, so I'll skip them.

AmeenHania wrote: »

Ah..I have no problems in cyrodil now with massive zergs so it does. Like i said, you don't notice a difference because your eyes don't see higher than 60 fps. So capping your fps helps with lowering your ping so I would do it because dropping from higher frames to really low quickly can crash you or disconnect you or freeze you in Cyrodiil. So i don't know what you are talking about. I spent hours of fideling and this helps, no problems in cyrodill with massive zergs on my outdated motherboard, cpu ( my single core thread count is only 1500 or so, in the future i may double that if i want to spend more money to getting a single core thread count of 3000 or so), and ram. As a side note, most if not all mmos only utilize 1-4 cores in 2019.

Also 2019 high graphics games with 2080 RTX enabled drop your FPS to 30-60 and its still good. So above 60 fps, you don't notice a difference but improvement in ping.

You don't notice a difference probably because you're on a 60Hz monitor. Human eyes definitely see well beyond 60 FPS, if they didn't, why would 120Hz, 144Hz, 240Hz, and even faster monitors exist? If human eyes supposedly can't see beyond 60 FPS, then what's the need for faster monitors, if we couldn't tell the difference?

Again, I just bought a new laptop with a 120Hz monitor, my first high refresh rate monitor, and I noticed a big difference in just general usage alone. Mouse moves much smoother, windows scroll much smoother, animated app elements are much smoother.

AmeenHania wrote: »

jcm2606 wrote: »

AmeenHania wrote: »

Ah..I have no problems in cyrodil now with massive zergs so it does. Like i said, you don't notice a difference because your eyes don't see higher than 60 fps. So capping your fps helps with lowering your ping so I would do it because dropping from higher frames to really low quickly can crash you or disconnect you or freeze you in Cyrodiil. So i don't know what you are talking about. I spent hours of fideling and this helps, no problems in cyrodill with massive zergs on my outdated motherboard, cpu ( my single core thread count is only 1500 or so, in the future i may double that if i want to spend more money to getting a single core thread count of 3000 or so), and ram. As a side note, most if not all mmos only utilize 1-4 cores in 2019.

Also 2019 high graphics games with 2080 RTX enabled drop your FPS to 30-60 and its still good. So above 60 fps, you don't notice a difference but improvement in ping.

You don't notice a difference probably because you're on a 60Hz monitor. Human eyes definitely see well beyond 60 FPS, if they didn't, why would 120Hz, 144Hz, 240Hz, and even faster monitors exist? If human eyes supposedly can't see beyond 60 FPS, then what's the need for faster monitors, if we couldn't tell the difference?

Again, I just bought a new laptop with a 120Hz monitor, my first high refresh rate monitor, and I noticed a big difference in just general usage alone. Mouse moves much smoother, windows scroll much smoother, animated app elements are much smoother.

what im trying to say is that u will notice a slight difference in higher hz monitor but its not worth it in fps drop while gaming in ESO. I wouldnt consider it. I know a few people who switched back to 60hz because of FPS drops.

That's not how it works. Read my above comment to get an overview on what a bottleneck is and how it impacts perceived FPS.