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If you are still playing this game, are you excited...or afraid
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andreasv✭✭✭✭✭Maybe they hired too many a while ago and thought they could fix that by getting rid of most of them. Now they realised they actually need them and had to bring back those posts.
Sounds like a familiar cycle with this company, but who knows.0 -
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✭✭I've always felt ZOS needs to hire smarter people. While I'm hopeful someone finally got a clue, my bet is that this is just business as usual.0 -
Anotherone773✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭1) Working on ESO is considered a major positive to potential employees. Its an established game and part of a much loved franchise. From a career perspective, its a great learning experience and the chance to work on it will look great on a resume when going for other roles later in their career.
2) The company has over 350 people, people will be moving in and out all the time for various reasons.
3) Some of those employees might be working on the new projects and thus their old roles need to be filled
4) Some of the employees could have moved to other studios within zenimax media. Its not like ZOS is their only studio. Its quite common for employees to move between "divisions" under a corporate parent.
5) You wouldnt hire a bunch of new people for a new game. You would have a good mix.
6) In both the video game industry and corporate america, people move between jobs all the time. I believe they call it career advancement.
7) They have a 3.5 and 4.0 rating by (former) employees on indeed and glassdoor. 3.5 and above is pretty good. Most people will put a lot more effort into a bad review than they will a good one. Even the top companies on indeed are barely above a 4.
None of this is alarming. Its just another corporation doing normal corporate things.Edited by Anotherone773 on December 2, 2019 7:21PM3 -
Langdon64✭✭✭✭I'm afraid. I love this game. I have already gone whale on a couple of notable homes. I'm going to a a sad, little whale if they discontinue this game.
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✭✭✭✭✭GhostofDatthaw wrote: »ZOS is making a new MMO, I doubt any of the new hires are additional resources for ESO.
Again then why state it exactly like this "Hiring for ESO and other projects
If there was not a significant amount of eso spots open then why even state it, why not just say "hiring for new game"
Jesus it gets annoying saying the same thing.
and FYI this is the regular employment page.. https://jobs.zenimax.com/jobs .. shows many more positions open, so to say those are just all the opening at zos atm for other games is a laugh
You're staring at a group of words looking for hidden meaning. Theyre hiring positions for ESO and other Projects. ESO has grown and that means a bigger team. Other Projects means new games.Edited by ArchMikem on December 3, 2019 1:44AMCP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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This one need something stronger.scorpius2k1 wrote: »- Optimist -
More people are needed so they are expanding their existing team to support the growth to improve things, this is good news!
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So many people quit due to neglect and incompetence, the game is in danger and they need more people to replace them before it dies.
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The company is growing and has several projects.
I'm a mix of all 3 of those at this point
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.3 -
GhostofDatthaw✭✭✭✭✭GhostofDatthaw wrote: »ZOS is making a new MMO, I doubt any of the new hires are additional resources for ESO.
Again then why state it exactly like this "Hiring for ESO and other projects
If there was not a significant amount of eso spots open then why even state it, why not just say "hiring for new game"
Jesus it gets annoying saying the same thing.
and FYI this is the regular employment page.. https://jobs.zenimax.com/jobs .. shows many more positions open, so to say those are just all the opening at zos atm for other games is a laugh
You're staring at a group of words looking for hidden meaning. Theyre hiring positions for ESO and other Projects. ESO has grown and that means bigger a bigger team. Other Projects means new games.
Ok? And you're assuming...
Oh and ever heard of this popular saying? "read between the lines" been around a really long time, nothing new.
When I left because the servers are in horrible state and I see them hiring a lead server engineer for "elder scrolls and other games" thier words not mine. I tend to think a little deeper than "oh common personel move". Doesn't mean I say is a bad thing or a good thing.Edited by GhostofDatthaw on December 2, 2019 11:16PM0 -
nolangrady✭✭✭ZOS is making a new MMO, I doubt any of the new hires are additional resources for ESO.
If they were going to assign resources from their new IP to ESO, it would only be if the resource had completed their tasks already and had spare capacity, and in that scenario the studio would simply give them further work on the new IP.
ESO will unfortunately have to make do with the already scaled down lean resources that it has. Don’t expect anything different to what ZOS has shown us over the past few years.
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ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭GhostofDatthaw wrote: »GhostofDatthaw wrote: »ZOS is making a new MMO, I doubt any of the new hires are additional resources for ESO.
Again then why state it exactly like this "Hiring for ESO and other projects
If there was not a significant amount of eso spots open then why even state it, why not just say "hiring for new game"
Jesus it gets annoying saying the same thing.
and FYI this is the regular employment page.. https://jobs.zenimax.com/jobs .. shows many more positions open, so to say those are just all the opening at zos atm for other games is a laugh
You're staring at a group of words looking for hidden meaning. Theyre hiring positions for ESO and other Projects. ESO has grown and that means bigger a bigger team. Other Projects means new games.
Ok? And you're assuming...
Oh and ever heard of this popular saying? "read between the lines" been around a really long time, nothing new.
When I left because the servers are in horrible state and I see them hiring a lead server engineer for "elder scrolls and other games" thier words not mine. I tend to think a little deeper than "oh common personel move". Doesn't mean I say is a bad thing or a good thing.
I mean, that's venturing into the mentality of a conspiracy theorist.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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✭✭95% of my guildmates quit the game after Dragonhold and Elsweyr nerfs .
ZOS think they are right , up to them , they are the boss .
I still play this game bc it's free , I won't join plus anymore , paying for nerfs is too stupid .
But I think I will quit this game one day , when a new good MMORPG release on PS4 .
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GhostofDatthaw✭✭✭✭✭GhostofDatthaw wrote: »GhostofDatthaw wrote: »ZOS is making a new MMO, I doubt any of the new hires are additional resources for ESO.
Again then why state it exactly like this "Hiring for ESO and other projects
If there was not a significant amount of eso spots open then why even state it, why not just say "hiring for new game"
Jesus it gets annoying saying the same thing.
and FYI this is the regular employment page.. https://jobs.zenimax.com/jobs .. shows many more positions open, so to say those are just all the opening at zos atm for other games is a laugh
You're staring at a group of words looking for hidden meaning. Theyre hiring positions for ESO and other Projects. ESO has grown and that means bigger a bigger team. Other Projects means new games.
Ok? And you're assuming...
Oh and ever heard of this popular saying? "read between the lines" been around a really long time, nothing new.
When I left because the servers are in horrible state and I see them hiring a lead server engineer for "elder scrolls and other games" thier words not mine. I tend to think a little deeper than "oh common personel move". Doesn't mean I say is a bad thing or a good thing.
I mean, that's venturing into the mentality of a conspiracy theorist.
yes and no. It's not really a conspiracy theory to question what is going on at a buisness where there appears to be alot of newly open positions and the state of the businesses product is lacking.
if you never question anything it's a problem. When people follow blindly without question is when things go wrong...4 -
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✭✭✭GhostofDatthaw wrote: »GhostofDatthaw wrote: »ZOS is making a new MMO, I doubt any of the new hires are additional resources for ESO.
Again then why state it exactly like this "Hiring for ESO and other projects
If there was not a significant amount of eso spots open then why even state it, why not just say "hiring for new game"
Jesus it gets annoying saying the same thing.
and FYI this is the regular employment page.. https://jobs.zenimax.com/jobs .. shows many more positions open, so to say those are just all the opening at zos atm for other games is a laugh
You're staring at a group of words looking for hidden meaning. Theyre hiring positions for ESO and other Projects. ESO has grown and that means bigger a bigger team. Other Projects means new games.
Ok? And you're assuming...
Oh and ever heard of this popular saying? "read between the lines" been around a really long time, nothing new.
When I left because the servers are in horrible state and I see them hiring a lead server engineer for "elder scrolls and other games" thier words not mine. I tend to think a little deeper than "oh common personel move". Doesn't mean I say is a bad thing or a good thing.
I mean, that's venturing into the mentality of a conspiracy theorist.
Well, that term was specifically created (and then demonised) to try to discredit people who, often legitimately, question what is going on.
Nothing wrong with being a conspiracy theorist (in theory, at least!).
I mean, think about what it actually means - it just means someone who theorises about conspiracies.
What is wrong with that?
To expose and/or confront conspiracy has to be a good thing, right?
Surely the people involved in conspiracies are, invariably, the problem; not the person theorising about them?
Conspiracies exist (unfortunately) and so, people (who have noticed this) will, inevitably, feel the need to discuss and theorise about them.
Issues (for those not involved in conspiracies!) only tend to occur if people try to say that an unproven theory is indisputable fact, or try to blame all of the people from a certain identity group (or groups) for some, or all, of the conspiracies.
Assuming the latter isn't the case, of course - which it pretty much invariably can't be and isn't.2 -
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✭✭✭GhostofDatthaw wrote: »ZOS is making a new MMO, I doubt any of the new hires are additional resources for ESO.
Again then why state it exactly like this "Hiring for ESO and other projects
If there was not a significant amount of eso spots open then why even state it, why not just say "hiring for new game"
Jesus it gets annoying saying the same thing.
and FYI this is the regular employment page.. https://jobs.zenimax.com/jobs .. shows many more positions open, so to say those are just all the opening at zos atm for other games is a laugh
Yes, and it gets annoying seeing the same pointless discussion being launched in a duplicate thread. As you say, the hirings are for ESO and other projects, so why would anyone get either excited or afraid?
Agree...^
As OP knows, as they commented on this thread, https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/503623/eso-server-jobs-available-now/p1,
there are multiple jobs available, but they are not ALL for ESO.
And as with any large corporation, people come, people go.
Just in ESO we have seen Paul Sage, Nick Konkle, Lawrence Schick, and many others who developed ESO leave.
ZoS is just a small part of Zenimax Media, a multi billion dollar gaming company. Yes they hire, a lot! Yes, some of ZoS is working on a new IP, some were used in Fallout 76, I'm sure some are being used in Starfield and TES6..
TlDr: Nothing to see here, move along...
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✭✭✭95% of my guildmates quit the game after Dragonhold and Elsweyr nerfs .
ZOS think they are right , up to them , they are the boss .
I still play this game bc it's free , I won't join plus anymore , paying for nerfs is too stupid .
But I think I will quit this game one day , when a new good MMORPG release on PS4 .
You know PS5 is coming out in a few months? I doubt any developer is going to invest in PS4 at this point, especially since PS5 appears to be a significant upgrade from PS4 Pro.1 -
EllieBlue✭✭✭✭Neither. Only drama queens would get excited or scared over a post about a couple of jobs opening.Nirn Traders GM (est 2015)
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✭✭✭✭✭Used to be excited...
...then I was afraid...
And now I simply dont care...
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✭At this point, I don't really feel, I just think.
I think they're doing honest and well targeted efforts to improve the game.
I think we're not going to see the end result before a long time.
I think there are a few games that interest me more than ESO right now.
I think I'm not going to drop the game for the foreseeable future.
I'm moderately active. I keep playing because I have opportunities that I don't want to waste (a trial group, my own guild, etc...). I know my excitement for the game will come back at some point, and then I will get things done. I'm just making sure I don't burn out before that happens.PC - EU - France - AD
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✭✭I'm just playing this game until its not fun any more. Nothing lasts forever.
I expect ESO will either go maintenance mode where only Crown Shop will be updated with increasingly bad ripoff deals, get a great Skyrim update with couple hours questing chapter and some op stuff and story in DLC or (unlikely) get a proper great update and (likely) as result rupture from bloat and half baked emergency fixes before end of 2020.
I think its unlikely someone would release a new, good and actually working MMO which is not miserably monetized.
If I'm wrong in my expectations, it will be a happy surprise.
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✭✭Alcast stated some of the jobs are indeed for eso while others are for other projects.
"Alcast
6:18AM edited 6:18AM
That list is from here: https://jobs.zenimax.com/jobs?department=&located=&location=11
Most of these jobs are for a new IP that just started putting the team together, under the lead of Ben Jones. Not all though, some of the jobs are also directed directly at ESO. For example this job Lead Server Engineer is for ESO accoreding to the overview."
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GhostofDatthaw✭✭✭✭✭wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »GhostofDatthaw wrote: »ZOS is making a new MMO, I doubt any of the new hires are additional resources for ESO.
Again then why state it exactly like this "Hiring for ESO and other projects
If there was not a significant amount of eso spots open then why even state it, why not just say "hiring for new game"
Jesus it gets annoying saying the same thing.
and FYI this is the regular employment page.. https://jobs.zenimax.com/jobs .. shows many more positions open, so to say those are just all the opening at zos atm for other games is a laugh
Yes, and it gets annoying seeing the same pointless discussion being launched in a duplicate thread. As you say, the hirings are for ESO and other projects, so why would anyone get either excited or afraid?
Agree...^
As OP knows, as they commented on this thread, https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/503623/eso-server-jobs-available-now/p1,
there are multiple jobs available, but they are not ALL for ESO.
And as with any large corporation, people come, people go.
Just in ESO we have seen Paul Sage, Nick Konkle, Lawrence Schick, and many others who developed ESO leave.
ZoS is just a small part of Zenimax Media, a multi billion dollar gaming company. Yes they hire, a lot! Yes, some of ZoS is working on a new IP, some were used in Fallout 76, I'm sure some are being used in Starfield and TES6..
TlDr: Nothing to see here, move along...
Huzzah!
I love how people come in here and like to say stuff like this, like it is original thinking and that everyone is too dumb to understand how a buisness works. Good for you me smart man, dont hurt us peasant with your big brainEdited by GhostofDatthaw on December 3, 2019 12:30PM1 -
GhostofDatthaw✭✭✭✭✭Nordic__Knights wrote: »
https://youtu.be/ulcQECxi85A
This might help you understand
Understand what? How it's a buisness that needs to make money? Duhhhhhh no one is doubting corporate greed.Edited by GhostofDatthaw on December 3, 2019 12:48PM0 -
MajBludd✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@Datthaw the fact there are still shills for this company after all the things they have, or more appropriately, have not done, is pretty sad.
Triple A game with serious performance issues for several years, that have been ignored for the most part, how do you defend that?Edited by MajBludd on December 3, 2019 12:50PM1 -
GhostofDatthaw✭✭✭✭✭To all the people who want to come in here and parrot "job transition" need to understand that this can still be a good or bad thing. Not just, buisness as usual and move on.
Job transition on something as serious as lead server engineer??? Ok y'all just think nothing of it, I want to know what is happening. Could be great, maybe new team comes in and kills it, or maybe they come in and literally kill it, who knows0 -
GhostofDatthaw✭✭✭✭✭@Datthaw the fact there are still shills for this company after all the things they have, or more appropriately, have not done, is pretty sad.
Triple A game with serious performance issues for several years, that have been ignored for the most part, how do you defend that?
@MajBludd it blows my mind dude. The arrogant ignorance of people I find online is amazing sometimes.
The funniest thing is all the people who come in here and try to lecture about how buisnesses work don't understand a clickbait title xDEdited by GhostofDatthaw on December 3, 2019 2:00PM3 -
Nordic__Knights✭✭✭✭✭
✭GhostofDatthaw wrote: »Nordic__Knights wrote: »https://youtu.be/ulcQECxi85A
This might help you understand
Understand what? How it's a buisness that needs to make money? Duhhhhhh no one is doubting corporate greed.
That they run more then one project at an time eso, eso blades, fullout 3/ 4/ 76 , starfield, eso6, skyrim creation Club, tho it overloads them and makes them understaffed they have to no matter what work on more projects to keep investors HAPPY even when understaffed
They might see that its problematic and what to fix some of it by added more teams to work on things BETTER so having job apps is an good thing hopefully it will HELP THEM FIX THEIR ISSUES1 -
GhostofDatthaw✭✭✭✭✭Nordic__Knights wrote: »GhostofDatthaw wrote: »Nordic__Knights wrote: »https://youtu.be/ulcQECxi85A
This might help you understand
Understand what? How it's a buisness that needs to make money? Duhhhhhh no one is doubting corporate greed.
That they run more then one project at an time eso, eso blades, fullout 3/ 4/ 76 , starfield, eso6, skyrim creation Club, tho it overloads them and makes them understaffed they have to no matter what work on more projects to keep investors HAPPY even when understaffed
They might see that its problematic and what to fix some of it by added more teams to work on things BETTER so having job apps is an good thing hopefully it will HELP THEM FIX THEIR ISSUES
There ya go, took alot to get that out of you, I agree, I hope this is a good thing and it helps fix problems.0
