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Dragonhold - most popular/best classes and why

Valabrog
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As you can guess, Im asking about PVP - which class and build you see the most in BG? And which has the biggest killing potential right now? I know its too early in the patch to tell, but still, we had over a month to play and test.

In BG I personally see the most (played about 100 matches during Dragonhold, PC EU):

1) Magplars (usually 1 or 2 per team);

2) Stamden, magdk, stamblade, magsorc; (always at least 1 per team)

3) magcro, magden, stamplar; (1-2 per all teams);

4) stamsorcs, stamdks, magblades and stamcros (I saw a few times).

From my own BG newbie perspective:

a) Magplars are on the top of food chain - they often do double damage than other players in BG and double - triple healing (if not in a healer spec) - if we are on equal skill, I will never ever beat decent magplar (as a stam DK);

b) I treat with respect magsorc, magdk, magden, stamdk and stamden - mostly personal skill decides the winner;

c) I do not afraid of stamblades, stamsorc or magblades - I always try to engage these classes 1 vs 1;

d) I have no opinion on cros and stamplar, I rarelly meet them in battle.

P.S. I keep learning and trying to get better in PVP, but every time i meet a premade with the X class as a spearhead... I feel useless and just want to reroll. I dream about the glory and how I solo kill 3 players in BG, like X class can do. But Im a stamina player and want to remain stamina player. I usually score decent amount of kills and take 1-2 second place in any game, but i want to see those numbers - 6 or 10 kills are not cool. 19 kills are cool. So maybe your answers will help me to decide what to do next to achieve my goals.
Edited by Valabrog on December 2, 2019 1:24PM
  • ImSoPro
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    Want 19 kills a game? No problem bro just roll a magsorc and everytime your teammates have someone in the execute phase, spam endless fury and kill steal. 19 kills on 200k damage coming right up 🙃. I lose about 5-8 kills a game everytime I have magsorcs on my team. Gotta love it.
    Edited by ImSoPro on December 2, 2019 2:06PM
  • Valabrog
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    ImSoPro wrote: »
    Want 19 kills a game? No problem bro just roll a magsorc and everytime your teammates have someone in the execute phase, spam endless fury and kill steal. 19 kills on 200k damage coming right up 🙃. I lose about 5-8 kills a game everytime I have magsorcs on my team. Gotta love it.

    Yea, but as I marked im a stamina guy :) And Im actually not angry about sorcs and their steals in this patch - i see some other builds who often get 900k dmg, 200k healing and 19 kills......But as I said, Im looking for a solution in a sta department :)
  • CompM4s
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    I see a huge increase in stamblades, specifically snipe spammers.

    Ive seen more stamplars, stamdens and stamcros than there magicka counterparts (Probably due to onslaught).

    Magsorcs are still solid (especially for securing executes in bs), and magblades are probably one of the most difficult in a 1v1 if built right.

    As far as all classes go, they seem to be balanced to an extent. Ive seen alot of really good players on all classes in both 1v1 and group settings.
  • Valabrog
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    CompM4s wrote: »
    I see a huge increase in stamblades, specifically snipe spammers.

    Ive seen more stamplars, stamdens and stamcros than there magicka counterparts (Probably due to onslaught).

    Magsorcs are still solid (especially for securing executes in bs), and magblades are probably one of the most difficult in a 1v1 if built right.

    As far as all classes go, they seem to be balanced to an extent. Ive seen alot of really good players on all classes in both 1v1 and group settings.

    Yesterday I had 2 matches in a row against 4 stamblades snipe spammers :) It was a premade. During capture the relic they were sitting on the spawn point and defending the relic...they lost. Next was a deathmatch against them and noobie premade - snipe spammers got the last place again :D But it took some time for both teams to figure out what are they facing :)
    Edited by Valabrog on December 2, 2019 2:24PM
  • Sergykid
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    Valabrog wrote: »
    ... they often do double damage than other players in BG and double - triple healing (if not in a healer spec) - if we are on equal skill, I will never ever beat decent magplar (as a stam DK) ...

    dunno what enemies u r facing but as a main magplar i find stamdk of equal skill impossible to beat. We either finish a draw or he eventually kills me with the help of Onslaught if i am CCed at half HP. It's easy now to build full tank and have no worries, then use some sets or abilities that let u go 100% offensive like 100% penetration from Onslaught. I even had problems with magnecro and pretty much any tank that uses the mechanics to go full offensive while being full tank.
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  • Asardes
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    From the kill statistics on my Magicka Warden, over the last week.
    Sorcerer>Nightblade>Templar>DK>Warden>Necromancer

    Personally I find Sorcerers far more obnoxious than Templars:
    - unblockable AoE stun (streak)
    - even stronger heal than BoL/HoD, namely the Matriarch
    Edited by Asardes on December 2, 2019 3:53PM
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  • Valabrog
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    Sergykid wrote: »
    Valabrog wrote: »
    ... they often do double damage than other players in BG and double - triple healing (if not in a healer spec) - if we are on equal skill, I will never ever beat decent magplar (as a stam DK) ...

    dunno what enemies u r facing but as a main magplar i find stamdk of equal skill impossible to beat. We either finish a draw or he eventually kills me with the help of Onslaught if i am CCed at half HP. It's easy now to build full tank and have no worries, then use some sets or abilities that let u go 100% offensive like 100% penetration from Onslaught. I even had problems with magnecro and pretty much any tank that uses the mechanics to go full offensive while being full tank.

    I dont know either 😁 prob great players..maybe just random "luck", but I always notice only magplars as a strongest enemies. Even if I get them to 30 to use exe, they just shield block and drop 3-4 heals reseting the fight for themselfs. While im half dead in medium and zero to none stamina. Also annoying that after i put my 2 dots on them and switch to 2h bar for spammable, they insta cleanse both dots and I have to go back to beginning.
  • Valabrog
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    Asardes wrote: »
    From the kill statistics on my Magicka Warden, over the last week.
    Sorcerer>Nightblade>Templar>DK>Warden>Necromancer

    Personally I find Sorcerers far more obnoxious than Templars:
    - unblockable AoE stun (streak)
    - even stronger heal than BoL/HoD, namely the Matriarch

    For mag class magsorc maybe is the worse of the two - 1 on 1 as a stam class I dont have many issues, i cant kill them ofc if they streak away, but i can stand against them if dueled to death. I use immov potion and break free isnt cost isnt an issue to me.
  • MentalxHammer
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    Xbox NA pvp is 85% nord stamplars
  • Asardes
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    Valabrog wrote: »
    Asardes wrote: »
    From the kill statistics on my Magicka Warden, over the last week.
    Sorcerer>Nightblade>Templar>DK>Warden>Necromancer

    Personally I find Sorcerers far more obnoxious than Templars:
    - unblockable AoE stun (streak)
    - even stronger heal than BoL/HoD, namely the Matriarch

    For mag class magsorc maybe is the worse of the two - 1 on 1 as a stam class I dont have many issues, i cant kill them ofc if they streak away, but i can stand against them if dueled to death. I use immov potion and break free isnt cost isnt an issue to me.

    1v1 is not the problem, but a sorc spamming Matriarch heal on the whole group and stunning you is pretty annoying. You can't do anything about either. And add the fact he can drop attronach and go behind it so you can't target him.
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    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
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