Artorias24 wrote: »

Can we also get a random Chance while sprinting to fall down? Cause we stepped over something?

For my immersion

best comment in the thread.

Yes there are some that would have a vested interest to derail the discussion/thread by going off topic. This is done by becoming personal, hyperbole, jokes, extension. Fact is bunny hops is a combat mechanic that exploits hit box targetting and provides distance and speed way beyond what would be achieved by sprinting. A simple solution is to make the skills combo that brings about a bunny jump to cost ever increasing stamina (like streak does for sorcs) This has nothing to do with players who spacebar jump for joy and because its fun.

This threads point is that players who are intentionally using the bunny hop combo are getting a free advantage as opposed to block and rolldodge that cost stamina.

Kel wrote: »

marius_buys wrote: »

Yes there are some that would have a vested interest to derail the discussion/thread by going off topic. This is done by becoming personal, hyperbole, jokes, extension. Fact is bunny hops are a combat mechanic that exploits hit box targetting and provides distance and speed way beyond what would be achieved by sprinting. A simple solution is to make the skills combo that brings about a bunny jump to cost ever increasing stamina (like streak does for sorcs) This has nothing to do with players who spacebar jump for joy and because its fun.

This threads point is that players who are intentionally using the bunny hop combo are getting a free advantage as opposed to block and rolldodge that cost stamina.

I keep hearing people say it's a hit box exploit, but as someone who doesn't jump and have only fought them, I'm not sure how accurate that is.
I've never had a issue hitting someone jumping around. If anything, since you can't turn in the air or change direction, it seems like a massive disadvantage. Can't understand what use it has since I can't think of anyone who'd claim a win or loss because of it. Not to mention it looks ridiculous. The only real use I can see for jumping is that it may help with button timing. But a combat advantage? Sort of seems like the opposite. Never have I had an issue hitting a jumper.

Man how I miss hitting a old Dizzy swing against a jumper! Always looked forward to knocking them way up in the air. Just another reason to miss dizzy!

The exploit is in tracking and targetting.

Gilvoth wrote: »

zenimax, please add a stamina cost to jump

Ew no way.

I thought bunny hopping in ESO referred to the common exploit where players hit just the right buttons with the right timings (they macro it) and it results in a jump that is significantly longer than a sorc streak (they can make the jump from the gate tower to a corner tower on the outer keep wall.)

Spoiler alert, it is why you can't find that high ranking NB after he cloaks even if you have a good instant cast ranged AOE for reveal. Most experienced NB's in CYR have the bunny hop combination macrod and hit it as soon as they cloak to significantly distance themselves from their previous location. ZOS solution is, of course, nerf NB instead of fix broken mechanic allowing people to cheat.

But the bunny hopping you refer to, why would anybody be bothered by that? Just imaging they are moles and you are playing whack a mole.

bunny hop got patched pu recently you cant do it anymore.

I think it looks rediculous and it's hilarious that people think it makes it harder to kill them. They die just as fast as non bunny hoppers.

I remember in TERA they made it so that if you got hit while jumping you'd automatically get knocked down on your butt. Would love to see that here because bunny hopping in any game is stupid and irritating.

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

It should also make each jump more tiring then the last, idiots who jump around like they got ants in their pants should have no stamina.

exactly!

Or, we could all just agree that people playing other ways than we do is pretty common in an MMO and accept that we will sometimes see gameplay behavior we find annoying.

No one dies in PvP to a bunny hopper. Bunny hopping, like any advanced character control skill requires coordination and practice. If they're putting that much thought into game mechanics they would have likely gotten you other ways as well. Most people who are just jumping are doing LITERALLY nothing to anyone and should be left alone. If you don't like looking at it, don't look. People doing annoying things is a staple of being in any mmo, if you can't handle that you might be in the wrong genre.

MrGhosty wrote: »

Or, we could all just agree that people playing other ways than we do is pretty common in an MMO and accept that we will sometimes see gameplay behavior we find annoying.

No one dies in PvP to a bunny hopper. Bunny hopping, like any advanced character control skill requires coordination and practice. If they're putting that much thought into game mechanics they would have likely gotten you other ways as well. Most people who are just jumping are doing LITERALLY nothing to anyone and should be left alone. If you don't like looking at it, don't look. People doing annoying things is a staple of being in any mmo, if you can't handle that you might be in the wrong genre.

With respect, you dont know what you're talking about OR trying to downplay the issue.

Gilvoth wrote: »

zenimax, please add a stamina cost to jump

Zenimax please make players that Spam Dizzy Swing get dizzy n fall on their [/snip]

Jesus christ this is the dumbest thing i have seen lately.

I agree! Jumping makes people harder to target esp up close, since it gives a combat advantage there should be a stamina cost to doing it whilst in combat.