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Curious_Death
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just casual BG experience... :) 1000 cp gets 300 cp randoms vs premades =)
  • Reyleigh
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    I've seen 300cp wreck over 1000cp
    But yeah sometimes you get unlucky
    I once fell against a team that was so good and in sync that none of the other teams scored even one kill, true story
  • StrandedMonkey
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    battlegrounds are non champion points bud
  • Axx_Xa
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    ^ This
  • Curious_Death
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    battlegrounds are non champion points bud

    i know its bright as sun bud, but i talk about their fighting experience :dizzy:
  • Zulera301
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    CPs don't equat fighting experience. I carried a team of 810s on a CP352 back in the day.

    granted the other teams were also potatoes, but the just goes to show that just cuz you have a lot of CP doesn't mean you're good at the game.
    Shortly after the formation of the Ebonheart Pact, a Nord woman was given a tour of the Tribunal Temple. When later asked about the experience, she seemed upset. Suffice to say, the Dunmer were not pleased to hear this, and thus they inquired further.
    "Well," the Nord frowned, "the priests were very angry and unwelcoming. They kept shouting things at me like "you can't drink that mead in here!" and "somebody stop her, she's running naked!" and "we can't catch her; she's covered in grease!""
  • jlboozer
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    It's part of the solo que experience bud, you just have to roll with it. A good team will work as one unit if they're good and decimate any uncordinated team every time. When I get in matches like that I just focus on not going negative and consider that a personal victory. They should just have premades against premades, and solo players against other solo players imo.
  • geonsocal
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    battlegrounds are non champion points bud

    hahahahahahahahahahaha...

    listen guy:

    once you hit cp160 and can properly gear up - supposedly, all is equal...

    usually not the truth though...

    funny thing is - it doesn't even take a full premade to wreck havoc on the other two teams in deathmatch - two can totally destroy a bunch on non-comm randoms...
    Edited by geonsocal on November 28, 2019 11:34PM
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  • Asardes
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    Players with 1000 CP are casuals, I can agree to that.
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
    vMA (The Flawless Conqueror) | vVH (Spirit Slayer & of the Undying Song) | vDSA | vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vMoL | vAS+1 | Emperor

    PC-EU CP 3000+
    41,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
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    Characters:
    Asardes | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 50 | Master Crafter: all traits & recipes, all styles released before High Isle
    Alxaril Nelcarion | 50 High Elf Sorcerer | AD AR 20 |
    Dro'Bear Three-paws | 50 Khajiit Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
    Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |

    PC-NA CP 1800+
    30,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
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    Characters:
    Asardes the Exile | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 30 |
  • Dojohoda
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    It's not a perfect matching system for sure. Is that even possible? :|
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  • validifyedneb18_ESO
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    l2p, if you're good you can carry without a team, you got smashed by the drakes even...
    EU: Magden, Magknight, Stamsorc(*2), Magsorc
    NA: Magplar, Magden, PotatoBlade
  • xF1REFL1x
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    I'm only in there for crystal and motifs. After that the pvpers can have it back. Kinda fun sometimes.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    BGs needs overhaul:
    1. Ranked mode for premades and with higher rewards, more clear statistics and competitive spirit
    2. Random mode which you can't enter either then solo
  • Ysbriel
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    Premades? how do you know they are premades?
  • idk
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    battlegrounds are non champion points bud

    i know its bright as sun bud, but i talk about their fighting experience :dizzy:

    And we see plenty of CP capped players that are fairly inexperienced. Players can clearly normal dungeons to get 1k CP yet we do come across low CP players That are among the best because they are good players, sometimes coming from another platform.
  • Olupajmibanan
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    Simply split the queue in Solo/Duo and Full-4 premade. Being two friends paired together doesn't offer any significant advantage, and talking from experience from other PvP-only games where queue works just like that, solo players tend to crush duo premades due to MMR altering coeficient.

    I proposed this veeeery long ago but was immediately rejected with "what about 3 premades". But it's pretty clear that allowing 3-premade would cause more problems than good. Firstly, 3-premade must be queued with one solo player. Vast majority of solo players would queue for Solo/Duo anyways so queue times would be extremely long for 3-premades. Secondly, the solo player would be the first to blame when things don't go well offering a very bad experience for them, driving them to solo/duo queue and even strenghtening the problem 1.
  • Curious_Death
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    geonsocal wrote: »
    battlegrounds are non champion points bud

    hahahahahahahahahahaha...

    listen guy:

    once you hit cp160 and can properly gear up - supposedly, all is equal...

    usually not the truth though...

    funny thing is - it doesn't even take a full premade to wreck havoc on the other two teams in deathmatch - two can totally destroy a bunch on non-comm randoms...

    thats the point...
  • Qbiken
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    I'd rather have skewed games compared to waiting 20 min for a game. The MMR system needs to be removed and/or reworked. Makes no sense that I should wait longer for a game just because my character has higher MMR than someone else.

  • Qbiken
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    Ysbriel wrote: »
    Premades? how do you know they are premades?

    Because when you enter high mmr BG's on your character and starts seeing the same 20 people in every single BG you play, you learn pretty fast who's premades and who's not.
  • Curious_Death
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    I'd rather have skewed games compared to waiting 20 min for a game. The MMR system needs to be removed and/or reworked. Makes no sense that I should wait longer for a game just because my character has higher MMR than someone else.

    I think a ranked match making is a solution - better players will play with equal for monthly/week rewards and leave casuals alone :) also reward should be equal top players could get X amount of gladiator proofs !
  • Sylianwe
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    I'm surprised to see that you were able to enter a battle grounds; I've been queuing for weeks now and haven't been able to enter. So I'm more interested in how you've managed that.
    Zulera301 wrote: »
    just cuz you have a lot of CP doesn't mean you're good at the game.

    This is true. A long long time ago, I can still remember, Lvl CP 810 in my groups needing lots of help vs lvl CP 300 carrying everyone.

    Consider how many players "power-lvl" vs those who actually take the time to understand and study the diverse mechanics for any aspect this game has to offer; therein lies the difference.
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  • Curious_Death
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    Malfoy wrote: »
    I'm surprised to see that you were able to enter a battle grounds; I've been queuing for weeks now and haven't been able to enter. So I'm more interested in how you've managed that.
    Zulera301 wrote: »
    just cuz you have a lot of CP doesn't mean you're good at the game.

    This is true. A long long time ago, I can still remember, Lvl CP 810 in my groups needing lots of help vs lvl CP 300 carrying everyone.

    Consider how many players "power-lvl" vs those who actually take the time to understand and study the diverse mechanics for any aspect this game has to offer; therein lies the difference.

    And then search on forum how many some "pros" have alt accounts!
    Same in below 50 lvl i see ppl that clearly says its golden alt :blush:

    just make ranked BG with weekly/monthly rewards for ex. 15 gladiator proofs.
  • Asardes
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    Ysbriel wrote: »
    Premades? how do you know they are premades?

    Because when you enter high mmr BG's on your character and starts seeing the same 20 people in every single BG you play, you learn pretty fast who's premades and who's not.

    I saw this in the last couple of days and I wasn't entirely sure it was the case, but now you confirm it. At one point I was basically playing with the same 10-12 people, which were clearly experienced, just we turned up in different teams, with some odd game in between where I got grouped with some other low CP players.

    I only queue solo since BGs pop up fasts. I actually enjoy the experience of high MMR games, and even against pre-mades, and outnumbered - in a large portion of games I played my team had just 3 players against 2 full teams - I still push hard to do my best. In fact that's how I learn to play a character, being beaten, seeing the combos and thinking about counter-play, rather than slaughtering inexperienced players. Each time it feels fresh, although this is my 10th character.

    Another quirk I saw is that even if I queued for random BG, I kept getting mostly relic and chaos ball games one after the other, and I think I got no deathmatch for 10-12 consecutive games at one point. I'm not sure how you are distributed, but my hypothesis is that flag and land grab games are picked less in their respective queues, in favor or deathmatch, so the former get filled with people who queue for random.
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
    vMA (The Flawless Conqueror) | vVH (Spirit Slayer & of the Undying Song) | vDSA | vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vMoL | vAS+1 | Emperor

    PC-EU CP 3000+
    41,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Pact Veteran Trade: Exemplary
    Traders of the Covenant: God of Sales
    Tamriels Emporium: God of Sales
    Valinor Overflow: Trader
    The Traveling Merchant: Silver


    Characters:
    Asardes | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 50 | Master Crafter: all traits & recipes, all styles released before High Isle
    Alxaril Nelcarion | 50 High Elf Sorcerer | AD AR 20 |
    Dro'Bear Three-paws | 50 Khajiit Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
    Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |

    PC-NA CP 1800+
    30,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Savage Blade: Majestic Machette


    Characters:
    Asardes the Exile | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 30 |
  • Qbiken
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    The main issue with having characters of high mmr is the insane time I spend waiting for an actual game. A deathmatch ia easily 15 min at avarage and if I want to go for any other BG mode that isn't deathmatch I can expect to wait even longer.

    I generally don't mind being up against premades, but when I spend more time waiting for a BG than actually playing, then there's a serious issue.

    But first step needs to be to rework how the leaderboards work by adding a ranked system and a non ranked system. You only get leaderboard points by playing ranked games, and then make the rewards from leaderboard really nice.
  • Asardes
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    Since Monday when they patched the game and fixed the BG queue the waiting times were generally decent and they didn't seem to increase as I climbed on the leaderboard. In fact yesterday they were among the shortest I've seen for a while, at around 5 minutes, although I was higher than the days before. The only day when it was bad was Wednesday. For some reason I had to wait up to 12-15 minutes for games. There was something odd with the whole day, as Craglorn seemed emptier than usual when looking at the players in Belkarth and LFG messages on zone chat; my sales on guild stores were almost non-existent. I'm pretty certain there were fewer people online for some reason. I spend my wait time running around Craglorn and picking up nodes, so it doesn't go to waste.
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
    vMA (The Flawless Conqueror) | vVH (Spirit Slayer & of the Undying Song) | vDSA | vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vMoL | vAS+1 | Emperor

    PC-EU CP 3000+
    41,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Pact Veteran Trade: Exemplary
    Traders of the Covenant: God of Sales
    Tamriels Emporium: God of Sales
    Valinor Overflow: Trader
    The Traveling Merchant: Silver


    Characters:
    Asardes | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 50 | Master Crafter: all traits & recipes, all styles released before High Isle
    Alxaril Nelcarion | 50 High Elf Sorcerer | AD AR 20 |
    Dro'Bear Three-paws | 50 Khajiit Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
    Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |

    PC-NA CP 1800+
    30,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Savage Blade: Majestic Machette


    Characters:
    Asardes the Exile | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 30 |
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