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What class kills you most in pvp? (let's consider a perfect scenario for both sides)
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JumpmanLane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭JumpmanLane wrote: »In Cyro? Zergs! Lol. I’m winning my 1v1s (or put out so much damage fools run), I’m 1vXing taters. And I Zerg down the rest.
Killing 7x more fools than kill me is about average. When I do I think THATS the build.
122 is my kill streak record. It’s not unusual to go 30, 40, 50 kills before I die. I went 116 and 6 the other day and was pissed. I can’t remember the last time I died 10 times playing ALL day long. I must have killed 300 people that day lol.
Getting mad and trying to 1vX organized ball groups because I know the fools and hate them ALL is what kills me the most lol.
I play MagDk. I routinely lose duels to VERY good players, the kind that’d beat you on ANY class. The kind that can brawl. Helps you stay sharp tho.
Why do you call your opponents fools.JumpmanLane wrote: »In Cyro? Zergs! Lol. I’m winning my 1v1s (or put out so much damage fools run), I’m 1vXing taters. And I Zerg down the rest.
Killing 7x more fools than kill me is about average. When I do I think THATS the build.
122 is my kill streak record. It’s not unusual to go 30, 40, 50 kills before I die. I went 116 and 6 the other day and was pissed. I can’t remember the last time I died 10 times playing ALL day long. I must have killed 300 people that day lol.
Getting mad and trying to 1vX organized ball groups because I know the fools and hate them ALL is what kills me the most lol.
I play MagDk. I routinely lose duels to VERY good players, the kind that’d beat you on ANY class. The kind that can brawl. Helps you stay sharp tho.
Why do you call your opponents fools.
Because a good telling snitch would hot-foot it ‘round to ZOS if I called em what I REALLY call them here in these forums.
Trust me, those dummies ARE fools...did I mention that I hate them. Each and every one.1 -
Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭JumpmanLane wrote: »Because a good telling snitch would hot-foot it ‘round to ZOS if I called em what I REALLY call them here in these forums.
Trust me, those dummies ARE fools...did I mention that I hate them. Each and every one.
W-woah.0 -
NyassaV✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Templars might not always be the ones to kill me but they always survive me. It's pretty hard to stop a Templar bursting you down properly and by pretty hard I mean it.Flawless Conqueror ~ Grand OverlordShe/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info0 -
Kikazaru✭✭✭✭✭
✭As the poll stands now; that necromancers is so lonely. :cMizaru
“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”0 -
Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Templar (magicka/stamina - specify)Stomplars are the worst. MUST NERF!#CAREBEARMASTERRACE0 -
Bobby_V_Rockit✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dragonknight (magicka/stamina - specify)Whichever class spams puncturing sweeps and jabs0 -
azjuwelz✭✭✭✭Templar (magicka/stamina - specify)It depends on the patch.
Last patch it was Templars because it seemed like they were everywhere with their jabbing and such (though I've killed just as many of them).
When necros first appeared I fell to their ultimate a few times until I figured it out. Nowadays they rarely kill me and I've killed quite a few of them.
In Cyrodil, it's either zergs or the well-positioned magblade bomber.
Other classes 1x1 it's really about the player rather than the class.Xbox-NA
Guildmaster of Nightmothers Deadly Deals
PVE/PVP Stamblade: Ylandra Silverthorn
PVE Magwarden healer: Raw'zl Dah Zel
PVE DK Tank: Greta Feuerwerk
PVP StamDK: Helga Feuerwerk
PVP Necro Healer: Dratha Helbain
PVE Magcro: Dorian Fey
PVE Magblade: Arivssa Thaoral
PVE Magsorc: Eldara Birchwood0 -
Vevvev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Dragonknight (magicka/stamina - specify)Magicka Dragonknight that uses Ferocious leap, flames of oblivion, and a combination of other good DPS skills. While I can still beat them as I am a Magicka Dragonknight myself the ultimate deciding factor is their gear and skill.
I run War maiden, Illambris, and either Spell Strategist or Crafty Alfiq. ((All 3 sets are gold with divines. Although my flame staff is imbued with a magicka absorption enchantment, and my jewelry is 2 pieces of infused with spell damage and one arcane with spell damage.))
My enemy can use any combination of sets but the one thing that gets me is the Shadowrend set and that dang clannfear that comes out of nowhere. The damage it deals forces me on the defensive and if I try to be more aggressive the minor maim makes my attacks 15% weaker.
I know I'll eventually be able to beat them given enough experimentation but its becoming annoying for me.PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK0 -
JumpmanLane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Magicka Dragonknight that uses Ferocious leap, flames of oblivion, and a combination of other good DPS skills. While I can still beat them as I am a Magicka Dragonknight myself the ultimate deciding factor is their gear and skill.
I run War maiden, Illambris, and either Spell Strategist or Crafty Alfiq. ((All 3 sets are gold with divines. Although my flame staff is imbued with a magicka absorption enchantment, and my jewelry is 2 pieces of infused with spell damage and one arcane with spell damage.))
My enemy can use any combination of sets but the one thing that gets me is the Shadowrend set and that dang clannfear that comes out of nowhere. The damage it deals forces me on the defensive and if I try to be more aggressive the minor maim makes my attacks 15% weaker.
I know I'll eventually be able to beat them given enough experimentation but its becoming annoying for me.
You can run better stuff than ALL that stuff you’re running...even crafty. And you need to be in impen if you fighting people.
And change that glyph to flame damage on the flame stick. And drop the infused jewelry, run all arcane spell damage.
Your build is beating itself...
Shadowrend is great for duels. Better stuff to run open world.
Edited by JumpmanLane on November 23, 2019 12:29AM3 -
OtarTheMad✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Templar (magicka/stamina - specify)LoL, poor necros. This should give ZOS an idea of how below average the class is.0 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Templar (magicka/stamina - specify)No lifers in specific. And i kill idiots. Anyone worse than me is an idiot. And anyone better than me has no life.1 -
Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭OtarTheMad wrote: »LoL, poor necros. This should give ZOS an idea of how below average the class is.
Not really. Since it's a class behind a paywall and this poll only allows one choice, it's not really indicative of anything. Many PvPers don't buy expansions, so how do you know that it simply isn't that the necro population is too low for anyone to care in the first place?1 -
Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Sorcerer (magicka/stamina - specify)Kills me? Magicka Sorcerer. Cause all they do all day long is spam Fury. Effectively making your health 25% less, if stacked.
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Outplays me? Purely Situational. Any class can but a well timed burst from a Stamina Warden can get me.
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Makes me just give up? Mag Templar. Annoying A F. I just NOPE right out. It's not worth the nerves nor time.
PS: Templar spammable isn't so great, I don't understand what's everyone's problem with that skill. L2P. Period.
Can you actually imagine the entitled community backlash if Necros were strong? It would be Pay2Win spam all day every day every hour every minute cause people are just idiots lol. Look at the PvP nerf threads. You can't be seriousOtarTheMad wrote: »LoL, poor necros. This should give ZOS an idea of how below average the class is.
Edited by Nyladreas on November 23, 2019 7:58AM0 -
Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Sorcerer (magicka/stamina - specify)Noobplars in all their glory
How the hell did you die to that? That damage is SO LOW lol. I would hit you for at least double that amount. Also you're a warden, you got defense, self heals, and plenty of tools to go offensive on a templar when they put their guard down.
No offense, honestly, I'm just baffled. Get a friend to practice with.2 -
Hotdog_23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Where is option for just a better player or a situation where I am outplayed. I don’t find that class really matters nearly as much as individual player skill and situational awareness.1 -
TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Dragonknight (magicka/stamina - specify)DKs, because I PvP either as my two pact mains, archer girl or spellcaster boy, and both of those rely -heavily- on stuff that can be sent back in their faces with a flap of DK wings...0 -
Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭TheShadowScout wrote: »DKs, because I PvP either as my two pact mains, archer girl or spellcaster boy, and both of those rely -heavily- on stuff that can be sent back in their faces with a flap of DK wings...
Uh...what?2 -
Reyleigh✭✭✭Noobplars in all their glory
How the hell did you die to that? That damage is SO LOW lol. I would hit you for at least double that amount. Also you're a warden, you got defense, self heals, and plenty of tools to go offensive on a templar when they put their guard down.
No offense, honestly, I'm just baffled. Get a friend to practice with.
I was busy killing two of his friends while he was attacking me from behind, because of the range of jabs and the fact he was in my blindspot i didn't even notice him.
Also don't pay attention to the damage on the death recap, he was doing way more than that0 -
OtarTheMad✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Templar (magicka/stamina - specify)Kills me? Magicka Sorcerer. Cause all they do all day long is spam Fury. Effectively making your health 25% less, if stacked.
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Outplays me? Purely Situational. Any class can but a well timed burst from a Stamina Warden can get me.
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Makes me just give up? Mag Templar. Annoying A F. I just NOPE right out. It's not worth the nerves nor time.
PS: Templar spammable isn't so great, I don't understand what's everyone's problem with that skill. L2P. Period.
Can you actually imagine the entitled community backlash if Necros were strong? It would be Pay2Win spam all day every day every hour every minute cause people are just idiots lol. Look at the PvP nerf threads. You can't be seriousOtarTheMad wrote: »LoL, poor necros. This should give ZOS an idea of how below average the class is.
Yes, you don't want to be pay 2 win for sure. However, I don't think it is much to ask to have damage abilities that actually are worth slotting (in pvp). Skulls is about it if you don't count the Hulk Smash ult and that ability is slow. Take harmony away and what is Boneyard? My BB still doesn't know what an enemy is and hey that 3 seconds of tether damage did a lot before that slight hill caused LOS issues and canceled it.
@Kadoin, well of course the pay wall has some to do with it. Elsweyr is still new and the issues plaguing the servers aren't helping sell anything. I, however, think it has something to do with not many necro's being memorable yet. Of course necro's get tons of kills, but I am just not sure anyone stands out so therefore other and more familiar classes stand out. I even had a few players ask in zone, I think last week, what class has Boneyard. Time will make them become more familiar and known. I do feel that necros are a below average class tho. Doesn't mean they aren't fun... I mean I main a necro.0 -
Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Sorcerer (magicka/stamina - specify)Noobplars in all their glory
How the hell did you die to that? That damage is SO LOW lol. I would hit you for at least double that amount. Also you're a warden, you got defense, self heals, and plenty of tools to go offensive on a templar when they put their guard down.
No offense, honestly, I'm just baffled. Get a friend to practice with.
I was busy killing two of his friends while he was attacking me from behind, because of the range of jabs and the fact he was in my blindspot i didn't even notice him.
Also don't pay attention to the damage on the death recap, he was doing way more than that
Ohhh okay then that figures. I thought it was a 1v1 situation. Mehh Templars do screw you up if outnumbered.0 -
BoraxFlux✭✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »OP specially wrote in "perfect scenario", i.e. 1v1 when both are at full resources in the beginning.
Can't choose, I don't keep scores. And rhe situations vary greatly. If the above mentioned premises are in play, it would be Mag/Stam(?) wardens or Mag/Stam(?) blades and Stam Sorcs as I encounter those mostly on their own in Cyrodiil.
Playing various chars & roles, but my main is an Argonian MagPlar dedicated healer.
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Smol_BatSoul ShrivenBallgroups composed of every class but mainly a lot of templars, dks and necromancers, everyone running Vicious death, proxidet, destro ult or vampire ult, lots of aoe, lots of heals, and that bloody necromancer major vulnerability ultimate. There is no way to deal with them with exception of a BIGGER BALLGROUP. ITS RIDICULOUS.0
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Nevasca✭✭✭✭✭Sorcerer (magicka/stamina - specify)Mostly mage's fury because if you are getting zerged and it procs, you're dead. For 1v1 I don't have an answer.Edited by Nevasca on November 23, 2019 1:07PM0 -
Moonsorrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭OtarTheMad wrote: »LoL, poor necros. This should give ZOS an idea of how below average the class is.
Not really. Since it's a class behind a paywall and this poll only allows one choice, it's not really indicative of anything. Many PvPers don't buy expansions, so how do you know that it simply isn't that the necro population is too low for anyone to care in the first place?
This has sort of truth in it. Not that many Necros around, not only because they are not the most easiest class to play at pvp efficiently (talking about solo play), but yeah - not all pvp players buy all expansions or DLC, they happily play with their vanilla dk, templar and sorc mains - of course occasionally complaining that the new class that is coming is "op" until in reality it is not after the initial amount of them showing at their death recap.
Many say it is bad and below average and yes it has its problems like BBones targeting still not being reliable on pvp realities (terrain and movement) if compared to things like Shalks that it is trying to imitate functionally.
When things work it is great fun though. And even when i play without BB on bar at all i still get salty whispers like "you only won because of cancer class" after 1vs1 fights. So like okay..
Now people die to templars, because there are many still after last patch huge templar fotm. It actually is nice to see more Stamplars around, i enjoy them as opponents.
I think people just have to learn how to deal with Sweeps/Jabs. It is not that hard when you start to know what to do. Their own movement is the key (i assume people are at the level of Snares are no trouble since got them sorted with setup/build). When a templar Sweeps/Jabs you, do not follow the urge to move back/escape - just move forward and through them, and burst them down like anyone else. Happy hunting!
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EmEm_Oh✭✭✭✭✭MagDK and Magplars are pretty strong atm.
Which is fine. I deal.
I'm a Nord magsorc.
I've had some fun NB fights, too.
Fellow sorcs have good burst, I noticed. Dangerous!Edited by EmEm_Oh on November 23, 2019 2:31PM0
