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Nightblades are too weak and need some of their skills either buffed or reverted.
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technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Im really for neither. I dont thing you can have the combination of shadow image with cloak AND be equivalent as classes without it in an open fight. I think the problem is, people want to have the ability to gank as a NB as well as go toe to toe, and not die. I like playing stealth classes, and including NB; but I knew from previous games that the class that can disappear mid fight will always be OP or UP and rarely if ever at a good middle ground.2 -
Vlad9425✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Buff nightblade skills or revert to older versionsI just want fracture back on SA and Incap to Stun again like the name of the ability suggests. Also remove the idiotic cast times from Ults.2 -
srfrogg23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I’m a troll and I just want to cause troubleI like my nightblade the way it is.0 -
siddique✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Don’t buff nightbladesNerf em! The whole class should be deleted."Knee-jerk reactionist."
Lost Depths, 2015-2022.2 -
sproattt✭✭✭Don’t buff nightbladesFrom a PvP standpoint Stamblade is fine. Meh, ideally we could have fracture back as other classes have it rooted into there toolkit; removal of cast times on Incap and TETHER. Why Tether a support ability has a cast time when Templar AOE Aedic Ult or DK leap, stun and gives resources does not is what concerns me the most.
Magblade in PvP depends on the player. I've seen a lot of a great magblades but they get fewer and fewer the more you play. Everyone is playing Templar and from what the recent patches and foresight looks like; these guys gonna be on top u til next eso.
Templars gap closer stuns and sets off balance and AND negates any resistances you have.... Where's my gap closer like that on a stamblade. ZoS, you removed the stun off ambush when it didn't even stun in PvP. These guys don't play the gam or test whatever game changing reverts they may every 3 months. I cancelled ESO plus the moment Elsweyr dropped, server performance since the has plummeted. You can't be close to keeps during fights as lag and then potentially load screen during capture will kill you as your loading but active in the game.Stamblade Main.1 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Buff nightblade skills or revert to older versionsNB's have stealth on demand. Right in front of my face while they are being attacked. Are you kidding me with this?
All you need to do is Jab Jab and they pop back into your face screaming.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!1 -
sproattt✭✭✭Don’t buff nightbladesAs for jabs. There are many counters such as roll, shade port. Or roll, stun with tactician or fear break los, shade then buff and attack mode. My issue with jabs is that with so many users resorting to Templar that each jab procs burning light every 0.5 seconds for each user that is s Templar. Pair that with purifying light that can crit now 'boom baby' you got some defending to do...
There are counters to everything. Apart from, glitchy cc from leap/streak glitch unable to break cc and breathe of life healing from 0.5% to 85%.Stamblade Main.0 -
xenowarrior92eb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Buff nightblade skills or revert to older versionsyeah give us back minor berserker on the 60 second relentless and revert dark cloak to its old self!2 -
Ri_Khan✭✭✭✭✭
✭The only issue I'm having with my stamblade is that it feels like my dps has been put on a lag switch. It's all slow and molasses-like now. Not sure if it's due to a dead hampster, nerfs, gcd, cast-times or whatever. All I know is that it feels like %$!& now.1 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭Don’t buff nightbladesAll NB players are trolls, keep em down at what they perceive is the bottom because they don't have the ability to adapt!2 -
SirLeeMinion✭✭✭✭✭
✭I’m a troll and I just want to cause troubleMy NBs are crafters right now, and have been for some time. I find them more difficult and less enjoyable to play, both in PvE and PvP, than most other classes. ...and since I picked troll: l2P, git gud, more salt please, etc...0 -
Shadowasrial✭✭✭✭✭
✭Buff nightblade skills or revert to older versionsStellarvorous wrote: »Is it possible when the statement "We are ghosts of our former selves" is made it just means nightblades were balanced and brought closer in line with other classes as opposed to being at the top?
Its a hypothetical question because as soon as this gets posted I know the reply im going to get from the OP though iv nothing against you but when it comes to the forums and class balance as a general topic hardly anything that gets said is truthful.
But here is some truth *Imo* that few will admit the vast majority of people on this forum want their class on top not in the middle and sure as hell not on the bottom regardless if its PvE Or PvP.
It goes for all classes people will outright lie repeatedly and fabricate information they think will justify the changing of the class they play while claiming its weak and desperately in need of buffs or skill reverts all the while simultaneously citing the classes that pose threats to them as being "overpowered or broken" in an attempt to get them nerfed.
So I ask you OP how is your thread any different then the countless other class balance threads where people want the class they like buffed especially with your statement "We are ghosts of our former selves" because literally every other class can make that statement even necromancers.
The difference is I’m not asking to nerf other classes. Buff nb so it can actually compete. Outside of onslaught gank and snipes it’s hard to really kill anyone these days with nbs since most of our kit has either been deleted or changed into something useless in combat1 -
Cirantille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'm thinking that people are joking about NBs.
Tonight for the first time I PvPed with my NB-stam and can't count how many people I ganked lol
And I am not even pro at this, didn't know what I was pressing at times bc I didn't memorise my rotation yet
Not every class has to go roar around with two handed weapon, this class is meant to be more sneaky, they even have a skill line called assasination
Like all you gotta do is cloak -> snipe/lethal arrow -> ambush to approach -> surprise attack + incapacitate they are dead at ambush approach mostly then cloak back, they won't even know you are thereEdited by Cirantille on November 17, 2019 9:29PM3 -
Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Don’t buff nightblades*shrug* I don't give a flying flip about the competitive gamer meta... and my girl is fine as far as the roleplayer's meta goes. She's better than she's ever been, in fact.3 -
Marcus684✭✭✭✭✭
✭Stellarvorous wrote: »Is it possible when the statement "We are ghosts of our former selves" is made it just means nightblades were balanced and brought closer in line with other classes as opposed to being at the top?
Its a hypothetical question because as soon as this gets posted I know the reply im going to get from the OP though iv nothing against you but when it comes to the forums and class balance as a general topic hardly anything that gets said is truthful.
But here is some truth *Imo* that few will admit the vast majority of people on this forum want their class on top not in the middle and sure as hell not on the bottom regardless if its PvE Or PvP.
It goes for all classes people will outright lie repeatedly and fabricate information they think will justify the changing of the class they play while claiming its weak and desperately in need of buffs or skill reverts all the while simultaneously citing the classes that pose threats to them as being "overpowered or broken" in an attempt to get them nerfed.
So I ask you OP how is your thread any different then the countless other class balance threads where people want the class they like buffed especially with your statement "We are ghosts of our former selves" because literally every other class can make that statement even necromancers.
What he said...but with punctuation.1 -
AMeanOne✭✭✭✭✭I think both nbs are good in pvp atm. I do wish they would take vulnerability off of ambush and put that on mark, and then give suprise attack and concealed weapon major fracture/breach.2
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Gracous✭✭✭✭I have 3 stambaldes (3 different builds) and they all do fine. I suck at PvP but I still manage to get good amount of AP every time i go into CYrodiil. So i think this is a L2P issue.1
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ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Buff nightblade skills or revert to older versionsCirantille wrote: »I'm thinking that people are joking about NBs.
Tonight for the first time I PvPed with my NB-stam and can't count how many people I ganked lol
And I am not even pro at this, didn't know what I was pressing at times bc I didn't memorise my rotation yet
Not every class has to go roar around with two handed weapon, this class is meant to be more sneaky, they even have a skill line called assasination
Like all you gotta do is cloak -> snipe/lethal arrow -> ambush to approach -> surprise attack + incapacitate they are dead at ambush approach mostly then cloak back, they won't even know you are there
Yknow most people would break free and roll dodge in the middle of your ambush or surprise attack.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!2 -
D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Don’t buff nightbladesThey should be fine tuned a bit. Some of the anti-ac skills are BS, but that applies to all classes IMO0 -
D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Don’t buff nightbladesShadowasrial wrote: »Stellarvorous wrote: »Is it possible when the statement "We are ghosts of our former selves" is made it just means nightblades were balanced and brought closer in line with other classes as opposed to being at the top?
Its a hypothetical question because as soon as this gets posted I know the reply im going to get from the OP though iv nothing against you but when it comes to the forums and class balance as a general topic hardly anything that gets said is truthful.
But here is some truth *Imo* that few will admit the vast majority of people on this forum want their class on top not in the middle and sure as hell not on the bottom regardless if its PvE Or PvP.
It goes for all classes people will outright lie repeatedly and fabricate information they think will justify the changing of the class they play while claiming its weak and desperately in need of buffs or skill reverts all the while simultaneously citing the classes that pose threats to them as being "overpowered or broken" in an attempt to get them nerfed.
So I ask you OP how is your thread any different then the countless other class balance threads where people want the class they like buffed especially with your statement "We are ghosts of our former selves" because literally every other class can make that statement even necromancers.
The difference is I’m not asking to nerf other classes. Buff nb so it can actually compete. Outside of onslaught gank and snipes it’s hard to really kill anyone these days with nbs since most of our kit has either been deleted or changed into something useless in combat
People were complaining that NB needs to be something other than just a gank class. I imagine in future updates they'll be changing combat further for all classes. Whether it is positive or negative is another topic entirely.0 -
Shadowasrial✭✭✭✭✭
✭Buff nightblade skills or revert to older versionsCirantille wrote: »I'm thinking that people are joking about NBs.
Tonight for the first time I PvPed with my NB-stam and can't count how many people I ganked lol
And I am not even pro at this, didn't know what I was pressing at times bc I didn't memorise my rotation yet
Not every class has to go roar around with two handed weapon, this class is meant to be more sneaky, they even have a skill line called assasination
Like all you gotta do is cloak -> snipe/lethal arrow -> ambush to approach -> surprise attack + incapacitate they are dead at ambush approach mostly then cloak back, they won't even know you are there
Yknow most people would break free and roll dodge in the middle of your ambush or surprise attack.
My incap tooltip is 22k The people I fight take incap chew it then spit it back out1
