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If Zos upgraded the server would you happily spend more money on the game?
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NaomiHutt✭✭✭✭Yes, because I do enjoy the game.LifeIsAGrave wrote: »I've had this theory discussion with various friends, and I have a theory that the NA and EU servers are one and the same. When you experience peak population/new DLC performance while adventuring in empty, unpopulated, off-time areas and zones, I come to believe this even more. What if we're all running around on the same Master server - just in different "server" instances. And legality issues the prevents the disclosure of such earth-shattering unfoldings.
Imagine if that was the cause for the majority excessive performance issues.
I could just be talking out of my rear end, but I really start to question it, often. Maybe I'm just being paranoid. Or am I?
Haha, I honestly think this is just paranoia, I believe they are two different mega servers, one located in the US and maybe the EU one is located in Germany or a near by country.
That's just my guess going by ping.0 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, because I do enjoy the game.*sigh* EU server is located in Germany. Frankfurt IIRC. Jeezus people.1 -
Qwazzy✭✭✭✭Time for a re-release.Smallscale/Solo player on multiple servers
PC North America - CharactersAD Sorcerer - PvP 16
AD Templar - PvP 33
AD Nightblade - PvP 17
AD Dragonknight - PvP 19
AD Necromancer - PvP 22
EP Sorcerer - PvP 20
EP Templar - PvP 21
EP Nightblade - PvP 20
DC Sorcerer - PvP 16
DC Templar - PvP 24
DC Nightblade - PvP 18Xbox North America - CharactersAD Sorcerer - PvP 32
AD Sorcerer - PvP 20
AD Sorcerer - PvP 14
AD Templar - PvP 41
AD Templar - PvP 16
AD Templar - PvP 14
AD Warden - PvP 29
AD Nightblade - PvP 27
AD Dragonknight - PvP 18
AD Necromancer - PvP 14Xbox Europe - CharactersAD Sorcerer - PvP 42
AD Templar - PvP 36
EP Sorcerer - PvP 160 -
NaomiHutt✭✭✭✭Yes, because I do enjoy the game.Sylvermynx wrote: »*sigh* EU server is located in Germany. Frankfurt IIRC. Jeezus people.
Well I'm not sure where it is located, that was just a guess that it might me, could be anywhere in Europe.0 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, because I do enjoy the game.All you had to do was search on the forum for where it's located.0 -
Aurie✭✭✭✭✭
✭No reason for us players to fork out money for something ZOS should automatically be providing for a playable game. Actually that's a really bad idea.2 -
Vanos444✭✭✭✭✭No, I never pay for games.No, Never and they don't plan to do anything special to retain players.0 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Just my personal feelings, nothing I can back up with evidence, but uh...
I actually feel bad for the employees who work on this game, and the community management.
I'm firmly under the impression that they'd love to give us all the game we want and deserve. I just don't believe they are given the resources to do so.
I believe Zenimax looks at any cost or reinvestment into the game as a loss of revenue, thereby hurting thier profitability.
We are to be milked...and the sad part is most of us are all too happy to be. Even with the state of the game such as it is....getting worse day by day, it seems.
To make money you have to spend money, as the old saying goes. Clever Zos...
So yeah, I feel bad for the employees who are doing what they can with as little as they can.
Worse yet, I feel bad for us players who just want this amazing game to not only live up to it's potential, but just function on the most basic of levels. And why do I get the sinking feeling that that's entirely too much to ask?
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Cundu_Ertur✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭At least I would rethink my current boycott ever since they did Bosmer lore dirty and removed stealth from their racials.
Don't make me rip up your Bosmer Union card.Taking stealth away from the Bosmer is like taking magic away from the Altmer, making Nords allergic to mead, or making Orcs pretty.1 -
eso_lags✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It wont happen. This event is another great example of how zenimax doesnt give a damn about this game. They have let pvp deteriorate into an abysmal, unplayable, dead, wasteland, and as time goes on their neglect shines through to the rest of the game.
I would love for them to fix this mess so I could start playing seriously again, but they just dont care. Its all about money and zos has made things so the people that care about cosmetics, and other crown store items, will pay for them and pay good. Even though many of the items on the crown store should be earned through in game means, but zos chose greed over what is right.
So those people will keep buying crown crates, mounts, costumes, motifs, housing items, houses, skill lines, pets, etc.. etc.. And zos will keep cashing in while we have nothing to show for it except 4 updates a year, that we pay for, that usually cause more issues while the issues of the past updates never get resolved. But at least we get a nice looking zone to run around. I guess eso plus, crown crates, DLC's, chapters, and the entire damn crown store, arent enough to maintain this game correctly.
And those of us that actually want to play a somewhat competitive, working, game will just keep waiting for something to change. They will do the bare minimum as usual and do nothing to right their wrongs. Even something as small as people getting event tickets today while others didnt, I doubt that will be made right. Or something as large as the game simply working as intended, something so many of us have been asking them to fix for 3+ years.
The bottom line is that as long as they keep their pockets fat, and they will, there will be no accountability and nothing will get fixed. Just band aids. But if it did, ya id give them my money.3 -
Cundu_Ertur✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »*sigh* EU server is located in Germany. Frankfurt IIRC. Jeezus people.
Well I'm not sure where it is located, that was just a guess that it might me, could be anywhere in Europe.
The EU server is apparently a TRS-80 hidden in the basement of an old Soviet Red Army base near Pripyat networked with the internet via tin-cans and string wired to a 2400 baud modem.Taking stealth away from the Bosmer is like taking magic away from the Altmer, making Nords allergic to mead, or making Orcs pretty.3 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, because I do enjoy the game.Cundu_Ertur wrote: »Sylvermynx wrote: »*sigh* EU server is located in Germany. Frankfurt IIRC. Jeezus people.
Well I'm not sure where it is located, that was just a guess that it might me, could be anywhere in Europe.
The EU server is apparently a TRS-80 hidden in the basement of an old Soviet Red Army base near Pripyat networked with the internet via tin-cans and string wired to a 2400 baud modem.
*snerk* Great one!0 -
almightyalfo✭✭✭Yes, because I do enjoy the game.I love this game, but I won't give another penny until they fix the performance issues.
So, yeah, I will eventually re-subscribe IF the situation becomes better.Edited by almightyalfo on November 15, 2019 3:50AMPC-EU
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My Characters [All CP 810+]:
Aeriel Nightvale (Bosmer StamDK) - "Stormproof" - Crafter
Ranzaiq Longclaw (Khajiit StamPlar) - "The Merciless" - Stamina DD (PVE/PVP)
Freiya Winterborn (Nord StamDen) - "Paragon" - Stamina DD (PVP)
Rayna the Desecrator (Dunmer StamNecro) - "Sunspire Saint" - Stamina DD (PVE)
Heals-Many-Scars (Argonian MagPlar) - "Sunspire Saint" - Healer (PVE)
Burgdul gro-Burek (Orc StamDK) - "Thane of Falkreath" - Tank (PVE)
Erisa gro-Burek (Orc StamSorc) - "Orderly" - Stamina DD (PVP)
Auguste Valeine (Breton MagPlar) - "Stormproof" - Magicka DD (PVE)1 -
Vanos444✭✭✭✭✭No, I never pay for games.dcam86b14_ESO wrote: »It's not a server issue...it's the engine
Excatly! They love using those outdated game engine back from TES1.0 -
joseayalac✭✭✭✭✭
✭If they fix the servers they can take all my money.I guess dreaming doesn't hurt0 -
SirAndy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If they fix the servers they can take all my money.The problem has never been the hardware though ...
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Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Kindly avoid posting such posts,
Not sure what is running in players mind and ZOS do not have a s**t about this stuff!0 -
rpa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If they fix the performance, maybe. But performance aside, there is also bugs, quality of updates and slimy monetization which do not encourage support.
I'd expect the activity finder or guild history access should not demand huge hardware resources so the core problem likely is not hardware.Edited by rpa on November 15, 2019 6:13AM0 -
pod88kk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If they respected their customers, they would have upgraded the servers already.
At the moment we're just held by the short and curlies because of the friends we've made or how much money/ time we've spent on this game so far.
They see us as something that pays their unearned wages and nothing more3 -
dakkiii✭✭✭No, I never pay for games.They already take my money and haven't done much for fixing the problems that have dragged for years.1
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themaddaedra✭✭✭✭✭
✭Server stabilization is definitely needed but at this point it won't save this game for me. Not after seeing same bugs here and there for 3 years. They would have to invest into a huge optimization/fix schedule for me to feel like paying again which i'm entirely sure they will never do.
We are talking about a company that can't fix getting stuck in combat on Archcustodian for 3 years, let alone fixing an entire game.PC|EU1 -
Contaminate✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, I never pay for games.Not for this game, so long as the predatory marketing continues getting worse
If they ever started adhering to ethics, then we could talk1 -
Yes, because I do enjoy the game.I will. But I won't give them a single coin anymore if they won't upgrade the servers. If next updates include more styles, sets, dyes, pets, recipes, horses, houses, stories, skill "balancing" etc. instead of stability improvements, I'll finally quit. Tired of reading excuses.0 -
AlienSlof✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I would consider getting ESO+ but not buy crowns.I would happily take ESO+ again if they actually upgraded the servers and kept them stable. Probably wouldn't buy crowns separately any more simply because the CS stuff seems to be getting increasingly shoddy. I make free mods of better quality, to be honest.RIP Atherton, my beautiful little gentle friend, my Shining Light. I will miss you forever. Without you I am a hollow shell.0 -
LuxLunae✭✭✭✭✭This is a problem with the Queue system they have.. its either bad code or memory problems...
Something to do with the dungeon finder is causing the crashes end of freking story...
Revert back to the old one or rewrite a new one... the one they currently have is utter junk...
Lets see wth can be causing this...
STOP WITH HAVING TO LET PEOPLE CLICK ACCEPT AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME JUST MAKE THE DAMN PARTY!!!
LET US THE DAMN PLAYERS DECIDE WHETHER TO KICK THE AFK PLAYER OR NOT!!!
STOP THAT BS WITH " PLAYER DID NOT ACCEPT" JUST STOP IT!!! REMOVE THAT JUNK!!!
WE GOT FRECKING GUILDS !! WE CAN ADD PEOPLE IF NEED BE!!!0 -
gatekeeper13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, I never pay for games.I voted NO, not because I never pay for games but because I dont see the option
"No, because I dont like the current state of the game in general."
Also, having 4/5 possible answers as YES is incorrect.Edited by gatekeeper13 on November 15, 2019 9:32AM2 -
FierceSam✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I am currently an ESO+ subscriber
I subscribe because I like this game.
I expect my subscription to pay for a working infrastructure.
Currently ZOS are not delivering this.5 -
Vicarra✭✭✭✭✭You missed an option, because you're assuming that ZOS doesn't have the money at present to fund improvements. ZOS has been using this game as a cash cow to please their shareholders and fund their other games in development for a long time now and it's hugely profitable for them. Otherwise they wouldn't have spent a few million dollars on a freakin' superbowl ad. I would like to see even a fraction of the massive revenues they get from this game used to hire more actual developers and QA testers so they can stop releasing content when it's broken just to hit their arbitrary release dates. I would like to see the years-long bugs and broken things in this game finally fixed. I would like them to stop taking our money to fund games we might not actually play, and use it to improve the one we actually love enough to spaff our money on and stop treating us like mugs with limitless cash and patience.PAWS - Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff!
Haakon Stormblade - Nord Illusionist, Dwemer scholar, Horse Whisperer, Bringer of Storms9
