Would this notebook be able to run ESO at ultra setting?

pollywogs1970 · November 2019

Hi everyone,

Right now, I am using a Lenovo Idea Centre Y900-341SZ with three monitors. Unfortunately, I have to use lower settings for video

Processor
7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-7700K Processor (4.20GHz 8MB)
Operating system
Windows 10 Home
Graphics
AMD Radeon™ RX 480 8GB
Memory
16GB DDR4 2133 MHz
Storage
1TB 7200 RPM + 128GB PCIe SSD

I am planning to purchase a notebook that is made many years ago.

MSI GT83 TITAN-014
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C94LMRL/ref=pe_3681270_451756800_em_1p_0_lm
Display: 18.4" Full HD Wide View IPS-Level Non Reflection | Operating System: Win 10 Multi-language
Processor: Core i7-8850H Hexa-Core (6 Cores) 2.6GHz
Graphics: Dual GeForce GTX1080 [SLI] 16G GDDR5X (8GB each)
Memory (RAM): 32GB (16G*2) DDR4 2666MHz 4 Sockets; Max Memory 64GB | Storage: Super RAID 4 512GB SSD (NVMe) [256GB *2]+1TB (SATA) 7200rpm

Since it is going to be around $3,000, I wanted to make sure it can run ESO at ultra settings.

I hope to get some feedback, since I am not really knowledgeable in computer hardware

Thank you everyone.

casparian · November 2019

Why are you buying a notebook in order to run max settings on three monitors? You would get better performance for less money with a desktop.

pollywogs1970 · November 2019

casparian wrote: »

Why are you buying a notebook in order to run max settings on three monitors? You would get better performance for less money with a desktop.

Because I travel a lot and having a desktop with me is not an option. The closest would be this MSI notebook because it have big screen and a nice keyboard.

StShoot · November 2019

well whatever notebook/pc you have you wont be able to conect to eso server (its a feature)

majulook · November 2019

casparian wrote: »

Why are you buying a notebook in order to run max settings on three monitors? You would get better performance for less money with a desktop.

You can get a Desktop with better specs for half that price.

Lady_Linux · November 2019

YES. THAT should run max settings no problem

you can get nearly max settings out of ryzen 5 2400g APU and that notebook is way more than that...

pollywogs1970 · December 2019

I have read from many places that SLI will cause problem in this game? Can anyone verify that?

seerevaloc · December 2019

Mate, exactly due to nature of my life I'm using laptops too.
My machine is Asus ROG Strix GL702VSK
GTX1070, 32GB RAM

I'm playing almost everything in Ultra Ultra settings @ 2K or 4K

Except ESO. GeForce Experience auto setting to 4K super ultra.
But thanks to IDK what, having incredible FPS drops in intensive moments (VSS Nahviin, etc.)

So I'm currently playing with "0" particles, 25 meters visibility, SSAO, 1600x900 @ SSD disk for stable 75FPS+
ESO is just have super worse optimization using system resources and absurdly greedy.
Bad codes. So you probably need 2x GPU to run it just 1080.

Czekoludek · December 2019

Yes but mind that if you have any problems on your notebook, there is a huge chance that ESO support will tell you that it is because you have laptop graphic card. Even with my rtx2070 support tells me that my problem in game is because of my graphic card. You will truly hate their support after couple responses like that.

huntgod_ESO · December 2019

Good lord that thing weighs 12+ lbs...

I don't even want to think about the battery life or frying your *** from the heat it's going to give off...

ESO is actually not very well optimized so overkill in the hard ware department is not likely to bring much better performance.

I'd suggest a more modest laptop that plays the game in average settings and taking the $2,000 you will save to put into a decent desktop for home. I just can't imagine lugging around a 12-13lb laptop...uhg. I have a little 4lb HP Envy, that runs everything I need, well and I still hate dragging it around.

pollywogs1970 · December 2019

seerevaloc wrote: »

Mate, exactly due to nature of my life I'm using laptops too.
My machine is Asus ROG Strix GL702VSK
GTX1070, 32GB RAM

I'm playing almost everything in Ultra Ultra settings @ 2K or 4K

Except ESO. GeForce Experience auto setting to 4K super ultra.
But thanks to IDK what, having incredible FPS drops in intensive moments (VSS Nahviin, etc.)

So I'm currently playing with "0" particles, 25 meters visibility, SSAO, 1600x900 @ SSD disk for stable 75FPS+
ESO is just have super worse optimization using system resources and absurdly greedy.
Bad codes. So you probably need 2x GPU to run it just 1080.

Thank you for your detail response. So basically, you only have one GPU and you can run a lot of other games on ultra settings?

vgabor · December 2019

seerevaloc wrote: »

Mate, exactly due to nature of my life I'm using laptops too.
My machine is Asus ROG Strix GL702VSK
GTX1070, 32GB RAM

I'm playing almost everything in Ultra Ultra settings @ 2K or 4K

Except ESO. GeForce Experience auto setting to 4K super ultra.
But thanks to IDK what, having incredible FPS drops in intensive moments (VSS Nahviin, etc.)

So I'm currently playing with "0" particles, 25 meters visibility, SSAO, 1600x900 @ SSD disk for stable 75FPS+
ESO is just have super worse optimization using system resources and absurdly greedy.
Bad codes. So you probably need 2x GPU to run it just 1080.

ESO is cpu intensive, you need a powerful cpu to play on high fps, the gpu matter much less.

pollywogs1970 · December 2019

vgabor wrote: »

seerevaloc wrote: »

Mate, exactly due to nature of my life I'm using laptops too.
My machine is Asus ROG Strix GL702VSK
GTX1070, 32GB RAM

I'm playing almost everything in Ultra Ultra settings @ 2K or 4K

Except ESO. GeForce Experience auto setting to 4K super ultra.
But thanks to IDK what, having incredible FPS drops in intensive moments (VSS Nahviin, etc.)

So I'm currently playing with "0" particles, 25 meters visibility, SSAO, 1600x900 @ SSD disk for stable 75FPS+
ESO is just have super worse optimization using system resources and absurdly greedy.
Bad codes. So you probably need 2x GPU to run it just 1080.

ESO is cpu intensive, you need a powerful cpu to play on high fps, the gpu matter much less.

So basically the newer the CPU, the better?

Ysbriel · December 2019

I think you would be better off using the hadron collider to get the best performance out of this game.

kojou · December 2019

I recently upgraded from an old AMD 7870 to an RTX 2070 and was actually disappointed with the difference in frame rates. The new GPU ran a bit better in some situations, but about the same in others. In other games and benchmarks it was night and day.

My conclusion: There is a bottle neck that has nothing to do with my PC.

I travel as well, but I don't want to lug around anything over 5 pounds, so I found something of reasonable weight and specs... If I was buying a new one at this point then I would get the lightest one possible with a 1660 TI or RTX 2060 in it. It will likely give you as much frame rate as anything "better" due to other bottlenecks in this game.

Then use the other $2k you save on something else.

PS, I wouldn't invest in SLI. There is a reason why Nvidia is moving away from it.

seerevaloc · December 2019

pollywogs1970 wrote: »

seerevaloc wrote: »

Mate, exactly due to nature of my life I'm using laptops too.
My machine is Asus ROG Strix GL702VSK
GTX1070, 32GB RAM

I'm playing almost everything in Ultra Ultra settings @ 2K or 4K

Except ESO. GeForce Experience auto setting to 4K super ultra.
But thanks to IDK what, having incredible FPS drops in intensive moments (VSS Nahviin, etc.)

So I'm currently playing with "0" particles, 25 meters visibility, SSAO, 1600x900 @ SSD disk for stable 75FPS+
ESO is just have super worse optimization using system resources and absurdly greedy.
Bad codes. So you probably need 2x GPU to run it just 1080.

Thank you for your detail response. So basically, you only have one GPU and you can run a lot of other games on ultra settings?

Hi, correct. Some of them I have played with 4k Ultra Settings from my Steam Library are:
Rise of The Tomb Raider, Shadow of Tomb Raider, The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, over 17000 on 3DMark (Futureproof), ARK: Survival, DiRT 4, Skyrim SE, Far Cry Primal, Metro 2033 Redux, Sid Meier's Civ. VI, Steep, Subnautica, Warframe, Tom Clancy's The Division

And ESO Engine isn't any newer or state of art latest cutting edge technology just found last year

It's old & obsolete.

I'm commenting here just to tell you "it doesn't worth" mate, just buy something around 950-1200$ and play on low settings which in any case eso will waste your resources. It's ofc up to you, but since you've created this topic, here's my 2 cents.

vgabor wrote: »

seerevaloc wrote: »

Mate, exactly due to nature of my life I'm using laptops too.
My machine is Asus ROG Strix GL702VSK
GTX1070, 32GB RAM

I'm playing almost everything in Ultra Ultra settings @ 2K or 4K

Except ESO. GeForce Experience auto setting to 4K super ultra.
But thanks to IDK what, having incredible FPS drops in intensive moments (VSS Nahviin, etc.)

So I'm currently playing with "0" particles, 25 meters visibility, SSAO, 1600x900 @ SSD disk for stable 75FPS+
ESO is just have super worse optimization using system resources and absurdly greedy.
Bad codes. So you probably need 2x GPU to run it just 1080.

ESO is cpu intensive, you need a powerful cpu to play on high fps, the gpu matter much less.

I'm sorry but my CPU is enough for running ESO lol, what is ESO? It's *** requesting 2x GPU for running this game basically doesn't have anything special about design, graphic/physics engine or as shader, AA, etc. comparing to other AAA games. Even their stated "Optimal Hardware" cannot play it with stable 40 FPS in most combat scenes unless you're killing Bull Netch out of Deshaan. It's a wasteful and greedy use of hardware resources & bad coding. Very old & inefficient graphic engine for such a massive-scale game world. Accept that, it's not my system.

Thanks, regards.

EvilAutoTech · December 2019

huntgod_ESO wrote: »

Good lord that thing weighs 12+ lbs...

I don't even want to think about the battery life or frying your *** from the heat it's going to give off...

ESO is actually not very well optimized so overkill in the hard ware department is not likely to bring much better performance.

I'd suggest a more modest laptop that plays the game in average settings and taking the $2,000 you will save to put into a decent desktop for home. I just can't imagine lugging around a 12-13lb laptop...uhg. I have a little 4lb HP Envy, that runs everything I need, well and I still hate dragging it around.

I used to have an original Compaq Portable. We called it "luggable". Damn thing was close to 30 pounds.

Acrolas · December 2019

Austin Evans has a new video out about 10th gen Intel laptops and Project Athena, focusing on the Dell XPS. I'd recommend checking out that laptop line in a store to get a feel for it. Compare screen sizes, peripherals, and battery life. It's impressive how thin they are for what they include, particularly the improved integrated graphics. But you might be more interested in a comparable Ryzen build.

I mean, Intel is still good but AMD's price-to-performance cannot be ignored. If you already have a substantial budget, you can probably get the best Ryzen core count and best Ryzen single core performance. I'm not sure if that's still the 3700U on laptops, but that's one of the latest.

Going back to Intel, ProArt StudioBook One is also on the horizon which just seems like an amazing product to throw money at once it hits retail. It's likely also going to push older Asus products' prices down so it might be advantageous to wait a quarter or two to upgrade your hardware.

But regarding the linked MSI, do not pay $3000 for a laptop with integrated 802.11g and a hybrid drive. You want 802.11ac and an entirely solid state drive and you will just be spending more money to get them.

Ragnork · December 2019

I have a desktop i7-4790 coupled with GTX 1070 and struggle to maintain 60fps
I also have a MSI laptop; i7 7700 with GTX 1060 and easily maintain 60fps - all be it the fan does go a little wild.
My wife (last year christmas gift) has an MSI laptop with i9 8950 with GTX 1070 easily maintains 100fps - all be the fan goes a little wild