If you are playing on PS4 your account should transfer, along with your characters, etc. to the new PS5, though ultimately that is up to Sony not Zenimax. If you are playing on XBone and move to the new X console, the same should apply.

They will never offer a transfer from PS4 to next X console, or Xbone to PS5, again though that is on Sony and Microsoft not Zenimax.

david_m_18b16_ESO wrote: »

Will ESO be compatible with PS5 at all ?

Both consoles simply upgrades cpu and gpu, add more memory and SSD so they will be fully backward comparable.
More less demanding games can simply be released as an PS4 / 5 version

FierceSam wrote: »

It is totally in ZOS’s interest to enable players on next gen consoles to play on the existing servers with their existing accounts.

It is totally down to the console developers to ensure this is possible.

Definitely. It really is very straightforward. Either both consoles can access the same server infrastructure or they can't. I would be shocked if they couldn't both access the same ESO backend as that would be a disaster for the initial period where games are released on both the new and old platforms. And it would be pretty bad if PS5 players couldn't play coop games with their PS4 PSN friends because their versions ran on different infrastructure.

Didn't rich or somebody mention on stream this year that cross platform was something they were looking into? Might have been before elsweyr. They said something along the line of "We heard peoples outcry for cross platform and it is something we are looking into down the road". Could be something they will do here.

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There's a difference between "having values" and "understanding the situation".

No matter what you feel about it, the fact of the matter is that all these "digital" things we buy in online games are ephemeral piles of bits, that only exist until the company or server goes poof. Legally, they are literally worth nothing.

(Check out the fine print on any of those "win all the mounts/houses/whatever" contests - the prize listing defines the value of the prize as $0.)

I’d be happy just taking the stats, crown store stuff and achievements over.

Items would be great but can understand why it would be trickier

apri wrote: »

nafensoriel wrote: »

david_m_18b16_ESO wrote: »

Will ESO be compatible with PS5 at all ?

All PS4 games are going to be PS5 Compatible according to Sony.

We better wait and see if and what will be true about that. PS3 was sold with PS2 backward compatibility at first, too, but that was not quite a story of success in the end. In the marketing days before PS4's release there were quite a lot of rumors around how we could keep on playing our PS3 games, yet in the end it was not quite as straight-forward as us naive gamers hoped it to be. In the case of ESO, not only the game but also the netcode and the whole server architecture need to be compatible, as well. Only time can tell if or how we play ESO on PS5. If for whatever reason new servers are required, I'm skeptical we can keep our progress (both in terms of character development and in-game purchases). But we'll see.

Unlike the PS3->PS4 transition the PS4->PS5 transition has been relatively confirmed to NOT include major redesigns of its architecture. While the parts themselves are being upgraded and it is safe to assume they have enhanced and built upon the software and OS side of things they have not completely ripped out the guts and replaced them.
Sony developers have point-blank stated it will be backward compatible multiple times.

I can, personally, feel safe saying that 99.9% of PS4 games will work on the PS5 due to the fundamental shift both hardware design and software design have gone through in the last 20 years. What we started to do then was modularize code. Sony took longer but the PS4 elements can be pulled, polished, and replaced just like most elements of windows or modern game engines.

TLDR: Long gone are the days we coded so *** poorly that every new version required a complete restart. The PS5 is just more hardware and some extra features(like hybrid ray-tracing) bolted onto the software.

apri wrote: »

/snipsnip

I just wanted to comment on Bethesda reselling things.. this is both kinda true and mostly not.

Bethesda is just weird in that they sell their tech demos and build their tech demos into their games.

IE they'll upgrade their engine to 64 bit and add some elements to their engine and then sell "Skyrim special edition" to basically pay for the modifications they've made.

Is this ethical etc etc? Not my place to say.. but it seems to be their odd quirk company wise.

Tigerseye wrote: »

Acrolas wrote: »

Tigerseye wrote: »

Not really the point, is it?

The OP just wants to be able to transfer the stuff, he has paid to access, over to another platform, if necessary.

He's not asking for a refund, or anything.

This thread demands a feature that was never part of the agreed-upon terms. By not having ownership of the account, we waive all claim to negotiation and accept all Services as-is.

The time to take issue with the agreement is before you agree to it, not at any point afterward. Changes in functionality and technology, or features in other products have no bearing on the terms of service for this product.

OK, another irrelevant point.

The OP is merely asking that ZoS allow people to move their account from one console to another.

Otherwise, if the next gen of their current console is worse than the next gen of another manufacturer's console, they will either have to buy an inferior console, or lose all their items and progress.

Of course, ZoS don't have to allow this, but it would be pretty anti-consumer to not do it.

I'm not sure what people don't understand here?

Hard to imagine you're all trolling, given that some of the answers are extremely detailed, if totally off course.

That's essentially all I'm saying, surprised at the backlash tbh

apri wrote: »

Acrolas wrote: »

As some console players have probably never touched PTS, they may not realize what it is.

That's so true actually. I wish there was some kind of PTS for consoles, too. Thanks for the helpful explanation!

I'm still not 100% sold on the PS4 to PS5 transfer. I'd be happy if it goes that smoothly as it was pointed out in this thread not just for the sake of ESO but the many other great games I'd like to keep playing but there's more to it than just hardware. There is also a huge business behind re-releases of games on as many platforms as possible and Bethesda is one of the most famous players when it comes to bringing Skyrim to each and every possible device (for another fee obviously).

So even if technically there's no barrier in place, it's not safe to say it's really gonna happen unless reality proves so. We have been deceived so many times, I rather believe in what I see now. And if there's just a chance to re-sell a game, well Bethesda has a track record to like such a thing.

In this context, should they add a fresh client and a new megaserver for PS5 (and next Xbox), chances are everything will be rebooted. They can sell once more what they sold before (the base game and everything in the crown store). They can also offer a one-time character transfer because in @Acrolas metaphor there will be a fresh fish bowl in place. They have done such a thing in the past with PC to console migration and at least that should be possible once again. If that's not needed because PS4 to PS5 goes smoother than assumed by me, the better. Pardon my skeptical mindset in these money-hungry times.

Again this mindset regarding transfers and new platfroms is entirely unfounded. The ps4 to ps5 transition is in no way comparable here. Everything about the backwards compatibility situation with ps3 and ps2 games was directly a result of how foreign the ps3s architecture was vs the ps2s, likewise the ps4s more practical pc hardware architecture compared to ps3s uniquely proprietary chipset and fabrication. Backwards compatibility was bound by either elaborate emulation, with is taxing and innacurate or hardware powered which introduces additional costs in manufacturing the hardware.

The ps4 to ps5 is absolutely positively no different than playing the game on a gtx 1060 w/ a ryzen zen vs a gtx 1660 and a zen 2 cpu. These pc specs are not literal ofc, just to point out the only barrier in place with backwards compatibility moving forward in the console industry is a factor of pc specs and how said specs can run a game at a certain graphical fidelity.

Eso on ps4 vs ps5 is exclusively a matter of running the game on a higher end pc. There are no new servers, there are no new points of transfer or new platforms to shift players to. Eso on ps5 is a mater of fact, not a mater of speculation, unless zenimax deems the game no longer profitable and and sooner shuts the game down rather than putting it on a new console, not putting it on ps5 is simply money lost. The only interfacing that Zos has engage in is learning the new consoles ui systems and integrate them to eso accordingly, which is entirely a code issue only, and a simple one at that.

Database integrity must be a really hard concept for mouth breathers to grasp, huh.