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Nerf Dragonknight's Wings
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D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
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I thought the same thing. They could have made some reflectable skills non reflectable or, at the time, buffed force pulse to make it more appealing.0 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭50% damage mitigation is crazy Dk's are already tanky enough not sure why it is still even in the game. Completely shuts down any range class.
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MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nerf BoL! - completely shuts down any ranged build (until sorc has magicka)!
Nerf shield stacking! - completely shuts down ANY build (until sorc has magicka)!
Nerf cleanse! - completely shuts down any dot build! (until templar has magicka)!
Nerf cloak! - completely shuts down any build if you don't have detect pots!
Nevertheless, I may admit that combination of 30k resists+wings+BRP DW brings a sweet feeling of parity when that surly glass cannon sorc can do nothing and you shrug off frags, and that cancerous resto light attack+ele weapon spam.6 -
MajBludd✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Holy ***, enough with the god damned nerf threads. I dont think I've ever said this on forums but please stfu about nerfs.5 -
NagyPako✭✭Have you tried to imagine your skills being increased to 4950 and reduced by roughly 45-50%? pls do it and keep l2p ing after that.0
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Hixtory✭✭✭✭Varaug_Gaming wrote: »no way this man is actually serious
I know right:
DK so far have got:
Flames of oblivion sucks
Wings is meh (Is like taking out STREAK from SORC, Shadow disguise from NB, Self heals from templars)
ALL AROUND increase cost to all worth it skills
DOT damage nerfed
[snip]
[Edit for minor baiting and profanity]
Edited by ZOS_Bill on November 5, 2019 8:31PM5 -
Luckylancer✭✭✭✭✭If a dk player mentions wing's damage reduction in a debate about melee vs projectile skills, it is not a bad skill.
Warden shild is annoying for range only builds too. Let dks have this version of wings.1 -
TrinityBreaker✭✭✭✭✭I would support a revert to the original DK wings... reflect was sooooo cool. However that was 100% damage mitigation for 6? projectiles so unlikely to make the nerf-herders happy. Maybe get up closer? LOL XD
100% damage mitigation would imply that it reflected EVERYTHING for 6 seconds. That was not the case, it was 4 projectiles and/or 6 seconds whichever came first.Ebonheart for life.
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Khajiit Stam Sorc - Ji'saad Ranajiradh AR 30
Khajiit Mag DK - Kesjhad
Khajiit Magblade - Ji'sava Ak'nir
Fat Khajiit Stamplar - Dro'haniAk'nir - AR 36
Khajiit Stam Dk - Diego Ri'jhad - AR 49
Khajiit Magplar - Dro'nara Ak'nir
Khajiit StamBlade - Ri'artharr Ak'nir
Fat Khajiit Stamden - Dro'hani Warbreaker
Argonian Stam DK - Tiberius Demetros
Khajiit Stamplar - Diëgo Ri'jhad
Fat Khajiit Stam DK - Drö'hani Ak'nir/Dances-With-Alkosh
Khajiit Magden - Arctic Mayhem2 -
MyPrist✭✭✭Some DK skills do not just work for 5+ month.
I get 0% dps to heavy attack from restro staff for example. But it must get 50%.
Even necromancer get from his passives buff too it like 15% + 1500 oenetration + 3% dps when skill in slot + crit for skills slot on execute. And they have it to all, not only heavy attack.
We have ZERO !!! 0%, skill just do not work !!!
And do not work correct with lightning staff too.
Wings is such trash now, that i even do not care.
50% metigation for range attacks?
It is useless !!! If damage is smaller than sorc damage shield, it is useless, if it is more, than that - you will need to heal. So spend 8 k + mana for that. A lot if attacks ignore wings !!!
If there even will not be any more wings - do not really care. Trash skill that was so owernerfed, that is useless now, but only with good animation.
Vampire skill negates 75+% all damage, gives speed run + stun protect.
Ibetter slot it than this trash.
Do not even care, skill is useless now.
But fix other our skills already !!!
They do not work for 5+ month!!!
It is not even funny !!!Edited by MyPrist on November 5, 2019 12:50PM0 -
Ragnarock41✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Wings is not useless, however its not really worth slotting either due to high cost and low impact. It seems cheap enough for magDks, I disagree for stam though.
Think about it, for much less of a sustain hit I can slot BRP dual wield + quick cloak and get:
major expedition
a small AoE dot
major protection
major evasion
Or I can slot wings and get:
%50 protectile mitigation(does not include dots or other side effects)
2 seconds snare immunity.
Thats it.
While this is the case saying things like ''wings is overpowered'' is a little ridicilous to me.
Lets talk nerfing cloak and bol and then we can talk nerfing wings.again.
Edited by Ragnarock41 on November 5, 2019 1:20PM2 -
L_Nici✭✭✭✭✭
✭The wings don't need another nerf.
The first one was rightful and I say that as DK player, it was just stupid to reflect a snipe and onehit the sniper with it, even though pretty funny as well.
The wings how they are now are great, the mitigation counters the sniping players still pretty effective and if they don't even dodge after the snipe they get punished by the flamedamage, but not get instakilled by their own snipedamage, it feels more balanced in my opinion and should stay that way, I don't even wish the old wings back.
Also as far as I know the wings don't get used so much anymore. In earlier days they were a must have on the class, and always if something turns into a must have it is propably to strong.PC|EU0 -
ketsparrowhawk✭✭✭✭✭I still prefer hardened armor - am I crazy?
Hardened Armor is basically mandatory on any DK build. You keep HA up 100% during combat. Wings is generally only used reactively in certain situations. 100% uptime wouldn't be possible for most builds. So it's not "Hardened vs Wings".. It's more like "Hardened + Wings vs Hardened + no Wings".0 -
Ragnarock41✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭ketsparrowhawk wrote: »I still prefer hardened armor - am I crazy?
Hardened Armor is basically mandatory on any DK build. You keep HA up 100% during combat. Wings is generally only used reactively in certain situations. 100% uptime wouldn't be possible for most builds. So it's not "Hardened vs Wings".. It's more like "Hardened + Wings vs Hardened + no Wings".
Major resolve sources can not be directly compared to mitigation abilities since every class pretty much has one like hardened armor or get it passively(nightblade).
If you're referring to PvE , sad thing is, both hardened and wings are sort of useless on all builds except tank Dk.Wings was an ability I slotted a lot for vMA, and now its not even worth for that.1 -
jecks33✭✭✭✭✭
✭the OP must be new to the game....
years ago wings reflected everything, ultimates included. Imagine dropping your meteor on a dk XD These wings were overpoweredPC-EU3 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭50% damage mitigation is crazy Dk's are already tanky enough not sure why it is still even in the game. Completely shuts down any range class.
Why complain about 50% mitigation when Wardens can 100% absorb projectiles, including projectile stuns. Wings isn’t bad.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten5 -
Sanguinor2✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Cloak is stronger ranged Damage Mitigation than wings btw. Not only does it reduce the Damage of projectiles fired at you to 0 it also negates ranged ccs and any dots you have on you so first we gotta make cloak not ignore ccs and dots and cut the ranged Mitigation in half then we can nerf wings again you ok with that?Politeness is respecting others.
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Modesty is speaking of oneself without vanity.
Self control is keeping calm even when anger rises.
Sincerity is expressing oneself without concealing ones thoughts.
Honor is keeping ones word.4 -
Aerenel✭✭✭Oh look another nerf thread. As a magsorc main in pvp I hate fighting against DKs with wings but these nerf threads have to stop.
You don't like a skill? A set? A class? Learn the game and figure out a way around it. Stop expecting everything on a silver platter.
Everytime I see nerf threads I just see snowflakes.2 -
El_Borracho✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Nerf wings. At first I thought this was an old thread that somehow got resurrected.
Show us on the doll where the dragonknight hurt you.0 -
Reistr_the_Unbroken✭✭✭✭✭
✭SpiderKnight wrote: »
Every Dk here: Flaps wings hard in op's direction.
OP: Gets knocked back into minecraft.
Rest of forum: Locks door shut.
I have a better idea to toss op in:
Edited by Reistr_the_Unbroken on November 5, 2019 8:25PM1 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭OP plays either a magnb or magsorc.
I wonder if they realised when they pressed post they would become even more unpopular. weird opinion when thinking about the history of this skill and comparative warden skill.0 -
AndyMac✭✭✭✭✭Fun thread - post the most laughably ridiculous nerf call you think of.
Bonus insightful if it appears you don’t actually play the game
Here’s mine:
50% damage mitigation is crazy Dk's are already tanky enough not sure why it is still even in the game. Completely shuts down any range class.
Fixed it lol
Andymac - Magicka DK - EP Grand Overlord - Flawless Conqueror1
