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Class Change Token
MujdatMurdock
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Class change token should be salable in crown store. And also asisstance should have acces to guild store guild bank and also should have rpr section.
I want to share my opinion . ZoS probly thinks, its probly will effect the crown sales. Like riding skill sales like skill line sales like outfit slot etc. If you afraid from that you can reset our riding sikils or skill points doesnt metter. Im sure its not big problem we can make it again. But we cant make achivment again. So you can sell it from high price or just reset our skills , riding skills etc. Doesnt metter we only care our achivmetns. There is not any bad thing about your sales. You can still make profit from it. Its not hard to do it. And there is second option , achivment should bind to account not character. There are always solutuion.
Edited by MujdatMurdock on November 5, 2019 12:44AM I want to share my opinion . ZoS probly thinks, its probly will effect the crown sales. Like riding skill sales like skill line sales like outfit slot etc. If you afraid from that you can reset our riding sikils or skill points doesnt metter. Im sure its not big problem we can make it again. But we cant make achivment again. So you can sell it from high price or just reset our skills , riding skills etc. Doesnt metter we only care our achivmetns. There is not any bad thing about your sales. You can still make profit from it. Its not hard to do it. And there is second option , achivment should bind to account not character. There are always solutuion.
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Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I don’t see the point behind a class change token. It takes longer to level skill lines then it does to get to 50, restarting a new character lets you do both at once.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten15 -
richo262✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mages guild, psijic, shards, lore books, horse, research, motifs, recipes, furniture plans, quests, achievements. There are many reasons why class change tokens are ideal.29 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don’t see the point behind a class change token. It takes longer to level skill lines then it does to get to 50, restarting a new character lets you do both at once.
This. And for the skill lines that take the longest to level up Zos has already chosen to sell them to us.Mages guild, psijic, shards, lore books, horse, research, motifs, recipes, furniture plans, quests, achievements. There are many reasons why class change tokens are ideal.
And Zos already sells the skill lines to us so the idea is nullified. The are items that are not lost and do not need to be on every character. If Zos chose to sold it I doubt it would be a at a price many would pay. Add up all the class lines plus horse training and logic would dictate the price would be at least that much if not more.
it really does seem Zos has no interest in offering a class change token. It is not something I have seen in many major MMORPGs so I am expecting the industry has a vested interest in having us level up multiple characters.1 -
gatekeeper13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I don’t see the point behind a class change token. It takes longer to level skill lines then it does to get to 50, restarting a new character lets you do both at once.
A class change token would let you keep your current character with all the achievements and skill points and just change class. When you make a new character, you start from zero, without achievements and with zero skill points. And if getting to lvl 50 is a matter of 2 days, gathering enough skill points is trouble.
I have a 810cp Orc Templar tank who has completed many vet DLC dungeons, is a Grand Master Crafter, has a fully trained mount and knows lots of styles and recipes. I wanted to make him a Dragonknight but guess what? I can't. And I have to switch characters all the time with my new Argonian DK in order to do crafting writs and make food and potions.
Edited by gatekeeper13 on November 4, 2019 6:12PM19 -
Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭gatekeeper13 wrote: »I don’t see the point behind a class change token. It takes longer to level skill lines then it does to get to 50, restarting a new character lets you do both at once.
A class change token would let you keep your current character with all the achievements and skill points and just change class. When you make a new character, you start from zero, without achievements and with zero skill points. And if getting to lvl 50 is a matter of 2 days, gathering enough skill points is trouble.
I have a 810cp Orc Templar tank who has completed many vet DLC dungeons, is a Grand Master Crafter, has a fully trained mount and knows lots of styles and recipes. I wanted to make him a Dragonknight but guess what? I can't. And I have to switch characters all the time with my new Argonian DK in order to do crafting writs and make food and potions.
That’s a very long-winded answer.
You could have just said:
“I don’t want to spend the time for the added skill points and inventory it takes to round out alchemy and provisioning on my Templar Tank.”
Edited by Taleof2Cities on November 4, 2019 7:19PM2 -
RefLiberty✭✭✭✭✭
✭I believe the main reason for that is because they want you to keep you playing, to level new characters, thus spend more time in game and playing. I do believe that is the main reason, and the as simply as it sounds, it is the truth behind it.
If you have the ability to change name, race and respec, there are no technical reasons not to be able to change class.
Also, the achievements should be account wide. You did it, you earned it, there is no reason to be character bind.
Edited by RefLiberty on November 4, 2019 7:31PM3 -
Langeston✭✭✭✭✭
✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »gatekeeper13 wrote: »I don’t see the point behind a class change token. It takes longer to level skill lines then it does to get to 50, restarting a new character lets you do both at once.
A class change token would let you keep your current character with all the achievements and skill points and just change class. When you make a new character, you start from zero, without achievements and with zero skill points. And if getting to lvl 50 is a matter of 2 days, gathering enough skill points is trouble.
I have a 810cp Orc Templar tank who has completed many vet DLC dungeons, is a Grand Master Crafter, has a fully trained mount and knows lots of styles and recipes. I wanted to make him a Dragonknight but guess what? I can't. And I have to switch characters all the time with my new Argonian DK in order to do crafting writs and make food and potions.
That’s a very long-winded answer.
You could have just said:
“I don’t want to spend the time for the added skill points and inventory it takes to round out alchemy and provisioning on my Templar Tank.”
I have a feeling there's more to it than that. I'm lucky that my main toon/crafter also happens to be my favorite class that I play the most. I have a Sorc that I leveled that I don't play at all anymore because I can't stand the class — it would suck if that was my main and I had to log out, log back in, [do whatever I need to do] log out, and log back in again (just to craft a 9 trait set or some other such nonsense that only my main toon can do.) I completely understand the sentiment, and if that Sorc was my main I'd want the option to pay to change it's class to something I actually enjoy playing.2 -
Number_51✭✭✭✭✭RefLiberty wrote: »I believe the main reason for that is because they want you to keep you playing, to level new characters, thus spend more time in game and playing. I do believe that is the main reason, and the as simply as it sounds, it is the truth behind it.
If you have the ability to change name, race and respec, there are no technical reasons not to be able to change class.
Also, the achievements should be account wide. You did it, you earned it, there is no reason to be character bind.
No reason? My pacifist character did not kill 1 of anything, much less 100 of everything. Would be pretty disappointing to see "you killed X of ThisThing" on that character.1 -
MujdatMurdock✭✭✭Im playing eso from the beta. And my main is sorc. I tried dps, healer, tank most off achivment done by that character. And after 6 year i decided that sorc is useless for some pve content . if i create new character who will see my achivments ? whats the point gathering achivments if no one see that ? You saying like after got GOD SLAYER achivment ı changed my character ... There is no one to do that. There is only two solution one off them all achivments must be bind to each other or class change token. Cuz no one doest not allow to me get in group cuz ım stam sorc tank and ı dont have buff for them. What can ı doo ? I tried like 3 year for get MSA Inf staff over 100 times ı couldnt get it. Class change token should come to store.Edited by MujdatMurdock on November 4, 2019 8:05PM1
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SirAndy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There are many reasons why class change tokens would be a welcome addition to the game:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/489552/i-think-its-time-for-class-change-tokens/p1
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TheValar85✭✭✭✭✭yeah and i would like to also add that pls allow the mobile vendors to have repair all items just like the rest of teh vendors over 5k crown and no repair options just sell your thigns? LOL
it needs to be added 
And i support the Class Change token 1 trillion %GM Of The Lusty Argonian ERPGM Of THe Alessia Dynasty PVP GuildGM Of The Guardians Of MiddleEarthMy Smiling Emperor Profile Picture: https://ibb.co/bsOM6n2 -
MakeMeUhSamich✭✭✭✭✭IMHO - There are two basic camps on this issue: those that care about achievement points and those that don’t.
Those that do are generally in favor of the option of a class change token/quest.
Those that don’t, for some reason, feel the need to deny those that do the option.
Of course, all of this doesn’t really matter if ZOS is unwilling or unable to provide the option.2 -
BooPerScOOper✭✭✭There are many reasons why class change tokens would be a welcome addition to the game:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/489552/i-think-its-time-for-class-change-tokens/p1
Stop posting logical threads. It makes the hyperbole of the forums watered down3 -
RefLiberty✭✭✭✭✭
✭No reason? My pacifist character did not kill 1 of anything, much less 100 of everything. Would be pretty disappointing to see "you killed X of ThisThing" on that character.
I can agree on that from the RP perspective, it is a valid point. But still, you did after all.
I mean, what do you do, erase from your mind that you have a char and you used it for bloodbath of innocent when you play other character
It is kinda silly to get the amnesia all of the sudden.
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SirDopey✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mages guild, psijic, shards, lore books, horse, research, motifs, recipes, furniture plans, quests, achievements. There are many reasons why class change tokens are ideal.
All of which can be purchased in crown store already....
Lets be honest, ZOS won't put a token on sale that will effectively allow you to not buy 6 other tokens......
Agree with the general sentiment, smart choices can have a new character to 50 in less than 5 hoursNA PC | AD
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Nirntrotter✭✭✭✭✭A class change token would be a huge deal for me because I'm kinda sick of my main class, but all the achievements and eidetic memory etc. are not account wide. Sooo, alternatively, make this stuff acc wide.
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graybeardII✭✭✭For me its my crafter he could be any class but what he is but he has millions in motifs and recipes and trates researched so cant start over so a change token would be nice2
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Gnome_Saiyan✭✭✭It's not like ZOS doesn't want us to have class change tokens. They aren't a thing because money would be lost if they were a thing. There is too much investment in the monetization of alts for class change to happen.
I am sure someone at ZOS has done the math and came to the conclusion that offering class change tokens would severely diminish the sale of additional character slots. With each of those character slots (and I'd guess if you are the type of player who'd buy one of those, you will buy a few more, because why not) comes the sale of the skill lines, the shards, etc for EACH additional character. Potentially. Theoretically. Admittedly.
But now, I get a class change token. Suddenly, I don't need more than 9 character slots. I may not even have to use all 9. If I don't play primarily to farm writ money across 18 alts, then for play diversity I could have less than 9 characters and change the class of one every now and then. Key words being "every now and then."
So take each of those character slot sales, each of them including possible sales of a skill line and shard pack, and weigh that potential profit against the sales of class change tokens. The price of a single token would have to be huge just to offset the loss of all that alt money. Probably not worth it for a token you may only have to buy "every now and then."
Or think of it like this- Most people don't have one 85" flatscreen. They have two to three 48" flatscreens.Roll your Self before you Role yourself1 -
Welkynar✭✭✭ZOS sells curse of vampirism and werewolf bites and their cures so there’s no point in arguing that there is no point in a class change token. Might as well add it if they can, it’s more money.1 -
MujdatMurdock✭✭✭Gnome_Saiyan wrote: »It's not like ZOS doesn't want us to have class change tokens. They aren't a thing because money would be lost if they were a thing. There is too much investment in the monetization of alts for class change to happen.
I am sure someone at ZOS has done the math and came to the conclusion that offering class change tokens would severely diminish the sale of additional character slots. With each of those character slots (and I'd guess if you are the type of player who'd buy one of those, you will buy a few more, because why not) comes the sale of the skill lines, the shards, etc for EACH additional character. Potentially. Theoretically. Admittedly.
But now, I get a class change token. Suddenly, I don't need more than 9 character slots. I may not even have to use all 9. If I don't play primarily to farm writ money across 18 alts, then for play diversity I could have less than 9 characters and change the class of one every now and then. Key words being "every now and then."
So take each of those character slot sales, each of them including possible sales of a skill line and shard pack, and weigh that potential profit against the sales of class change tokens. The price of a single token would have to be huge just to offset the loss of all that alt money. Probably not worth it for a token you may only have to buy "every now and then."
Or think of it like this- Most people don't have one 85" flatscreen. They have two to three 48" flatscreens.
Dude ı already said all things will reset when you use token ( not include achivments ). Thats mean zos will not lose money. And there is second option to achivment should bind to account not character. There are always solutuion.Edited by MujdatMurdock on November 5, 2019 12:44AM0 -
Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭graybeardII wrote: »For me its my crafter he could be any class but what he is but he has millions in motifs and recipes and trates researched so cant start over so a change token would be nice
What does class change do for crafting?
With a class change token, there are no crafting skills to re-level, no crafting skill points to refill, and no crafting passives to reallocate.
Edited by Taleof2Cities on November 5, 2019 1:06AM0 -
Langeston✭✭✭✭✭
✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »graybeardII wrote: »For me its my crafter he could be any class but what he is but he has millions in motifs and recipes and trates researched so cant start over so a change token would be nice
What does class change do for crafting?
With a class change token, there are no crafting skills to re-level, no crafting skill points to refill, and no crafting passives to reallocate.
Reread his comment.
An extreme example is Honor Guard — some of the motif pages sell for nearly a million gold each. Only his main crafter is likely to have the ability to craft it. Furniture & recipes are the same deal, many furniture motifs are tens of thousands each, (hundreds even?) and the 3 gold recipes from the current event were 200k each at one point. It'd be a drag to have to relearn all of that for another toon, no?he has millions in motifs and recipes
[edit] I just realized that I misread your post. I think you misread it too, his point is that a class change token would be welcome & convenient for the reasons you [and I] listed.Edited by Langeston on November 5, 2019 1:41AM0 -
GallantGuardian✭✭✭✭I played dcuo for years ... after the first year they introduced “class change tokens” or as they called them “power change tokens”
We went through years of devs making money on “updating power sets” the power set that was just “updated” was op and everyone flocked to it selling power change tokens.... until the best power wa updated and then was op
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Gnome_Saiyan✭✭✭MujdatMurdock wrote: »Gnome_Saiyan wrote: »It's not like ZOS doesn't want us to have class change tokens. They aren't a thing because money would be lost if they were a thing. There is too much investment in the monetization of alts for class change to happen.
I am sure someone at ZOS has done the math and came to the conclusion that offering class change tokens would severely diminish the sale of additional character slots. With each of those character slots (and I'd guess if you are the type of player who'd buy one of those, you will buy a few more, because why not) comes the sale of the skill lines, the shards, etc for EACH additional character. Potentially. Theoretically. Admittedly.
But now, I get a class change token. Suddenly, I don't need more than 9 character slots. I may not even have to use all 9. If I don't play primarily to farm writ money across 18 alts, then for play diversity I could have less than 9 characters and change the class of one every now and then. Key words being "every now and then."
So take each of those character slot sales, each of them including possible sales of a skill line and shard pack, and weigh that potential profit against the sales of class change tokens. The price of a single token would have to be huge just to offset the loss of all that alt money. Probably not worth it for a token you may only have to buy "every now and then."
Or think of it like this- Most people don't have one 85" flatscreen. They have two to three 48" flatscreens.
Dude ı already said all things will reset when you use token ( not include achivments ). Thats mean zos will not lose money. And there is second option to achivment should bind to account not character. There are always solutuion.
I didn't say anything about achievements. I suggested that class change would cut into the profit ZOS has made monetizing alts. We don't (nor likely ever will) know for sure, because we don't have access to their financials. It's all speculation.Roll your Self before you Role yourself0 -
kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Mages guild, psijic, shards, lore books, horse, research, motifs, recipes, furniture plans, quests, achievements. There are many reasons why class change tokens are ideal.
Getting those is called playing the game. Just start a new character and play the game.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭graybeardII wrote: »For me its my crafter he could be any class but what he is but he has millions in motifs and recipes and trates researched so cant start over so a change token would be nice
If you rolled an alt you do not lose your crafter.1
