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can we please get a jewelry hireling? or stop with the non-deconstructable jewelry drops
Salix_alba
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It makes no sense that there isn't one. Whatever balance the devs are trying to enforce by making it so impossibly hard to get a hold of things like iridium plating why??? is so ridiculously overdone as to make the fact that we can even make jewelry useless. Half the jewelry i find in drops isnt even able to be deconned for the mats this is insane simply making them deconstruct-able for mats might alleviate some of this issue but there is still way more that can be done.
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starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭When introduced, Jewelry was specifically designed so we couldn't just power level it to 50 in a day, and be done with it.
That said, the system could use some further tweaking. Alchemy and Jewelry would both benefit from hirelings.14 -
whitecrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Salix_alba wrote: »It makes no sense that there isn't one. Whatever balance the devs are trying to enforce by making it so impossibly hard to get a hold of things like iridium plating why??? is so ridiculously overdone as to make the fact that we can even make jewelry useless. Half the jewelry i find in drops isnt even able to be deconned for the mats this is insane simply making them deconstruct-able for mats might alleviate some of this issue but there is still way more that can be done.
Unless half your jewlery drops are "Exemplary" jewlery then they can be destructed. If you're getting that much exemplary jewlery, then you need to play in places where the non exemplary drops.
I wonder if Salix is talking about the 0-value jewelry that you never get anything out of (except a tiny bit of experience if you're still levelling.)5
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Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Salix_alba wrote: »It makes no sense that there isn't one. Whatever balance the devs are trying to enforce by making it so impossibly hard to get a hold of things like iridium plating why??? is so ridiculously overdone as to make the fact that we can even make jewelry useless. Half the jewelry i find in drops isnt even able to be deconned for the mats this is insane simply making them deconstruct-able for mats might alleviate some of this issue but there is still way more that can be done.
Unless half your jewlery drops are "Exemplary" jewlery then they can be destructed. If you're getting that much exemplary jewlery, then you need to play in places where the non exemplary drops.Beta tester November 20131 -
Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭While there may still be non destructible stuff for sale at the guild stores, we should not be getting any undestructable drops other than the Exemplary items intended to be researched.
If you do, /bug itEnjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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Iarao✭✭✭✭Salix_alba wrote: »It makes no sense that there isn't one. Whatever balance the devs are trying to enforce by making it so impossibly hard to get a hold of things like iridium plating why??? is so ridiculously overdone as to make the fact that we can even make jewelry useless. Half the jewelry i find in drops isnt even able to be deconned for the mats this is insane simply making them deconstruct-able for mats might alleviate some of this issue but there is still way more that can be done.
currrent drops should be deconnable. if you buy at the trader, you need to be careful cuz they could be older jewelry.3 -
Iarao✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »When introduced, Jewelry was specifically designed so we couldn't just power level it to 50 in a day, and be done with it.
That said, the system could use some further tweaking. Alchemy and Jewelry would both benefit from hirelings.
alchemy used to have hirelings i think. so did provisioning.0 -
Iarao✭✭✭✭Salix_alba wrote: »I am getting non exemplary non deconstructable jewelry from drop sets
i decon those all the time. have you spent points in jewelry crafting to get a better chance at the higher mats? not on my toons right now, but i think there are points for that.0 -
Iarao✭✭✭✭Salix_alba wrote: »I am getting non exemplary non deconstructable jewelry from drop sets
i decon those all the time. have you spent points in jewelry crafting to get a better chance at the higher mats? not on my toons right now, but i think there are points for that.
ok my bad, ur saying it is totally not deconable.0 -
redlink1979✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭@Salix_alba I agree we need a hireling but getting platings/grains it's not hard. It just depends on your commitment to farm a bit.
It's quite easy to gather jewelry from the Alik'r dolmen, for example. One drop always guaranteed from dolmen, if you're lucky 2 pieces can drop at once.
Daily jewelry writs done at the top crafting rank grant a guaranteed drop of one of these: one grain, double grain, a plating or double plating. (green, blue, purple or gold)
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Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Salix_alba wrote: »
It is a bug that you are getting them. They should be purged from the loot tables.Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
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✭I'd say get rid of hirelings all together, or find a better way of delivery, the email spam is meh.
If anything, instead of the daily rewards giving crown pots / potion they should be a mat crate.
A mat crate is tallied up by every character on your account that has hireling passives enabled, or every character on your account that is level 50 in particular tree.
Instead of 50 spam mails every 12 hours, and having to relog into alts to pick up the delivery, 1 mega drop on daily login (if the day is mat crate) would be far better. Might even ease server load if the sever wasn't constantly sending out 5 spam mails per 12 hours.3 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Salix_alba wrote: »
It is a bug that you are getting them. They should be purged from the loot tables.
Specifically, jewelry created after the release of Summerset should be deconstructible. Jewelry from before that was flagged to prevent decon, because we had ludicrous amounts of the stuff laying around.1 -
El_Borracho✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭How about you get a guaranteed plating dust particle the equal to the level of the item you are deconning? Its bad enough when you get a gold destructive mage ring in your weekly coffer, but its a real kick in the bag when you decon it and get NOTHING.1 -
twev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'd say get rid of hirelings all together, or find a better way of delivery, the email spam is meh.
If anything, instead of the daily rewards giving crown pots / potion they should be a mat crate.
A mat crate is tallied up by every character on your account that has hireling passives enabled, or every character on your account that is level 50 in particular tree.
Instead of 50 spam mails every 12 hours, and having to relog into alts to pick up the delivery, 1 mega drop on daily login (if the day is mat crate) would be far better. Might even ease server load if the sever wasn't constantly sending out 5 spam mails per 12 hours.
You're assuming the devs/company would agree to make hirelings and/or drops 'convenient'.
That stuff isn't supposed to be convenient.
I's designed to cost you points for the hireling, and to be a time/effort sink.
They want you to spend time doing housekeeping/bookkeeping stuff that you'd rather spend doing other roaming and pillaging stuff.
The more time you burn up doing mundane stuff, or missing hireling mail because you didn't log in for email several times a day (and amassing materials easily) is less time you have running through content and then asking for more so quickly.The problem with society these days is that no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.2 -
lagrue✭✭✭✭✭
✭starkerealm wrote: »Salix_alba wrote: »
It is a bug that you are getting them. They should be purged from the loot tables.
Specifically, jewelry created after the release of Summerset should be deconstructible. Jewelry from before that was flagged to prevent decon, because we had ludicrous amounts of the stuff laying around.
Correct, but keep in mind the newer Purple stuff that can be researched (the ones that sell for 500, i.e. infused rings) also cannot be deconned. This is a very big annoyance, as the item tooltip does not say so - unlike Jewelry from pre-Summerset, which does. I fell trap to this a few weeks ago when I wanted to powerlevel my alt's jewlery so I dropped 200k on Infused Rings... only to find out each and every single one of them is useless. I guess I never noticed before because I usually put mine in the traders myself (ironic.)
Another complaint is that I always thought the 'item cannot be decontructed' tip should always be at the top of the tooltip, on pre-summerset stuff, mainly when buying from traders you have to scroll down the tooltip on each individual piece, lest you buy some crap you can't decon. Information like that should be front and center imo.Edited by lagrue on November 4, 2019 11:53PM"You must defeat me every time. I need defeat you only once"0 -
lagrue✭✭✭✭✭
✭Instead of 50 spam mails every 12 hours, and having to relog into alts to pick up the delivery
Meh if you run daily writs you have to login to the alts anyway... and since hirelings are supplementary for crafters, most of whom do writs, it's not a big pain normally.
If you are only collecting resources from hirelings then yeah, not worth the login... but I'm pretty sure most of us aren't doing that. I mean a mega drop would be nice and convenient, but its solving something that's not really too big a deal to begin with.Edited by lagrue on November 4, 2019 11:53PM"You must defeat me every time. I need defeat you only once"1 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »Salix_alba wrote: »
It is a bug that you are getting them. They should be purged from the loot tables.
Specifically, jewelry created after the release of Summerset should be deconstructible. Jewelry from before that was flagged to prevent decon, because we had ludicrous amounts of the stuff laying around.
Correct, but keep in mind the newer Purple stuff that can be researched (the ones that sell for 500, i.e. infused rings) also cannot be deconned. This is a very big annoyance, as the item tooltip does not say so - unlike Jewelry from pre-Summerset, which does. I fell trap to this a few weeks ago when I wanted to powerlevel my alt's jewlery so I dropped 200k on Infused Rings... only to find out each and every single one of them is useless. I guess I never noticed before because I usually put mine in the traders myself (ironic.)
Another complaint is that I always thought the 'item cannot be decontructed' tip should always be at the top of the tooltip, on pre-summerset stuff, mainly when buying from traders you have to scroll down the tooltip on each individual piece, lest you buy some crap you can't decon. Information like that should be front and center imo.
Yeah, the research fodder pieces are flagged to prevent decon. In the entire game, they're the only new source that cannot be deconned now. Specifically, because you're supposed to research them. It's probably a failsafe to protect players from accidentally deconning their research jewels.0 -
SeaGtGruff✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There is already an Alchemy hireling of sorts, the silent supplier who hangs out in the outlaws refuges. You can choose one of three options every 20 hours. The first option gives you either an alliance potion or some Alchemy ingredients.
Personally, I find the hirelings to be kind of meh as far as what you get from them each day. You can get more and better stuff on your own without hardly trying.I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!1 -
Hapexamendios✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SeaGtGruff wrote: »There is already an Alchemy hireling of sorts, the silent supplier who hangs out in the outlaws refuges. You can choose one of three options every 20 hours. The first option gives you either an alliance potion or some Alchemy ingredients.
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I never remember to go down to see her 😆0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »When introduced, Jewelry was specifically designed so we couldn't just power level it to 50 in a day, and be done with it.
That said, the system could use some further tweaking. Alchemy and Jewelry would both benefit from hirelings.
I agree that we, as players, would like to see such tweaking. I think it is a longshot though as Zos seems to be standing firm on their original stance and reasoning behind jc not having a hireling.0 -
FrancisCrawford✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »When introduced, Jewelry was specifically designed so we couldn't just power level it to 50 in a day, and be done with it.
That said, the system could use some further tweaking. Alchemy and Jewelry would both benefit from hirelings.
alchemy used to have hirelings i think. so did provisioning.
Alchemy doesn't, and the Shadowy Supplier is a poor substitute. Provisioning always has.Edited by FrancisCrawford on November 5, 2019 3:41AM0 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Eh, I just don't bother with hirelings any more. I've got so much stuff.... and I do have better places to put those skill points.0 -
Dracofyre✭✭✭✭auction vendors/guild vendor are flooded with jewel writs that almost no one could.
sound like devs are giving players no options, it like they said "You can have these writs but you not getting upgrade plates or Traits", treated the writs like toliet papers.
come on devs! you are suppose to provide players something fun to play but not frustrations., it is just a game.1 -
freespirit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭If you have Elsweyr and Dragonhold….. just fight some Dragons you'll have so much decon jewellery really fast.....
If you don't then hit the dolmen train in alik'r, every chest drops a jewellery
When people say to me........
"You're going to regret that in the morning"
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spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Salix_alba wrote: »
It is a bug. Those aren't supposed to drop any longer. Write down where you are getting it and bug report it.1
