Keylun wrote: »

They used to have this reward system. In 2014, the Q4 subscription reward, (had to be subbed for the year) was the exclusive tiger mount. I believe Q3 was a costume and I’m unsure of the first two.

I don’t know why they stopped this incentive. Could be a great marketing idea if they released the schedule at the start of a new year

Damn I honestly don't remember that at all and I started at launch haha but yeah I don't know why they got rid of it. That is honestly what the yearly sub needs.

Goregrinder wrote: »

So I was going to buy the yearly sub because you get 19800 crowns right away, but since I already have ESO+ the only thing I gain is 19800 crowns.....and not having to get notified by paypal every month that $14.99 was billed to me. Because for only $10 more, you can just buy 21000 crowns and get them the moment your MOP is billed, and still have the option to cancel ESO+

Interesting perspective!
I actually figured that unless there was a big Crown sale on, people who wanted more Crowns would have just extended their subscription instead of buying Crowns straight.

Kittytravel wrote: »

12 x 11.66 = Like 140$? For 19,800 Crowns.
And to buy outright it's 150 for 21,000
So that makes it .0070 Cents per Crowns for the 12 month.
Or .0071 Cents per Crown for the 150$ outright.

So it's actually just barely more cost effective to do the 12 month subscription; of course excluding any other benefits (Free furniture, craft bags, crown store discount at select items, double furnishing space, double bank space, and DLC access are probably the main used ones.)

Plus we technically do get the yearly sub rewards currently in the form of the statuettes. But yeah I'd agree they should really add more benefits for the sub. Stuff not just for housing decorates but cosmetic people as well. (Special dyes maybe? Free dye packs? Not sure tbh. Maybe hair styles?)

Yeah it's barely a savings, and not a real benefit for those who already have ESO+ benefits unlocked. They could have all kinds of rewards like furniture, dyes, title, mount, armor and weapon skin, etc. Would make it more competitive choice between getting 21,000 immediately, OR 19,800 crowns when your current sub ends plus the yearly rewards pack.

Goregrinder wrote: »

So I was going to buy the yearly sub because you get 19800 crowns right away, but since I already have ESO+ the only thing I gain is 19800 crowns.....and not having to get notified by paypal every month that $14.99 was billed to me.

The sentence above is the basis for OP's argument yet it is an incorrect statement. OP makes a false statement that the only thing they have to gain is 19800 crowns and not getting notified each month paypal makes the payment.

OP would save 41.88/y with the annual sub vs monthly.

idk wrote: »

Goregrinder wrote: »

So I was going to buy the yearly sub because you get 19800 crowns right away, but since I already have ESO+ the only thing I gain is 19800 crowns.....and not having to get notified by paypal every month that $14.99 was billed to me.

The sentence above is the basis for OP's argument yet it is an incorrect statement. OP makes a false statement that the only thing they have to gain is 19800 crowns and not getting notified each month paypal makes the payment.

OP would save 41.88/y with the annual sub vs monthly.

I already stated that the yearly sub is $10 cheaper.

Yearly sub: $139 with 19,800 crowns.

Max crown pack: $149 with 21,000 crowns.

$180 vs $149 is a savings yes....over time, assuming I keep my monthly sub active for 12 months. But if I only sub for one month, that is $149 + $15....so....I saved $25 in that case for....what? Less crowns? So I pay less and get less crowns....I pay more and get more crowns.

I am speaking from the instant gratification standpoint, not 12 months of waiting. In order for me to save that $40, I would have to already be planning to pay the monthly sub for 12 months. If I am staring at the crown store page, and ALREADY have ESO+, There is no reason for me to sub for a year, there is no benefit at that point, especially if I don't plan to sub for 12 more months.. I don't care about saving the money, that is why I am buying $150 worth of crowns. Bringing loyalty rewards back would definitely make me want to buy yearly subs even if I only play 2 months out of the year.

My point is that ESO should have some level tier sub option that fits the "life time sub" spot that other MMOs do, even if they never introduce a life time sub. Bring loyalty rewards back, give special mount, armor, weapon skins, a pet, maybe special Vet dyes, etc. There is currently nothing that fills that spot, and I think it is a wasted opportunity.