Saelent wrote: »

I haven’t done this and my version of this idea doesn’t involve any currency outside of the game, only gold, not even crowns.

DON’T ACTUALLY DO IT

No one likes grinding, the idea of going through entire quest lines again makes me cry under my covers at night.
Master Fishers...tell me, would you do all of that fishing again?

Let me introduce you to my THEORETICAL AND ENTIRELY A BAD IDEA (DON’T DO IT) service of doing the boring stuff for you.
I need only your username and password and you pay me 100,000 gold for each hour you want me to fish/level/farm on your character.

LETS BE CLEAR: 1st DON’T ACTUALLY DO IT
2nd, 3rd...
I do not have any intention of actually doing this, I don’t have the patience for my own character, never mind yours.
THIS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA SINCE SOMEONE COULD STEAL YOUR ACCOUNT AND IT WOULD BE YOUR FAULT.

I have made this a discussion simply to have a pleasant discussion as a question would be too simple to answer.

So, would it be against TOS even though it wouldn’t involve any outside currency?

tmbrinks wrote: »

Saelent wrote: »

I haven’t done this and my version of this idea doesn’t involve any currency outside of the game, only gold, not even crowns.

DON’T ACTUALLY DO IT

No one likes grinding, the idea of going through entire quest lines again makes me cry under my covers at night.
Master Fishers...tell me, would you do all of that fishing again?

Let me introduce you to my THEORETICAL AND ENTIRELY A BAD IDEA (DON’T DO IT) service of doing the boring stuff for you.
I need only your username and password and you pay me 100,000 gold for each hour you want me to fish/level/farm on your character.

LETS BE CLEAR: 1st DON’T ACTUALLY DO IT
2nd, 3rd...
I do not have any intention of actually doing this, I don’t have the patience for my own character, never mind yours.
THIS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA SINCE SOMEONE COULD STEAL YOUR ACCOUNT AND IT WOULD BE YOUR FAULT.

I have made this a discussion simply to have a pleasant discussion as a question would be too simple to answer.

So, would it be against TOS even though it wouldn’t involve any outside currency?

Yes, it's account sharing.

redlink1979 wrote: »

Saelent wrote: »

I need only your username and password

You lost me there.

Enlightenment me: what prevents you from changing passwords and stealing accounts of naive players? You point that yourself.

And since it's not a great idea why even bring this to discussion?!

redlink1979 wrote: »

@Saelent When I wrote "you lost me there" I mean I didn't like at all the idea of giving my account details to someone I don't know at all.

CaptainVenom wrote: »

I don't think you actually get punished for sharing your account.

Saelent wrote: »

I haven’t done this and my version of this idea doesn’t involve any currency outside of the game, only gold, not even crowns.

DON’T ACTUALLY DO IT

No one likes grinding, the idea of going through entire quest lines again makes me cry under my covers at night.
Master Fishers...tell me, would you do all of that fishing again?

Let me introduce you to my THEORETICAL AND ENTIRELY A BAD IDEA (DON’T DO IT) service of doing the boring stuff for you.
I need only your username and password and you pay me 100,000 gold for each hour you want me to fish/level/farm on your character.

LETS BE CLEAR: 1st DON’T ACTUALLY DO IT
2nd, 3rd...
I do not have any intention of actually doing this, I don’t have the patience for my own character, never mind yours.
THIS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA SINCE SOMEONE COULD STEAL YOUR ACCOUNT AND IT WOULD BE YOUR FAULT.

I have made this a discussion simply to have a pleasant discussion as a question would be too simple to answer.

So, would it be against TOS even though it wouldn’t involve any outside currency?

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