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Is it true Winterborn shield and jewelery do not drop in nMA?
Israel1948
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I've done nMA about 25 times and no jewelery or shields. Someone in zone chat says they only drop in vMA. Is this true? Thanks.
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bmnoble✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I got the necklace on normal, small pieces drop on in the first 4 rounds, big pieces drop in the next 4 rounds with jewelry being able to drop in round 8 in rounds 9 you get a weapon and jewelry but it comes down to RNG.
I gave up farming a chest piece and settled for the necklace instead.
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Winterborn+Set
From what I can see does not look like there is a shield or sword for the set, but it might be old info.1 -
D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Everything except Maelstrom weapons drop in nMA. I have gotten Winterborn everything from normal.2 -
Israel1948✭✭I got the necklace on normal, small pieces drop on in the first 4 rounds, big pieces drop in the next 4 rounds with jewelry being able to drop in round 8 in rounds 9 you get a weapon and jewelry but it comes down to RNG.
I gave up farming a chest piece and settled for the necklace instead.
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Winterborn+Set
From what I can see does not look like there is a shield or sword for the set, but it might be old info.
This site shows there is a shield.
https://eso-sets.com/set/winterborn
Sigh. I guess I'll just have to keep farming...0 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They drop on normal. Problem is getting winterborn shield have 6 times lower chance then getting specific vMA weapon so it's even harder then farming vMA bow or destro staff.0 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Israel1948 wrote: »
The source is simple math. There is 12 vMA weapons (I exclude wheter or not things like dw or s&b compositions are each separate events ot just events inside separate event) so chance to get 1 specific You're looking for in any trait (assuming every weapon have equal chance) is 1/12 which is ~8% (in reality it can be slightly slightly different but not that much and I dont want to go into details and start to overcomplicate stuff). But because there is 6 different sets that drops in malestrom and each one of them have 12 possible weapons You can get that chance is going down to 1/12*6=1/72 which is ~1,4%.Edited by Juhasow on October 24, 2019 2:10AM1 -
Parrot1986✭✭✭✭✭
✭Israel1948 wrote: »
The source is simple math. There is 12 vMA weapons so chance to get 1 specific You're looking for in any trait (assuming every weapon have equal chance) is 1/12 which is ~8%. But because there is 6 different sets that drops in malestrom and each one of them have also 12 possible weapons You can get that chance is going down to 1/12*6=1/72 which is ~1,4%.
Drop rate is ridiculous and set just isn’t worth the pain of trying to farm it.1 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Parrot1986 wrote: »Israel1948 wrote: »
The source is simple math. There is 12 vMA weapons so chance to get 1 specific You're looking for in any trait (assuming every weapon have equal chance) is 1/12 which is ~8%. But because there is 6 different sets that drops in malestrom and each one of them have also 12 possible weapons You can get that chance is going down to 1/12*6=1/72 which is ~1,4%.
Drop rate is ridiculous and set just isn’t worth the pain of trying to farm it.
Well yeah. It's kinda pity those weapons from sets there are so much pain to get when You're looking for something specific because I would really like to test for example elemental succesion inferno staff on mag dk or mag necro but it's too much pain to farm.0 -
Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭70+ runs and no Winterborn Ice Staff.
Have pretty much every other weapon and jewelry piece from all 6 sets thougParrot1986 wrote: »Israel1948 wrote: »
The source is simple math. There is 12 vMA weapons so chance to get 1 specific You're looking for in any trait (assuming every weapon have equal chance) is 1/12 which is ~8%. But because there is 6 different sets that drops in malestrom and each one of them have also 12 possible weapons You can get that chance is going down to 1/12*6=1/72 which is ~1,4%.
Drop rate is ridiculous and set just isn’t worth the pain of trying to farm it.
Well yeah. It's kinda pity those weapons from sets there are so much pain to get when You're looking for something specific because I would really like to test for example elemental succesion inferno staff on mag dk or mag necro but it's too much pain to farm.
You can test it on PTS, @Juhasow ... as long as you're PC platform.
After testing, at least you would know your tolerance for farming it on Live.
Edited by Taleof2Cities on October 24, 2019 3:05AM0 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »70+ runs and no Winterborn Ice Staff.
Have pretty much every other weapon and jewelry piece from all 6 sets thougParrot1986 wrote: »Israel1948 wrote: »
The source is simple math. There is 12 vMA weapons so chance to get 1 specific You're looking for in any trait (assuming every weapon have equal chance) is 1/12 which is ~8%. But because there is 6 different sets that drops in malestrom and each one of them have also 12 possible weapons You can get that chance is going down to 1/12*6=1/72 which is ~1,4%.
Drop rate is ridiculous and set just isn’t worth the pain of trying to farm it.
Well yeah. It's kinda pity those weapons from sets there are so much pain to get when You're looking for something specific because I would really like to test for example elemental succesion inferno staff on mag dk or mag necro but it's too much pain to farm.
You can test it on PTS, @Juhasow ... as long as you're PC platform.
After testing, at least you would know your tolerance for farming it on Live.
Problem is @Taleof2Cities on PTS it's bugged. Or atleast it was last time I wanted to test it. It have some issues with refreshing the buff causing way lower uptime then it should've. I am not sure but I think on PTS it had 4 seconds duration and 5 seconds cooldown last time I've checked.Edited by Juhasow on October 24, 2019 3:21AM0 -
kylewwefan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It feels like they go on some kind of jacked up cycle with drops. Currently I keep getting some kind of hunt leader resto/Destro s/b nonsense. I’ve no idea if vet or normal makes a difference?
I have got a decent stash of Maelstrom inferno’s ready to make a salty decon video.
But for stuff that I want....no succession inferno. Only 2 Winterborn ice Staves. No hunt leader daggers. But like 36 maces and swords.0 -
I did 100+ Nma and vma to get succession flame staff and Winterborn ice staff. Be patient dude1
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Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭sintetizzatore wrote: »I did 100+ Nma and vma to get succession flame staff and Winterborn ice staff. Be patient dude
Would You be equally patient if You would have to do 500+ runs ? You were pretty lucky with just 100 runs. not everyone will have that much luck.Edited by Juhasow on October 24, 2019 3:37AM0 -
Nemesis7884✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭they really need to make those sets avaialble another way or reduce the nr of sets to increase the drop rate per piece...its ridicoulos farming them...0 -
CAB_LifeClass RepresentativeIt does, but RNG. A token system is long overdue for this kind of content imo.Fitness/ Gaming/ Fantasy: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2qoTV-kge_bU90i2lgkyvA0 -
Parrot1986✭✭✭✭✭
✭Parrot1986 wrote: »Israel1948 wrote: »
The source is simple math. There is 12 vMA weapons so chance to get 1 specific You're looking for in any trait (assuming every weapon have equal chance) is 1/12 which is ~8%. But because there is 6 different sets that drops in malestrom and each one of them have also 12 possible weapons You can get that chance is going down to 1/12*6=1/72 which is ~1,4%.
Drop rate is ridiculous and set just isn’t worth the pain of trying to farm it.
Well yeah. It's kinda pity those weapons from sets there are so much pain to get when You're looking for something specific because I would really like to test for example elemental succesion inferno staff on mag dk or mag necro but it's too much pain to farm.
Drop rate improvement or rework to increase how often weapons/jewels drop would be a start. Guaranteed on weekly reward too rather than armour piece in gold.
Also don’t understand why DSA is BoE and VMA is BOP. Even that change would add some to the market, I’m sure people either decon or don’t pick up as no value to them but will have to someone.0 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Parrot1986 wrote: »Parrot1986 wrote: »Israel1948 wrote: »
The source is simple math. There is 12 vMA weapons so chance to get 1 specific You're looking for in any trait (assuming every weapon have equal chance) is 1/12 which is ~8%. But because there is 6 different sets that drops in malestrom and each one of them have also 12 possible weapons You can get that chance is going down to 1/12*6=1/72 which is ~1,4%.
Drop rate is ridiculous and set just isn’t worth the pain of trying to farm it.
Well yeah. It's kinda pity those weapons from sets there are so much pain to get when You're looking for something specific because I would really like to test for example elemental succesion inferno staff on mag dk or mag necro but it's too much pain to farm.
Drop rate improvement or rework to increase how often weapons/jewels drop would be a start. Guaranteed on weekly reward too rather than armour piece in gold.
Also don’t understand why DSA is BoE and VMA is BOP. Even that change would add some to the market, I’m sure people either decon or don’t pick up as no value to them but will have to someone.
DSA weapons are BoE only for 2 hours and You can trade it only with 3 group members You wre in the vault with the chest. Similar thing goes for BRP weapons and basically any 12 man trial gear. You cannot trade DSA weapons in guild stores.Edited by Juhasow on October 24, 2019 7:49AM0 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Parrot1986 wrote: »Parrot1986 wrote: »Israel1948 wrote: »
The source is simple math. There is 12 vMA weapons so chance to get 1 specific You're looking for in any trait (assuming every weapon have equal chance) is 1/12 which is ~8%. But because there is 6 different sets that drops in malestrom and each one of them have also 12 possible weapons You can get that chance is going down to 1/12*6=1/72 which is ~1,4%.
Drop rate is ridiculous and set just isn’t worth the pain of trying to farm it.
Well yeah. It's kinda pity those weapons from sets there are so much pain to get when You're looking for something specific because I would really like to test for example elemental succesion inferno staff on mag dk or mag necro but it's too much pain to farm.
Drop rate improvement or rework to increase how often weapons/jewels drop would be a start. Guaranteed on weekly reward too rather than armour piece in gold.
Also don’t understand why DSA is BoE and VMA is BOP. Even that change would add some to the market, I’m sure people either decon or don’t pick up as no value to them but will have to someone.
ZOS already greatly improved the droprates for the jewellery and weapons from those sets (winterborn, glorious defender etc). I made a thread about it during Homestead I think. Back then you weren´t even guaranteed to get a weapon or jewellery from the last stage of the non-vma weapon sets. Jewellery drops on stage 8 and 9 while weapons only drop from last stage.
And Winterborn shields and jewellery do drop, but it´s a lot of RNG involved as explained earlier in the thread.0 -
Nemesis7884✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭the should simply make the sets BOE so they can be traded...why should these "average / normal" sets be much more difficult to acquire than trial gear...0 -
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✭✭Parrot1986 wrote: »
Drop rate improvement or rework to increase how often weapons/jewels drop would be a start. Guaranteed on weekly reward too rather than armour piece in gold.
Also don’t understand why DSA is BoE and VMA is BOP. Even that change would add some to the market, I’m sure people either decon or don’t pick up as no value to them but will have to someone.
DSA weapons are BoE only for 2 hours and You can trade it only with 3 group members You wre in the vault with the chest. Similar thing goes for BRP weapons and basically any 12 man trial gear. You cannot trade DSA weapons in guild stores.
I think the DSA sets they were thinking of are Destruction Mastery/Footmans/Archers mind. Those sets are truly Boe and are analogous to Winterborn/succession.0
