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So magplars got a nerf this time around?
Lady_Linux
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jabby jabby no longer processes as a dot effect but as direct damage only so Skoria dosent process off of it anymore?
I simply must protest. There are no Penguin avatars for me to use in the forums.
BTW, I use arch too
BTW, I use arch too
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Lady_Linux✭✭✭✭✭WillhelmBlack wrote: »Skoria was the problem with Templar over performing? Wat
Magplar has not been over performing as far as i can tell.I simply must protest. There are no Penguin avatars for me to use in the forums.
BTW, I use arch too5 -
WillhelmBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Watch this:
https://youtu.be/icKAklcUawA
2 main points.
1. You can allocate CP better now for more overall damage.
2. With 2H ultimate you will have obscene damage with Sweeps.
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Lady_Linux✭✭✭✭✭WillhelmBlack wrote: »Watch this:https://youtu.be/icKAklcUawA
2 main points.
1. You can allocate CP better now for more overall damage.
2. With 2H ultimate you will have obscene damage with Sweeps.
A. I'm not watching a video.
B. 2H ult is not appropriate for a magplar ie non-sequitor
Puncturing Strikes:
This ability and its morphs will now snare the nearest enemy hit by 40% every time it deals damage, rather than snaring the nearest enemy hit by 70% on the final hit.
This ability and its morphs will now properly be considered Direct Damage attacks rather than a hybrid of Direct Damage and Damage over Time. Note that some item sets may still erroneously trigger from the attack, and will be fixed in a future update.
Updated the visual effects of this ability to better sync up with its attacks.
A direct damage attack makes sense for a stamina morph but not for a magicka morph
I simply must protest. There are no Penguin avatars for me to use in the forums.
BTW, I use arch too4 -
Thalmor-Nordmaster✭✭✭✭✭Skoria (non Angry Bird edition)Procs on RoR and Sharts; over all I lost 4k dps but I think I can fix that might be just me and rusty rotation Will post back on the skoria thing if needed. I was really hoping that Skoria when it procced would give a visual effect of Angry Birds going towards target.
My heals are fine but I need the dps to fend off things that don't like me healing/buffing guildies.I am not seeing a giant unrecoverable nerf. Some of my other builds and classes are not so lucky. But I will salvage what I can and park what I cannot. No anger or hissy fits on this end.
I will check my Khajiit templar healbot/pocket healer/Cheerleader/Counseler/Glee Party clothie today. I did notice some recovery gone off the top end for both but again I can adjust for that.
Edited by Thalmor-Nordmaster on October 22, 2019 11:17AM2 -
Essavias✭✭✭Lady_Linux wrote: »2H ult is not appropriate for a magplar ie non-sequitor
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A direct damage attack makes sense for a stamina morph but not for a magicka morph
1. Onslaught is appropriate for a PvP Magplar for quite a while now.
2. That is your opinion.9 -
Lady_Linux✭✭✭✭✭Valkyn Skoria is a monster helm item set. It cannot be crafted. Set pieces are available in all kinds of armor and standard traits.
Bonuses
1 item: Adds 14-1206 Maximum Health
2 items: When you deal damage with a damage over time effect, you have a 8% chance to summon a meteor that deals 104-9000 Flame damage to the target and 46-4000 Flame damage to all other enemies within 5 meters. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.
It makes no sense for a magplar to use a monster set that processes off of direct damage for a stamplar that makes sense but not for a magplar
Also this means Burning Spell weave will be less effective as well when paired with valkyn on a magplar since the jabby jabby will not process valkyn, and valkyn wont process burning spell weave as often either.
Burning Spellweave is a dungeon set that drops in the City of Ash I and II. Pieces are Daedric Style in Light Armor.
Bonuses
2 items: Adds 12-1096 Maximum Magicka
3 items: Adds 1-129 Spell Damage
4 items: Adds 9-833 Spell Critical
5 items: When you deal damage with a Flame Damage ability, you have a 15% chance to apply the Burning status effect to the enemy and increase your Spell Damage by 6-525 for 8 seconds. This effect can occur once every 12 seconds.I simply must protest. There are no Penguin avatars for me to use in the forums.
BTW, I use arch too1 -
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✭✭Lady_Linux wrote: »2H ult is not appropriate for a magplar ie non-sequitor
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A direct damage attack makes sense for a stamina morph but not for a magicka morph
1. Onslaught is appropriate for a PvP Magplar for quite a while now.
2. That is your opinion.
I wouldn't bother. I linked a video explaining all and OP refuses to watch for some bizarre reason.
Waste of breath/time.Edited by WillhelmBlack on October 22, 2019 11:13AMPC EU12 -
Jhalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭With the massive cost increases I had to pop trash mag potions every now in then while healing a vCoS run, but my dps was still around 12k and I never felt particularly starved for magicka.
I still have to get used to the increased durations because I absolutely ended up wasting resources by recasting too early.1 -
Lady_Linux✭✭✭✭✭Lady_Linux wrote: »2H ult is not appropriate for a magplar ie non-sequitor
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A direct damage attack makes sense for a stamina morph but not for a magicka morph
1. Onslaught is appropriate for a PvP Magplar for quite a while now.
2. That is your opinion.
You entire post is non-sequitor
The topic is templar jabby jabby skills not processing as dot even for magicka and you're going on about ultimate skills.
when jabby doesnt proc as dot for magplar, valkyn isnt triggered by jabby, burning spell weave which would be triggered by valkyn is in the chain now from jabby. See how that works? One triggers the other and the other triggers the next. The chain is broken because jabby jabby is direct damage not dot. Please stay on topic.I simply must protest. There are no Penguin avatars for me to use in the forums.
BTW, I use arch too6 -
Thalmor-Nordmaster✭✭✭✭✭Lady your last post lost me. Please clarify Other things in your toolkit can proc Skoria and BSW. add one to rotation and yaay skoria procs bsw procs and you are happy. You still have dots just not the dot you you were used to. Have a super splendid day. Willhelm thanks for the video. It gives me some ideas.3
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Lady_Linux✭✭✭✭✭Thalmor-Nordmaster wrote: »Skoria (non Angry Bird edition)Procs on RoR and Sharts; over all I lost 4k dps but I think I can fix that might be just me and rusty rotation Will post back on the skoria thing if needed. I was really hoping that Skoria when it procced would give a visual effect of Angry Birds going towards target.
My heals are fine but I need the dps to fend off things that don't like me healing/buffing guildies.I am not seeing a giant unrecoverable nerf. Some of my other builds and classes are not so lucky. But I will salvage what I can and park what I cannot. No anger or hissy fits on this end.
I will check my Khajiit templar healbot/pocket healer/Cheerleader/Counseler/Glee Party clothie today. I did notice some recovery gone off the top end for both but again I can adjust for that.
Thanks for your reply.I simply must protest. There are no Penguin avatars for me to use in the forums.
BTW, I use arch too3 -
Essavias✭✭✭Lady_Linux wrote: »
It makes no sense for a magplar to use a monster set that processes off of direct damage for a stamplar that makes sense but not for a magplar
Also this means Burning Spell weave will be less effective as well when paired with valkyn on a magplar since the jabby jabby will not process valkyn, and valkyn wont process burning spell weave as often either.
Then don't use it. There's a dozen more monster sets that you can use on magplar, be it pve or pvp.
Adjust.2 -
Lady_Linux✭✭✭✭✭Lady_Linux wrote: »
It makes no sense for a magplar to use a monster set that processes off of direct damage for a stamplar that makes sense but not for a magplar
Also this means Burning Spell weave will be less effective as well when paired with valkyn on a magplar since the jabby jabby will not process valkyn, and valkyn wont process burning spell weave as often either.
Then don't use it. There's a dozen more monster sets that you can use on magplar, be it pve or pvp.
Adjust.
This isnt about adjusting or not adjusting. It's a plain observation of observable facts
And so far i got two off topic people going on about 2h weapns and ultimates when the topic is clearly magplar nerf to jabby jabby..I simply must protest. There are no Penguin avatars for me to use in the forums.
BTW, I use arch too3 -
Thalmor-Nordmaster✭✭✭✭✭Saved for later. Going to poke under the templar hood to see about some tuning. And I am going to steal the cats Fresh sardines. BRB.
Ok burning light will proc skoria. Just used jabs and skoria nothing else on the 3mil 6mil and 21mil target dummies prcced at slightly over 10 percent
what was interesting was when i used shards VS would proc on initial hit and on last hit
for the lulz i tried velidreth and it was almost constant .Edited by Thalmor-Nordmaster on October 22, 2019 1:40PM2 -
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✭Lady_Linux wrote: »WillhelmBlack wrote: »Skoria was the problem with Templar over performing? Wat
Magplar has not been over performing as far as i can tell.
Lol. Magplar was overperforming for last 3 months at least and was bis for last 9 months for magicka4 -
Lady_Linux✭✭✭✭✭Thalmor-Nordmaster wrote: »Lady your last post lost me. Please clarify Other things in your toolkit can proc Skoria and BSW. add one to rotation and yaay skoria procs bsw procs and you are happy. You still have dots just not the dot you you were used to. Have a super splendid day. Willhelm thanks for the video. It gives me some ideas.Thalmor-Nordmaster wrote: »Saved for later. Going to poke under the templar hood to see about some tuning. And I am going to steal the cats Fresh sardines. BRB.
My irl alfiqs are snuggling so i cant play now.I simply must protest. There are no Penguin avatars for me to use in the forums.
BTW, I use arch too1 -
Essavias✭✭✭Lady_Linux wrote: »
This isnt about adjusting or not adjusting. It's a plain observation of observable facts
And so far i got two off topic people going on about 2h weapns and ultimates when the topic is clearly magplar nerf to jabby jabby..
So one (1) monster set and one (1) set would underperform, while the skill itself actually has a better damage potential with CP redistribution = magplar nerf.
I see now what @WillhelmBlack meant though, I'm out.2 -
Kadoozy✭✭✭✭If you are going to be in jab range, why not just use grothdar of zaan instead? It's better dps.4 -
Lady_Linux✭✭✭✭✭Lady_Linux wrote: »
It makes no sense for a magplar to use a monster set that processes off of direct damage for a stamplar that makes sense but not for a magplar
Also this means Burning Spell weave will be less effective as well when paired with valkyn on a magplar since the jabby jabby will not process valkyn, and valkyn wont process burning spell weave as often either.
Then don't use it. There's a dozen more monster sets that you can use on magplar, be it pve or pvp.
Adjust.
No there are not. There are 4 only that proc bsw
Grothdarr
(1 items) Adds 1096 Max Magicka
(2 items) When you deal damage, you have a 10% chance to create lava pools that swirl around you, dealing 1800 Flame Damage to all enemies within 8 meters of you every 1 second for 5 seconds. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.
Ilambris
(1 items) Adds 1096 Max Magicka
(2 items) When you deal Flame or Shock Damage, you have a 10% chance to summon a meteor shower of the damage type that deals 1170 Damage to all enemies within 4 meters every 1 seconds for 5 seconds. Each effect can occur once every 8 seconds.
Valkyn Skoria
(1 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(2 items) When you deal damage with a damage over time effect, you have an 8% chance to summon a meteor that deals 9000 Flame Damage to target and 4000 Flame Damage all other enemies within 5 meters. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.
Zaan
(1 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
(2 items) When you damage a nearby enemy with a Light or Heavy Attack, you have a 20% chance to create a beam of fire that will connect you to your enemy. The beam deals 3440 Flame Damage every 1 second to your enemy for 5 seconds. Every second, this damage increases by 50%. The beam is broken if the enemy moves 8 meters away from you. This effect can occur every 18 seconds.
Those are the 4 i could find with a web search that are magicka monster set that will trigger bsw. Of those 4 only two would process of of jabby jabby and since the nerf to jabby jabby only being direct damage, that leaves one choice and that is Grothdarr. It's just a simple observable fact that it is so.I simply must protest. There are no Penguin avatars for me to use in the forums.
BTW, I use arch too4 -
Lady_Linux✭✭✭✭✭If you are going to be in jab range, why not just use grothdar of zaan instead? It's better dps.
Zaan is single target only. Great for bosses, not so good for hordes in vet dungeons.
Grothdar is all that is left. It does less damage and ticks every 10 seconds rather than 5. Compared to skoria it's pretty weak but all that is left.Edited by Lady_Linux on October 22, 2019 12:00PMI simply must protest. There are no Penguin avatars for me to use in the forums.
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✭✭✭✭✭So your entire build is centered around one set (bsw), one monster set (valkyn) and one skill (sweeps), and you refuse to consider changing any of those things. You aren’t likely to find this game satisfying in the long term.
Class defining skills get gutted all the time . You will need to farm different gear on a regular basis just to keep your previous levels of performance. Different monster sets are better in different situations. You’ll need to make adjustments to how things actually are instead of being angry about how you wish they were.
If you aren’t able to do those things, this isn’t the game for you. You’re in good company, lots of people are deciding this is t the game for them anymore after the latest round of nerfs.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche4 -
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✭Lady_Linux wrote: »Lady_Linux wrote: »
It makes no sense for a magplar to use a monster set that processes off of direct damage for a stamplar that makes sense but not for a magplar
Also this means Burning Spell weave will be less effective as well when paired with valkyn on a magplar since the jabby jabby will not process valkyn, and valkyn wont process burning spell weave as often either.
Then don't use it. There's a dozen more monster sets that you can use on magplar, be it pve or pvp.
Adjust.
No there are not. There are 4 only that proc bsw
Grothdarr
(1 items) Adds 1096 Max Magicka
(2 items) When you deal damage, you have a 10% chance to create lava pools that swirl around you, dealing 1800 Flame Damage to all enemies within 8 meters of you every 1 second for 5 seconds. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.
Ilambris
(1 items) Adds 1096 Max Magicka
(2 items) When you deal Flame or Shock Damage, you have a 10% chance to summon a meteor shower of the damage type that deals 1170 Damage to all enemies within 4 meters every 1 seconds for 5 seconds. Each effect can occur once every 8 seconds.
Valkyn Skoria
(1 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(2 items) When you deal damage with a damage over time effect, you have an 8% chance to summon a meteor that deals 9000 Flame Damage to target and 4000 Flame Damage all other enemies within 5 meters. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.
Zaan
(1 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
(2 items) When you damage a nearby enemy with a Light or Heavy Attack, you have a 20% chance to create a beam of fire that will connect you to your enemy. The beam deals 3440 Flame Damage every 1 second to your enemy for 5 seconds. Every second, this damage increases by 50%. The beam is broken if the enemy moves 8 meters away from you. This effect can occur every 18 seconds.
Those are the 4 i could find with a web search that are magicka monster set that will trigger bsw. Of those 4 only two would process of of jabby jabby and since the nerf to jabby jabby only being direct damage, that leaves one choice and that is Grothdarr. It's just a simple observable fact that it is so.
Its funny that people offer you suggestions then try to take thinking to the next step by offering you counters and adapting to a change. You tell them to get on topic and this is just about talking abouts jabs being dd instead of a dot. Then you go on to talk about other sets. So which is it?
This post could just be done with
Ok...bsw will proc slightly less without skoria. No other discussion needed
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✭Lady_Linux wrote: »Valkyn Skoria is a monster helm item set. It cannot be crafted. Set pieces are available in all kinds of armor and standard traits.
Bonuses
1 item: Adds 14-1206 Maximum Health
2 items: When you deal damage with a damage over time effect, you have a 8% chance to summon a meteor that deals 104-9000 Flame damage to the target and 46-4000 Flame damage to all other enemies within 5 meters. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.
It makes no sense for a magplar to use a monster set that processes off of direct damage for a stamplar that makes sense but not for a magplar
Also this means Burning Spell weave will be less effective as well when paired with valkyn on a magplar since the jabby jabby will not process valkyn, and valkyn wont process burning spell weave as often either.
Burning Spellweave is a dungeon set that drops in the City of Ash I and II. Pieces are Daedric Style in Light Armor.
Bonuses
2 items: Adds 12-1096 Maximum Magicka
3 items: Adds 1-129 Spell Damage
4 items: Adds 9-833 Spell Critical
5 items: When you deal damage with a Flame Damage ability, you have a 15% chance to apply the Burning status effect to the enemy and increase your Spell Damage by 6-525 for 8 seconds. This effect can occur once every 12 seconds.
Sweeps do not even proc Scathing Mage or Nerien'eth.Difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 25 DLCs. 41 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver&Gold as a "you think you do but you don't"-tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game.0 -
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No you didn'tvMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
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✭Idk, I feel like it’s a buff to magplars... maybe a nerf to your build, but that happens like every patch to a lotta ppl."Stendarr's mercy be upon you, for the vigil has none to spare."6 -
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✭IMO, it's a buff since you can focus your build better now that it's not a weird hybrid dd/dot . Honestly, I don't get your insistence that it should be a dot for mag either. It is the defacto spammable for the class so it should be a dd attack, because you know, that's what it does, directly damages the enemy.
And also your relying on skoria, which has an 8% chance to proc , to proc BSW which has a 15% chance to proc? I'm not a math whiz but you might want to rethink that regardless3
