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Do you enjoy cast times on ultimates?
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Coupled with the lag and persistent performance issues, landing some of these ultimates is nearly impossible sometimes. It is making combat even more clunky and lame.
Do you enjoy cast times on ultimates? 176 votes
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Glurin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Kind of an odd way to put it. "Enjoy" cast times.
The change was clunky at first, but I adapted. Feels smother now, if laggy."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."5 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesI enjoy not having my ult burned because I got waxed right after I pressed R. So, you know, adaptation's easy.4 -
darkblue5✭✭✭✭✭NoHonestly a painfully long travel time would be better esp. in heavy lag where you ultimate can take between 2-3 seconds longer than the already super delayed skills without a cast time.
The cast times cause weird laggy desyncs that randomly screw over either the caster or the target.
Because of lag spikes you can cancel your ultimate even if you wait more than a global cooldown to be sure it went off.
Soul tether is amazingly interruptible as is Soul Siphon. Y'know skills mostly intended to save your self or others... just make them unslottable.
It feels only kinda horrid when the game is performing well and that's mostly at 2am or 3am EDT. Any other time they feel awful.
It really mostly punishes solo and small scale players, and it particularly hurts highly mobile squishy solo builds.
[sarcasm] Sure ultis may need to be nerfed when 90% of pvp solo combat is tanky dps draws. [/sarcasm]
Almost any other form of nerf would feel less miserable to play.2 -
Vlad9425✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoOne of the worst combat changes ever implemented in this game. The worst thing is that it’s a change catering to the minority of players yet ZOS is too delusional to revert this dumb change.3 -
bmnoble✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoShould not be any cast times on ultimate's, thought that was the whole point of generating ultimate, so that you could not spam the ability but could use it right away once you generated the required ultimate.Edited by bmnoble on October 20, 2019 11:24AM9 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭JamieAubrey wrote: »TBH I haven't really noticed
Agreed. After having played awhile, especially in Cyrodiil, i cant tell there was a change.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoI can tell the change and after playing for a while, missing a block due to lag (as in my character is doing the block animation becasue i did hit block, but the game doesn't always register it in time) and having my ultimate INTERRUPTED, so that all my charge is gone, but the ulti doesn't drop either? (in PVE btw, before you all say anything) I... HATE... CAST TIMES ON ULTIES.dirty worthless casual.
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Lybal✭✭✭NoIt's probably the worst combat changes out of all these last patchs, if they want to nerf combos with ultimates, then make combos very hard to land is a really bad way to do it.
It doesn't just make these ultimates weaker, it makes them frustrating to use when you can't land a combo cause of cast times, it's a balance change but which also affects gameplay, and affects build that relies a lot on combos more than others, making them pretty bad, probably the worst kind of nerf possible.
If they want to nerf combos with ultimates, it's not the good manner to do it.
Special mention for Soul Siphon which is an healing ultimate btw, making it useless in most emergency context, when the whole purpose of the ult is to save your life in these situations.Edited by Lybal on October 20, 2019 3:57PMOut of this game, tired of horrible performance and a lot of changes.6 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesYes, and one of the reasons i love the cast times on ultimates is because it allows me to trick my opponents with timing and the delay makes it so they never saw it coming. with perfect timing it allows for a smooth and skilled fight.
it also puts an end to people using the ultimate coupled with several other attacks and instakilling people with too much damage so we dont have a chance to react, this way now with ultimates haveing a cast time it allows for us to be able to react during an attack to defend ourselves instead of instant death before we even knew we were in a fight.1 -
Vlad9425✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoYes, and one of the reasons i love the cast times on ultimates is because it allows me to trick my opponents with timing and the delay makes it so they never saw it coming. with perfect timing it allows for a smooth and skilled fight.
it also puts an end to people using the ultimate coupled with several other attacks and instakilling people with too much damage so we dont have a chance to react, this way now with ultimates haveing a cast time it allows for us to be able to react during an attack to defend ourselves instead of instant death before we even knew we were in a fight.
LOL ok. The only people getting tricked here are those who accept this crap as a good gameplay decision.Edited by Vlad9425 on October 20, 2019 6:18PM9 -
Tsar_Gekkou✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoI don't play stam much so I kept animation cancelling my dawnbreaker whenever I tried to use it. The animation plays but nothing actually happens. It feels like garbage.Xbox NA healer main
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Fur_like_snow✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoBad change meant to help bad players not get zeroed as fast(they’re still getting zeroed and just as fast).Edited by Fur_like_snow on October 20, 2019 6:29PM3 -
Sasyk✭✭✭NoThe cast times are doing an amazing job of ruining pvp in cyrodiil. Sometimes you can cast them three or four times before it actually goes off. By then it's already too late.Sasyk Ik-ce - Spacey Ricochet - Swaggette - Andrea Ik-ce - Avari Lebe - Rubi Malone - Amaryllis Fox - Sergeant Moxy - Moon Unit Zoey - Retro Betty - Emmanuelle Sinclair
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D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoThe cast times are doing an amazing job of ruining pvp in cyrodiil. Sometimes you can cast them three or four times before it actually goes off. By then it's already too late.
Agreed. Unless the other person is getting the same server issues too it can be impossible to get some ults off.3 -
Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoZos knows collectively the ESO community does not line this change, yet implemented it anyway.Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.4 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesJoy_Division wrote: »Zos knows collectively the ESO community does not line this change, yet implemented it anyway.
that is simply not true.
your claim in your comment that it is the community does not like it but,
the community is split on this subject, some agree and some do not agree with it.
some DO like it, some DO want it. its 50%
Edited by Gilvoth on October 20, 2019 11:05PM2 -
D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoJoy_Division wrote: »Zos knows collectively the ESO community does not line this change, yet implemented it anyway.
that is simply not true.
your claim in your comment that it is the community does not like it but,
the community is split on this subject, some agree and some do not agree with it.
some DO like it, some DO want it. its 50%
Personally, i've yet to meet anyone who liked the change, even in zone chat discussion. Im sure some do, but i've never seen it.1 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoJoy_Division wrote: »Zos knows collectively the ESO community does not line this change, yet implemented it anyway.
that is simply not true.
your claim in your comment that it is the community does not like it but,
the community is split on this subject, some agree and some do not agree with it.
some DO like it, some DO want it. its 50%
The poll says otherwise.
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesJoy_Division wrote: »Zos knows collectively the ESO community does not line this change, yet implemented it anyway.
that is simply not true.
your claim in your comment that it is the community does not like it but,
the community is split on this subject, some agree and some do not agree with it.
some DO like it, some DO want it. its 50%
Personally, i've yet to meet anyone who liked the change, even in zone chat discussion. Im sure some do, but i've never seen it.
i believe the reason for that is due to the bashing and insulting they receive if they dare to show they think differently.
just like in highschool, no one wants to be the one standing out with a different opinion.2 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yesleepalmer95 wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Zos knows collectively the ESO community does not line this change, yet implemented it anyway.
that is simply not true.
your claim in your comment that it is the community does not like it but,
the community is split on this subject, some agree and some do not agree with it.
some DO like it, some DO want it. its 50%
The poll says otherwise.
the developers of elderscrolls online claim 11 million accounts on eso,
the amount of people that come to this forum is extremely low, and even if they do come to this forum the amount of people that even saw THIS thread are even lower.
add in the fact that the only people that even come to this forum are already looking for one specific topic, and they only search that topic, read it, and leave, never looking for these types of threads or even read the patch notes.
there is a very small group of people that actually respond to threads on these forums because they are ingame.
polls are always inaccurate, if you want to see the true accurate amount that does want or does not want a specific change in the game then you have to reach out to each @name eso account by email or phone.
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ThePedge✭✭✭✭✭NoThey should send out an email poll. Would love to see the results.
Probably 2% like it. People who 'fat-finger' it often enough that being able to cancel it works out for you.4 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yeslets take the number of views on this thread alone, the fact remains that if everyone hated these changes it would infact be an overwhelming amount of complaints yet it simply is not seen.
every one of the people in my guild love the changes
all of the friends i play with agree with the changes.
the cast times on ultimates is simply a different way of playing and we all have made adjustments to our builds to go with the patch notes now for over 6 years.
this change is nothing new. there wer many changes i was forced to accept, some of them i liked and some i dont.
just happens to be that this change is like i said a good one that is easy to work with due to getting to know its timing, you can use it against opponents and trick them easily due to its cast time with perfect timing it allows for a smooth and skilled fight.0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nolets take the number of views on this thread alone, the fact remains that if everyone hated these changes it would infact be an overwhelming amount of complaints yet it simply is not seen.
every one of the people in my guild love the changes
all of the friends i play with agree with the changes.
the cast times on ultimates is simply a different way of playing and we all have made adjustments to our builds to go with the patch notes now for over 6 years.
this change is nothing new. there wer many changes i was forced to accept, some of them i liked and some i dont.
just happens to be that this change is like i said a good one that is easy to work with due to getting to know its timing, you can use it against opponents and trick them easily due to its cast time with perfect timing it allows for a smooth and skilled fight.
You keep saying stuff like tricked/ smooth and skileld fight. Wtf are you talking about, you're just typing for the sake of typing.
Being able to use my skills and they hit instantly was a smooth fight, having my skill hit when i actually clicked it let me have perfect timing.
All this change did was to somehow sooth bad players who cried when they got low and got ulting quickly enough so they could be finished off. Just another change to give them an extra edge instead of promoting them to learn.
Its only cast time on some ults. Templar cresent still doesnt and its why its once of the best ults in the game right now.
Also stop reffering the that 11 million accounts marketing zos said. There is no where near that amount of players in the game. I doubt if the game even has over 10k actual players on all platforms combined. That 11 million is a combination many bot accounts, free weekends, people who bought the game for $5 and played for an hour etc.... It's just a truthful yet intentionally deceitful stat they promote to make the game sound like its doing better and is more popular than it actually is.
Edited by leepalmer95 on October 21, 2019 12:26AMPS4 EU DC
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✭Noin the middle of combat i go to place my nova in a spot where it's going to hit the most enemies.. the circle appears on the ground, I press fire to place it, hit BoL coz I'm being hit from multiple enemies & must heal or die... oh, my nova did not go off. replace nova but this time wait till I SEE the nova before pressing any more buttons... it fires! but everyone has already moved away from the spot & it is wasted
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