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Max gear rank 160 rework?

Xenofex
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Hello. It`s been about year since I have not been playing this game. I would return but only if champion rank for items would go to 1000 or so.
Is there any information when the champion rank for items will be reworked?
Flawless Conquer
  • Danikat
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    ZOS are currently re-working the entire champion point system, which will probably affect gear levels too. But we don't know what they're going to do or when it will happen.

    But this is a prime example of why a new approach is needed. Let's say they do increase the maximum gear level to 1000CP. You come back, you farm your new gear, maybe upgrade it to gold...and then what? Leave the game again until there's new equipment to farm? It's not a sustainable system, for developers or players, especially now we have level scaling which makes the arbitrarily increased numbers totally meaningless.

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  • Xenofex
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    "You come back, you farm your new gear, maybe upgrade it to gold...and then what?"

    Well it`s CP160 gear has been to long man...too long...
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  • RebornV3x
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    I don't think there reworking CP anytime soon and I doubt there going to raise the gear cap.
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  • Nando70
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    Danikat wrote: »
    ZOS are currently re-working the entire champion point system, which will probably affect gear levels too. But we don't know what they're going to do or when it will happen.

    Is there an official confirmation that they are doing this, I mean I've heard same thing as you mention and read it from several sources but yet to be officially confirmed by Zos.
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  • doomette
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    Please no. I really appreciate that the game doesn’t make me farm all the sets I have over and over again with ever-increasing max gear levels.
  • Darsaga
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    A huuuuuuge NO. Unless they make all previous gear very easy to upgrade. Also this doesn’t seem very likely because all content would need to be adjusted for varying levels of gear which is exactly what they eliminated with 1T.
  • Edaphon
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    Xenofex wrote: »
    I would return but only if champion rank for items would go to 1000 or so.

    Even a small increase to 180 or so would be a terrible idea but 1000 is just insane.
  • starkerealm
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    Nando70 wrote: »
    Danikat wrote: »
    ZOS are currently re-working the entire champion point system, which will probably affect gear levels too. But we don't know what they're going to do or when it will happen.

    Is there an official confirmation that they are doing this, I mean I've heard same thing as you mention and read it from several sources but yet to be officially confirmed by Zos.

    It was in the decision to freeze the spending cap at 810. Though, I don't think ZOS has said anything, publicly, since then.
  • Nando70
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    starkerealm exactly, as I said I've read a lot of rumours but nothing officially from Zos, the only official I've read is that they would stop the cap at 810, and they where going to look for alternative replacement, and that was official a while ago, can be found somewhere here in the forums. but that's about it, no mention of redoing anything so far.
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  • Tyrobag
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    ZoS doesn't want to raise the gear cap because they know it will just *** everyone off. Gear already shifts around too much with the constant nerfs (and the fact that they refuse to actually balance the sets so they are all usable), we don't need something else forcing us to rebuild every few months.
  • Tanis-Stormbinder
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    In one word: NO!
  • starkerealm
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    Nando70 wrote: »
    starkerealm exactly, as I said I've read a lot of rumours but nothing officially from Zos, the only official I've read is that they would stop the cap at 810, and they where going to look for alternative replacement, and that was official a while ago, can be found somewhere here in the forums. but that's about it, no mention of redoing anything so far.

    Yeah, just the thing about them looking for an alternative. Which a lot of people took to mean they'd be reworking the system. At some levels that is a semantic distinction. But, if you want confirmation beyond that? Sorry, don't have it.
  • Darkenarlol
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    looks like OP won't come back =D

  • FierceSam
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    Let me paraphrase OP

    “Hey guys, I currently don’t play the game, but if you utterly f*** it up I might be tempted to come back for a short time”

    FOT

  • MLGProPlayer
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    Xenofex wrote: »
    "You come back, you farm your new gear, maybe upgrade it to gold...and then what?"

    Well it`s CP160 gear has been to long man...too long...

    What would a different number accomplish?
  • generalmyrick
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    If gear level is set to 1000cp then at least i'll have a lot of bank/bag space suddenly!

    and a few places to grind til i get my builds back.
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  • Canned_Apples
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    Bye.
  • Katahdin
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    Xenofex wrote: »
    "You come back, you farm your new gear, maybe upgrade it to gold...and then what?"

    Well it`s CP160 gear has been to long man...too long...

    If the only thing that would keep you interested in the game is a gear treadmill, then this isn't the game for you.

    Regrinding gear ad nauseum is not compelling nor interesting game play.

    When One Tamriel happened, every mob, boss, delve, trial and dungeon were set to CP160. If gear changes, every mob, boss, delve, dungeon and trial would have to be adjusted.

    People complain overland and older dungeons are too easy as it is. Raising the gear cap to a more powerful stat will make it even worse if they dont readjust the entire game.

    What would be the point of all that work to just have the same thing with a different number? A mindless gear grind? Want to kill the game for good? Introduce a new mindless gear grind an watch 80+% of the playerbase leave overnight.

    No thanks.
    Edited by Katahdin on October 20, 2019 2:49PM
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  • Watchdog
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    *imagines the suddenly trash gear on all my characters and the resulting grind for top level gear for all of them*

    Hell, no!
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  • Rave the Histborn
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    Xenofex wrote: »
    "You come back, you farm your new gear, maybe upgrade it to gold...and then what?"

    Well it`s CP160 gear has been to long man...too long...

    Not long enough
  • Siohwenoeht
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    Nando70 wrote: »
    starkerealm exactly, as I said I've read a lot of rumours but nothing officially from Zos, the only official I've read is that they would stop the cap at 810, and they where going to look for alternative replacement, and that was official a while ago, can be found somewhere here in the forums. but that's about it, no mention of redoing anything so far.

    Never anything from zos about a replacement, only that they were evaluating the system and freezing the cap for an indefinite amount of time.

    If they do anything with either gear or CP, it won't be until they've finished the ability and passives audits. Then they'll be able to figure out how the CP system functions under their new "formula" and then make changes if any are required.

    The game definitely needs some sort of vertical progression. It can't go much further with only horizontal progression.
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  • xenowarrior92eb17_ESO
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    yes pls increase gear cap to 3600 and unlock full cp so I can finally be above everyone else!
  • Araneae6537
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    Nando70 wrote: »
    starkerealm exactly, as I said I've read a lot of rumours but nothing officially from Zos, the only official I've read is that they would stop the cap at 810, and they where going to look for alternative replacement, and that was official a while ago, can be found somewhere here in the forums. but that's about it, no mention of redoing anything so far.

    Never anything from zos about a replacement, only that they were evaluating the system and freezing the cap for an indefinite amount of time.

    If they do anything with either gear or CP, it won't be until they've finished the ability and passives audits. Then they'll be able to figure out how the CP system functions under their new "formula" and then make changes if any are required.

    The game definitely needs some sort of vertical progression. It can't go much further with only horizontal progression.

    I disagree. Sure, primarily horizontal progression won’t appeal to all players, but there are plenty of games that are never-ending gear-treadmills that periodically invalidate all your previous work. No thank you!!! As it is, with all the skill lines and skill points and CP, there is quite a lot you can do to invest in any one character besides gear.
    Edited by Araneae6537 on October 20, 2019 4:09PM
  • Ackwalan
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    With the dps adjustments this update, perhaps we will see an increase of allowable cp spent in 2020. That would let's us see some progression.
  • Nemesis7884
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    why would people want to raise the gear cap? thats idiotic

    so a game that is plagued by grinding anyway and you want to arbitrarily increase the gear cap and of course also the enemy difficulty to balance for it...having you end up in the same place you started but having to grind all over again...

    if you want to accelerate the player loss in this game that is already caused by horrible rebalancing, technical issues and lack of lasting content and just do that... do you honestly think long time players with hundreds of sets and 20 characters will regrind all that stuff? no, they will simply leave and move to something else...
  • idk
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    Xenofex wrote: »
    Hello. It`s been about year since I have not been playing this game. I would return but only if champion rank for items would go to 1000 or so.
    Is there any information when the champion rank for items will be reworked?

    Wow. This is someone who really does not like this game if this is the only way they would return to this game. Requiring a higher level gear is the worst and weakest reason I have seen for such a think. OMG
    Xenofex wrote: »
    "You come back, you farm your new gear, maybe upgrade it to gold...and then what?"

    They quit again and demand an increase in gear level before they come back. LOL

    If you actually enjoyed the content you would not be asking such a question.
    Edited by idk on October 20, 2019 3:19PM
  • FakeFox
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    I can't wait to throw away a few dozen fully optimized sets! Honestly, not constantly having to fully replace gear is one of the best things about ESO.
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  • Girl_Number8
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    Xenofex wrote: »
    Hello. It`s been about year since I have not been playing this game. I would return but only if champion rank for items would go to 1000 or so.
    Is there any information when the champion rank for items will be reworked?

    Zos should remove people from the forums that don't play the game anymore.
  • Gnome_Saiyan
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    Yeah, like a lot of people have been saying, raising gear numbers just to have a higher number would cause more problems than solutions.

    I would prefer the devs focus and get better at creating new gear sets that are imaginative, fun to use, and open up ways to tweak builds with new mixes of gear buffs.
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  • CaffeinatedMayhem
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    Xenofex wrote: »
    "You come back, you farm your new gear, maybe upgrade it to gold...and then what?"

    Well it`s CP160 gear has been to long man...too long...

    Let me know when you're ready to re-farm all the same sets, including all your VMA weapons, for CP180 cap!

    Edit: this is sarcasm, in case you were wondering.
    Edited by CaffeinatedMayhem on October 20, 2019 4:03PM
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