I guess I just need to git gud.

Lokey0024 · October 2019

Balanced.

UrbanMonk · October 2019

AAbrigo · October 2019

Haha you seriously thought those 10% were making you unkillable?

You didnt even block or dodge any of their damage.

So yeah - you need more practice.

The sets aint saving you.

Lokey0024 · October 2019

AAbrigo wrote: »

Haha you seriously thought those 10% were making you unkillable?

You didnt even block or dodge any of their damage.

So yeah - you need more practice.

The sets aint saving you.

10% over 30k resists you would think I'd last longer then 2 seconds. Should watch closer. Where did the other 10k health go? The guards?

UrbanMonk · October 2019

@0.08- The Guard Poked You with the Pointy end of his Stick...so that's 5.6k resistances gone.

Alienoutlaw · October 2019

jabs will always win if you dont keep your distance or block or roll dodge

BNOC · October 2019

So, you got dotted, ulted twice and had guards on you, all without blocking once - The only thing unbalanced is your common sense.

Go do that same thing against 2 guys with Onslaught and you'll die in 1 second.

GhostofDatthaw · October 2019

UrbanMonk wrote: »

GhostofDatthaw · October 2019

Lawl he changed the thread name

Lokey0024 · October 2019

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

Lawl he changed the thread name

Autocorrect turned git into hit. I already knew what the consensus was going to be.

Neoauspex · October 2019

Should be an Onion headline: "Timed ulti dump kills player"

method__01 · October 2019

you attacked 2 guys near their keep with guards patrol chasing you,what did you expect?

casparian · October 2019

You didn't have 30k resists -- light armor magplars typically have quite a lot of penetration, and it looks like a guard used Puncture on you. You probably had very low resistances, functionally speaking, at the moment you got ult dumped.

Also don't forget your 10% mitigation from Swift was countered by the 10% extra damage debuff from the Off-Balance applied to you by that Toppling Charge.

You got ult dumped while debuffed by two apparently well built players at once, and from the video it looks like you didn't do much to counter it. I'd be concerned if you didn't get melted in that situation.

If you're looking for advice, 9 seconds into the video when you use Rally is the moment when you should have switched to S&B bar, blocked, activated Frag Shield, and cast Vigor. At that point, it's fairly predictable that the Templar is about to lay some damage into you, so it's a good idea to preemptively buff/heal up so you can be in a good position to counter back.

Lokey0024 · October 2019

casparian wrote: »

You didn't have 30k resists -- light armor magplars typically have quite a lot of penetration, and it looks like a guard used Puncture on you. You probably had very low resistances, functionally speaking, at the moment you got ult dumped.

Also don't forget your 10% mitigation from Swift was countered by the 10% extra damage debuff from the Off-Balance applied to you by that Toppling Charge.

You got ult dumped while debuffed by two apparently well built players at once, and from the video it looks like you didn't do much to counter it. I'd be concerned if you didn't get melted in that situation.

If you're looking for advice, 9 seconds into the video when you use Rally is the moment when you should have switched to S&B bar, blocked, activated Frag Shield, and cast Vigor. At that point, it's fairly predictable that the Templar is about to lay some damage into you, so it's a good idea to preemptively buff/heal up so you can be in a good position to counter back.

Thx bro. Kinda crazy how hard they can hit hard while being tanky. Was in BGs and this is CP so was kind of amazed the difference.

Urzigurumash · October 2019

Lokey0024 wrote: »

Was in BGs and this is CP so was kind of amazed the difference.

Fairly substantial, since most people have a good amount of CP in the Penetration star, and not much in the Armor Focus stars. In other words, for most players there is a much larger proportional increase in Penetration than in Resistances going from No CP to CP.

Tangentially, Fracture and Breach are much more powerful, relatively, in No CP, and so the devs' recent statement they will soon unify all sources of Fracture and Breach might have a remarkable balancing effect on BGs, diminishing weaknesses which arise in mismatched random teams.

Urzigurumash · October 2019

casparian wrote: »

If you're looking for advice, 9 seconds into the video when you use Rally is the moment when you should have switched to S&B bar, blocked, activated Frag Shield, and cast Vigor.

Which might've given you the opportunity to hit Corrosive and Talons and turn things around in your favor. That's definitely one of my favorite backbar setups for Cyro.

JinMori · October 2019

Lokey0024 wrote: »

AAbrigo wrote: »

Haha you seriously thought those 10% were making you unkillable?

You didnt even block or dodge any of their damage.

So yeah - you need more practice.

The sets aint saving you.

10% over 30k resists you would think I'd last longer then 2 seconds. Should watch closer. Where did the other 10k health go? The guards?

If someone knows how to line up some burst you are dead in two or three second if you let it happen, that applies to all classes, and you were against two, so you were already at a disadvantage.

I am not the best pvp player, but i could notice a few core mistakes, for one you din't really block, you stopped moving for a second, you stood in front of the aoe cone, you didn't immediately apply buffs after you stunned the enemy, you should have used some kind of defensive rather than attacking immediately, that may have given you some time to line up something and you got hit by 2 ultimates, wtf did you expect?

Joy_Division · October 2019

You didn't take that fight seriously at all. You just casually charged in there on a low damage tank build with a full ultimate without any plan to use it.

Koensol · October 2019

- Charged in against 2 players + guards
- Didn't look for LoS or keep moving, but in stead let yourself get locked down
- No vigor up
- Didn't apply any selfbuffs beforehand
- Got dotted, armor debuffed and then double ulted by 2 guys
- Expected to somehow get carried by resistances (which were severely debuffed and penetrated) and 10% dmg reduction set, while having very low weapon damage and stamina (resulting in garbage selfheals).
- Expects to somehow survive

.... "Yea" ....

Lokey0024 · October 2019

Koensol wrote: »

- Charged in against 2 players + guards
- Didn't look for LoS or keep moving, but in stead let yourself get locked down
- No vigor up
- Didn't apply any selfbuffs beforehand
- Got dotted, armor debuffed and then double ulted by 2 guys
- Expected to somehow get carried by resistances (which were severely debuffed and penetrated) and 10% dmg reduction set, while having very low weapon damage and stamina (resulting in garbage selfheals).
- Expects to somehow survive

.... "Yea" ....

Thought joy kinda figured it out. Was trying to catch the 1v1, getting rare on ps4, and it didn't work.

Ok, so guy cast potl, spear, ult. Other guy cast bane, charge, ult. Dodged bane, ate the rest.

Potl debuffed me I'm thinking, guards dont. Never have.

I went from 25k health to 0 by getting 2 CC and Ult dumped with 30ish resist if not more.

Infused jewelry wd, Shield breaker medium. Chudan MS

NBrookus · October 2019

Not that it would have changed that fight, but you are giving up the 5% health regen buff of Elder Dragon and the 12% healing from Burning Heart for Chudan? Use Volatile Armor and another monster set that suits you. Bloodspawn, for example. BS synergizes well with DK, and Chudan just doesn't.

Also you opened with a CC, giving the templar 6 free seconds to lay into you. If you open with a CC you either have to have a lot of burst ready to go or use it to throw someone mentally out of their groove, and be ready to tank out or evade until your CC window is open again.

Juhasow · October 2019

Well good that You said to Yourself that You need to git gud so others dont have to. Now all what's left is actually getting good.

Considering how mindlesly You've rushed into those people You've survived longer then expected.

Lokey0024 · October 2019

NBrookus wrote: »

Not that it would have changed that fight, but you are giving up the 5% health regen buff of Elder Dragon and the 12% healing from Burning Heart for Chudan? Use Volatile Armor and another monster set that suits you. Bloodspawn, for example. BS synergizes well with DK, and Chudan just doesn't.

Also you opened with a CC, giving the templar 6 free seconds to lay into you. If you open with a CC you either have to have a lot of burst ready to go or use it to throw someone mentally out of their groove, and be ready to tank out or evade until your CC window is open again.

Normally run GDB for the extra heals and the 12%. And doesn't talons activate burning heart passive?

NBrookus · October 2019

Only while it's active.

NBrookus · October 2019

P.S. I'm not hating on Chudan, I run it on my sorcs. The sorc armor buff skill is pretty disposable for the class. I'd just never run in on DK that has an armor buff with some great passives.

Lokey0024 · October 2019

NBrookus wrote: »

P.S. I'm not hating on Chudan, I run it on my sorcs. The sorc armor buff skill is pretty disposable for the class. I'd just never run in on DK that has an armor buff with some great passives.

Should try GDB. Frees up tri pot for lingering/vitality pots and has minor vit. Almost a necessity in medium. And I'm kinda positive if you have Volitile up and a templar is running dark when they hit you it immobilizes you.

technohic · October 2019

So you are using a purple weapon and 26k stam, on a stam build. Your heals have got to be crap.

Lokey0024 · October 2019

technohic wrote: »

So you are using a purple weapon and 26k stam, on a stam build. Your heals have got to be crap.

Minor major vitality. Major mending. I think this build hits 3200-3500 WD. Can't remember offhand.

phuein · October 2019

Cyrodiil is where you [painfully] learn the difference between casual PvP (BGs) and hardcore PvP.

Minimum 3k Critical Resistance. All Impen's.

Vigor up before charging. Also, buff defense+offense skills before charging.

If it's versus 2 players, you probably want to potion up before the charge.

Immov' pot before charge to avoid the CCs.

2.5k Weapon Damage is low without balancing it out with other damage output sets. You want more.

And penetration. Sharpen your weapons - Crit's are mitigated anyways.

Zeni has made the game mechanics extreme obfuscated, so without learning metas you're griefing yourself sadly. I feel for ya. Just learned all of this recently. BGs become very easy.

russelmmendoza · October 2019

phuein wrote: »

Cyrodiil is where you [painfully] learn the difference between casual PvP (BGs) and hardcore PvP.

Minimum 3k Critical Resistance. All Impen's.

Vigor up before charging. Also, buff defense+offense skills before charging.

If it's versus 2 players, you probably want to potion up before the charge.

Immov' pot before charge to avoid the CCs.

2.5k Weapon Damage is low without balancing it out with other damage output sets. You want more.

And penetration. Sharpen your weapons - Crit's are mitigated anyways.

Zeni has made the game mechanics extreme obfuscated, so without learning metas you're griefing yourself sadly. I feel for ya. Just learned all of this recently. BGs become very easy.

Tyvm for this.

Lokey0024 · October 2019

russelmmendoza wrote: »

phuein wrote: »

Cyrodiil is where you [painfully] learn the difference between casual PvP (BGs) and hardcore PvP.

Minimum 3k Critical Resistance. All Impen's.

Vigor up before charging. Also, buff defense+offense skills before charging.

If it's versus 2 players, you probably want to potion up before the charge.

Immov' pot before charge to avoid the CCs.

2.5k Weapon Damage is low without balancing it out with other damage output sets. You want more.

And penetration. Sharpen your weapons - Crit's are mitigated anyways.

Zeni has made the game mechanics extreme obfuscated, so without learning metas you're griefing yourself sadly. I feel for ya. Just learned all of this recently. BGs become very easy.

Tyvm for this.