Faction lock needs some changes

MaskedHuman · October 2019

I know you might be coming here expecting me to talk about how faction lock (for 30 days) destroys pvp, which it does destroy pvp. However, im gonna talk about other problems involved with faction lock and alliance pvp campaigns in general

1. Reduce the amount of gold needed to leave the campaign to be according to the current market value of AP (5:1), 100k gold does not equal 100k ap

2. Automatically remove previously locked characters from the campaign, that way it's a lot easier to avoid accidentally locking yourself

3. If the campaign ends and I'm on the opposing alliance trying to get into the locked campaign, I've noticed that it only shows 1 character name that is locked, even though there are multiple characters that are also locked, this causes players to waste a lot of time logging in unnecessary characters. It would be best if it showed multiple character names, not one at a time.

I'm sure there's a lot more problems I didn't list, but those are the most annoying ones I found so far.

max_only · October 2019

There’s going to be a 30 day unlocked campaign in a few days.

MaskedHuman · October 2019

max_only wrote: »

There’s going to be a 30 day unlocked campaign in a few days.

That won't fix the issues I listed though.

EvilAutoTech · October 2019

I don't have a problem with faction lock. I didn't ask for it and did not want it, but nobody asked me, and it's what we have.

I think the new unlocked campaign is a mistake, but again, my opinion was never sought after by ZOS.

I mostly PVP for the Pact but have taken characters in other alliances to Cyrodiil since the lock. I rarely used characters from opposing alliances in the same campaign anyway. This has not been a big change for the way I PVP in ESO.

The gold cost to leave a campaign doesn't bother me. I rarely use the option. If it helps others, you have my vote (not that it means anything).

I never leave characters in Cyrodiil in locked campaigns, however, I support that change as well.

Your third point seems like common sense, but these days, sense is not common.

I have been able to enjoy PVP with and without faction lock. The lag and random loading screens are more aggravating to me than faction locks.

idk · October 2019

max_only wrote: »

There’s going to be a 30 day unlocked campaign in a few days.

Exactly.

As for the points OP makes.

1. It is a choice. If the gold price is to high for you use AP. Zos does not set the Gold to AP rate and should not bother with this request as it can easily change.
2. Zos has already stated they intend to work on fixing this but of course it is probably up there with fixing the in-combat bug.
3. Irrelevant once point 2 is fixed. Best Zos fix the actual problems.

Taleof2Cities · October 2019

MaskedHuman wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

There’s going to be a 30 day unlocked campaign in a few days.

That won't fix the issues I listed though.

Yes, it does.

You don’t like the rules of the faction lock campaign, you switch to the non-faction locked ... to avoid the issues outlined in the OP.

There’s no penalty for changing as long as it’s not selected as a home campaign on your account. (Though ZOS might give a free campaign change anyway for the patch ...)

Pretty simple.

mongoLC · October 2019

Faction lock is awesome. No more Canadian Pied Piper coming to DC to steal all of its best people for night flipping.

MaskedHuman · October 2019

idk wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

There’s going to be a 30 day unlocked campaign in a few days.

3. Irrelevant once point 2 is fixed. Best Zos fix the actual problems.

no, I don't think I worded it correctly.

what I meant in point 3 is, when multiple characters set the campaign as home in 1 alliance, when you go to a different alliance, it only shows that 1 character has said campaign as home, not all the others.

hope I cleared my point there

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

MaskedHuman wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

There’s going to be a 30 day unlocked campaign in a few days.

That won't fix the issues I listed though.

Yes, it does.

You don’t like the rules of the faction lock campaign, you switch to the non-faction locked ... to avoid the issues outlined in the OP.
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I feel like you didn't read my post, you're saying I don't like the rules of faction lock (which you're right, I don't) but the main point of my thread is to list some issues that will avoid confusion.

Karivaa · October 2019

When I switched alliances, I had 5 toons in the faction and had to pay 150k for each one to abandon the canpaign before the next campaign began. That’s a ton of ap!

idk · October 2019

MaskedHuman wrote: »

idk wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

There’s going to be a 30 day unlocked campaign in a few days.

3. Irrelevant once point 2 is fixed. Best Zos fix the actual problems.

no, I don't think I worded it correctly.

what I meant in point 3 is, when multiple characters set the campaign as home in 1 alliance, when you go to a different alliance, it only shows that 1 character has said campaign as home, not all the others.

hope I cleared my point there

I understood. However, if Zos fixes the actual issue where a player having even one character in Cyrodill when the campaign ends they get locked into that alliance for the next campaign then it does not matter.

Essentially, Zos should kick out all chracters when the campaign ends. Then you choose an alliance for an alliance locked campaign any character what was in a different alliance for that campaign is locked out. That would work as intended.

It is why I said Zos needs to fix the real issue.

Regardless, we will have a 30 day campaign without locks starting next week. If I were a better man I would wager the 30 day locked campaign will be fairly slow.