No. They need to stick with what they have, incrementally tweak up and down instead of massive pendulum swings, and not shake up the game further. Your change would be a massive upheaval to many builds and gear selections.

buttaface wrote: »

No. They need to stick with what they have, incrementally tweak up and down instead of massive pendulum swings, and not shake up the game further. Your change would be a massive upheaval to many builds and gear selections.

I dont agree that this would cause the pendulum to swing. The sword and board skill line does not offer any offensive passives that would benefit magicka builds. The two things you gain is extra max stats (which can offer some offensive damage) and survivability. Magicka DPS would drop on a sword and board bar because you lose the offensive stats from destro staff, so there's a lot of give and take here.

EpicRekkoning wrote: »

Make light attack damage scale off of your highest stat, rather than magicka/spell damage for staves and stam/weapon damage for everything else. This would allow an option for running sword and board for magicka dps builds and could help with additional survivability for magicka melee dps builds. I don't think it would change other setups because the passives on bows, 2h, and dual wield are too specific for stam dps classes. Thoughts?

I agree. This will provide melee magicka builds with competitive light attack damage while using a melee weapon. Looking at mag dk, templar, and nb.

This has been said for years now. GL, I'm done. This game is a Circle Jerk while they are pickpocketing our wallets. So much confusion being broadcasted from the dev team. 5 years in and we are still in BETA trying to figure out what an Assassin class should feel and play like.. Really?

I support this petition/discussion to change Light and Heavy Attack damage to scale to the character's highest offense pool.

When the originally game launched, I remember the developers claiming any character could use any weapon or armor type in the game, where the character were not limited into one or the other. It offered freedom of choice.

I understand where the original intent was to distinguish between melee weapons, bows, and staves; and by association, the method for calculating the different weapon skills tool-tips. Yet. Modifying the LA/HA damage algorithm shouldn't t cause a direct impact on the weapon skill algorithms for calculating damage or effects. What does remains consistent: is the necessity for players to build into stamina to optimize the effectiveness and efficiency those weapon skills i.e. Stamina abilities. The same necessity goes for players building into magic to optimize the utilization of the destructive or restoration skills. Therefore, having the modified LA/HA damage algorithm supports the developer's original claim and current, "play as you want," yet without minimizing the importance between both resources for creating stamina/magic character build. It would further expands and support the player base interested in creating hybrid character. And, provides an optional choice for character builds to divorce themselves from exclusively using staves in magic builds.

For example, magic Nightblades are still roguish assassins that have a higher benefit for using class magic oriented skills than their stamina counterpart; BUT, it doesn't mean their not trained in martial prowess and shouldn't necessarily be married to destruction staves unless the destruction staff skill line themselves will help the character "gap-fill" needs. Meanwhile, the same magic Nightblades won't excel in any weapon skill because they've developed and chosen the path of magic. This is where their stamina counterparts would excel and benefit using those weapon skills.

The same scenario example could be applied to other classes.

This petition/discussion in favor to modify the LA/HA damage algorithm shouldn't impact player's damage parses. Most likely, the LA/HA damage change would provide them with alternative weapon choices per action bars since their Light and Heavy Attack weaves would cause (thereabouts) the same damage; EXCEPT, upholding the distinction between melee, bows, and staves would still remain "in force," in accordance to the governing resource that determines which one would then benefit from the heavy attacks to restore resources. And, this should remain, as is and be a character build variable when deciding which weapon better suits their character's build.

Sahidom wrote: »

buttaface wrote: »

Oh, so you don't think allowing players to run magicka and stam passives affecting LAs on different bars of one build would result in more imbalance and resulting nerf crying, lead to more and more nerfs? Have you met ESO? OK then.

These passives are already active and do not cause imbalance. Several weapon passives are specific when using a skill from the weapon skill line. This doesn't change. That's the misconception here. The only difference would be the LA/HA attack damage scaling to the highest offense resource. Weapon passives won't miraculously change. At most, they'd be more like variables of the character build: that's not bad either. Variety is good.

A passive would be actually very interesting. Something like 1 extra passive in every weapon skills line that has a pasive which changes the current weapon light attack scaling to stamina for the magic weapons, and to magicka for the stamina weapons.

Yep nerf LA as they do 25% of the a current parse.

jcm2606 wrote: »

That would be a hybrid build, do you know how well hybrid builds perform in ESO? Hint: Not very well.

You're assuming the character levels their attribute points between two stats; this is a cliche impression. You could easily lean heavy on using more of their magic class skills and stamina for damage (since stamina defaults to damage only). Its how much resources are needed to have a smooth play style. This doesn't always equate out to stat point distribution, sets, food/drink choices, and weapons go into these builds.

Trying to make use of stam passives on a mag build is precisely what a true hybrid build tries to aim for, and they typically don't perform very well. This wouldn't make them perform much better, so I think we're good.

You may have a disconnect here. Weapon (stamina) passives on a magic build already exist. Changing the LA/HA damage to scale on the highest attribute doesn't change that already-existing fact about passives. As said before, all players would still need to build into the appropriate resource to fully benefit using melee, bow, and destruction/restoration staff skills.

You would also be incorrect, they would perform better with the proposed LA/HA damage change and be more rounded and capable than a specialized-dependent on 3rd party type build. As said before, variety is good. I wouldn't smug hybrids just because I didn't like the builds.