Does anyone else feel Wardens spell animations take too long?

Somber97866 · September 2019

Look at the netch and artic/polar winds. By the times polar winds gets done with the rediculious animation you have 2 secs of heals left. The netch is just as bad and the pts the uptime is being nerfed so the spell will feel more like a chore to me than a beneficial spell. Anyone else feel this way?

StormeReigns · September 2019

Somber97866 wrote: »

Look at the netch and artic/polar winds. By the times polar winds gets done with the ridiculous animation you have 2 secs of heals left. The netch is just as bad and the pts the uptime is being nerfed so the spell will feel more like a chore to me than a beneficial spell. Anyone else feel this way?

More of a QoL thing here. Luckily with warden - soon as the ability like Betty, Winds, any beneficial is used the effects take place right when used and not with animation. Most if not all warden abilities has a minor delay. Except for Dive and Swarm (plus their morphs). They have... a vastly noticeable gap between activation and finish.

Dive and Swarm current and PTS feel and look like an extreme example of a snipe desync - you see motion/action and nearly, depending on how smooth the game/server is running have to wait 0.5 seconds to 1 second for the effect's animation to continue/finish off. Not including location in the game, where the mob could be dead long after Dive / Swarm has been used, but not before the animation has been completed - that is annoying.

Canned_Apples · September 2019

Cutting dive

Somber97866 · September 2019

Dive was made that way so you could roll Dodge in pvp ( I'm almost certain)
Same way withe ricochet skulls on necro

StormeReigns · September 2019

Somber97866 wrote: »

Dive was made that way so you could roll Dodge in pvp ( I'm almost certain)
Same way withe ricochet skulls on necro

Interesting, cause when I roll dodge while/after Cutting Dive or swarm use, my character's arm is still extended during the roll and after, even on blocks at random times. Not to include that the delay is long enough to not even be bothered by your opponent to roll dodge, they can simply LoS it before it lands.

Starlight_Knight · September 2019

Yep definitely ive made posts about this before, the hidden cast time on the wardens "instant cast" skills.
Tree ulti is inerturuptable even though its insta cast, so everyone just runs resto ult instead,
betty, bear ulti summon and ulti cast. playing a magwarden feels very boggy, like swimming around in mud.

Canned_Apples · September 2019

Somber97866 wrote: »

Dive was made that way so you could roll Dodge in pvp ( I'm almost certain)
Same way withe ricochet skulls on necro

It was probably so the enemy could block it because it was undodgeable.
Right now, with the stupid delay, one dodge roll will cause 2-3 Cliff Racers to miss.

Somber97866 · October 2019

I like my magden but something always felt off about it. Guess ZOS Isn't concerned lol

SipofMaim · October 2019

Yes. They take too long and they're overly theatrical.

I guess it's a warden thing.

LeHarrt91 · October 2019

A lot of the skills have long/ delayed animations to keep their potential in check.

Ysbriel · October 2019

The buff skills the warden does activate on time even with the animation but that racer skill takes forever. Funny thing is that I don't know if its a movement speed buff, but ive seen some wardens on PvP make them rain faster.

Yuffie91 · October 2019

I always get impatient while summoning my bear

Grianasteri · October 2019

Somber97866 wrote: »

Look at the netch and artic/polar winds. By the times polar winds gets done with the rediculious animation you have 2 secs of heals left. The netch is just as bad and the pts the uptime is being nerfed so the spell will feel more like a chore to me than a beneficial spell. Anyone else feel this way?

Wardens: My skill animations take too long..

Necromances: Hold my beer...

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StormeReigns · October 2019

Grianasteri wrote: »

Somber97866 wrote: »

Look at the netch and artic/polar winds. By the times polar winds gets done with the rediculious animation you have 2 secs of heals left. The netch is just as bad and the pts the uptime is being nerfed so the spell will feel more like a chore to me than a beneficial spell. Anyone else feel this way?

Wardens: My skill animations take too long..

Necromances: Hold my bear...

Necro > Throws skull, and arms finish animation

Warden > Points for cutting Dive cast. Continues to point at target. Points at target super hard till dive is finished. While necro already threw three skulls during a single dive cast.

Grianasteri · October 2019

SkerKro wrote: »

Grianasteri wrote: »

Somber97866 wrote: »

Look at the netch and artic/polar winds. By the times polar winds gets done with the rediculious animation you have 2 secs of heals left. The netch is just as bad and the pts the uptime is being nerfed so the spell will feel more like a chore to me than a beneficial spell. Anyone else feel this way?

Wardens: My skill animations take too long..

Necromances: Hold my bear...

Necro > Throws skull, and arms finish animation

Warden > Points for cutting Dive cast. Continues to point at target. Points at target super hard till dive is finished. While necro already threw three skulls during a single dive cast.

Personally, having LA weaved both skills, I feel that skulls is more awkward. Admittedly this may be perception, since its a while since I played a Warden regularly with Cutting Dive, while I have been playing a couple of Necro characters quite often recently and finding Skull weaving very annoying.

ZarkingFrued · October 2019

Can confirm. They were focused more on looks than functionality it seems

xxthir13enxx · October 2019

Everybody wanted a Warden class n Everybody wanted a Bard class....so they created a Warden with some Theatrical Flair!

lol

Somber97866 · October 2019

If I were a magic user and I had to look like warden does casting these spells I would've changed my profession in life bc they look ridiculous in some cases.
Most of the animations look like some weird belly dancing technique or 70's dance moves,lol. Don't feel powerful or cool casting a lot of these spells tbh

_Ahala_ · October 2019

Cliff racer is too slow, to the point it actually hurts it’s functionality... projectile speed standardization when

Huyen · October 2019

Somber97866 wrote: »

Look at the netch and artic/polar winds. By the times polar winds gets done with the rediculious animation you have 2 secs of heals left. The netch is just as bad and the pts the uptime is being nerfed so the spell will feel more like a chore to me than a beneficial spell. Anyone else feel this way?

I have to animation-cancel as warden tank. Wich is downright stupid. Because of it I have made a build that uses the bare minimum of 3 skill from the warden skill-line, because of this issue.

Somber97866 · October 2019

Well the two hander and inferno/ice heavy attacks are ridiculous too. Oh and the clench is a long one. But these still don't compare to wardens and necro animations. So sad!

Solariken · October 2019

Yes that bugs me. I also hate that my weapons disappear during the forever-long animations.

EllieBlue · October 2019

Yes. Way, way too long. It's annoying and a real turn off. Reasons why both my stam and mag warden still at level 16 and has been forever. Until the day I delete them, which will be very soon.

Wolfpaw · October 2019

Somber97866 wrote: »

Look at the netch and artic/polar winds. By the times polar winds gets done with the rediculious animation you have 2 secs of heals left. The netch is just as bad and the pts the uptime is being nerfed so the spell will feel more like a chore to me than a beneficial spell. Anyone else feel this way?

Yes! Almost all could be reduced, Bear is one of the worse.

Somber97866 · October 2019

I understand they wanted some cool animations but to be honest , with this game being fast paced ( which is why most ppl love it so much) overly long animations become a handicap ppl will not care for.
I love the warden but it's the time spent trying to get these animations over with before I get two pieced by 7 adds us what keeps me from ignoring the other ( lower DPS and no real DPS group utility) issues that are plaguing this class.
The necro isn't as bad but tbh those ricocheting skulls are very clunky and the alternative is ele weapon..................let's talk about that one.
Ele weapon in my opinion would've been dope if you casted it and the next 5 light attacks did extra damage. Executing 5 successful lights attacks granted the extra burst damage passive. Just my opinion. Instead its a clunky skill that has a good chance to miss........works well on a target dummy........just make sure you tap target everything before use.....right?!?!

Sylvermynx · October 2019

No.

Kurat · October 2019

Just cancel the animations

DarkPicture · October 2019

Kurat wrote: »

Just cancel the animations

its "cheating"

Somber97866 · October 2019

Sometimes you cannot ( on console)

Dusk_Coven · October 2019

I thought some of the animations seemed long, but I tried an Add On that supposedly showed the global cooldown, and Netch and Lotus both finished just at the GCD finished.
I've taken off the Addon now to check again but seems like some animations maybe just feel longer than others.

Somber97866 · October 2019

You know it might be that it's such an exadriated movements that animation cancelling becomes either harder , longer or more defined. Makes it feel clunky. I love the warden. Actually I think I have one of all magic builds and tbh I've loved ( for the most part) them all.
With ESO being a fast paced and fast response game, not being able to animation cancel with fluidity makes for faster dead animation. I don't like dead animation. Speed = life on ESO.