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Black rose 2h not doing 100% of damage to other targets

Nordic__Knights
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This is damage tracking for an single hit useing the black rose 2h can we get an fix here
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    Enchantment?
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  • Nordic__Knights
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    Enchantment?

    I have on weapon damage enchantment and they proc 20% of the time not full time as said this was done each time with 1 hit per so that wouldn't seem to be issue here
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    Heres one with an crit hit and then an non crit hit
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    Any feedback ever gave to let us know we've been SEEN development team or someone?
  • Nordic__Knights
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    @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Gilliam
    any response would be nice i did play your game to get weapon can you at less fix it to do what it should do
    Edited by Nordic__Knights on October 12, 2019 10:30AM
  • susmitds
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    I can test in PTS with Combat Metrics to see what's going on.
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    susmitds wrote: »
    I can test in PTS with Combat Metrics to see what's going on.

    PLEASE because on live this issue is going on
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    Someone was saying the bonus hits are being effected by evasion...
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  • Nordic__Knights
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    Liam12548 wrote: »
    Someone was saying the bonus hits are being effected by evasion...

    Even on dummy ?thats where i tested and got 2k+ less damage to DUMMIES
    Edited by Nordic__Knights on October 13, 2019 4:12PM
  • OG_Kaveman
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    Maybe the secondary damage is being mitigated by armor, though it ought not be, how much penetration do you have?
    Edited by OG_Kaveman on October 13, 2019 4:16PM
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    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    Maybe the secondary damage is being mitigated by armor, though it ought not be, how much penetration do you have?

    On a test dummy there is no mitigation you get the fact a test dummy all these reports are from a test dummy
    Edited by Nordic__Knights on October 13, 2019 4:18PM
  • OG_Kaveman
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    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    Maybe the secondary damage is being mitigated by armor, though it ought not be, how much penetration do you have?

    On a test dummy there is no mitigation you get the fact a test dummy all these reports are from a test dummy

    Test dummy's 100% have armor. All but the 300k(which has 9100) and the iron atro(which has 5850) have 18200 armor, same as every mob in a dungeon/trial/arena(outside maelstrom arena). Again. How much penetration do you have.
    Edited by OG_Kaveman on October 13, 2019 4:21PM
  • Nordic__Knights
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    Look guys unlike most people here i actually test something before I come in and cry about it okay so I tested this and notice the fact that the damage on a dummy penetracion mitigation all those other things doesn't matter it's a test dummy
    Edited by Nordic__Knights on October 13, 2019 4:20PM
  • Nordic__Knights
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    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    Maybe the secondary damage is being mitigated by armor, though it ought not be, how much penetration do you have?

    On a test dummy there is no mitigation you get the fact a test dummy all these reports are from a test dummy

    Test dummy's 100% have armor. All but the 300k(which has 9100) and the iron atro(which has 5850) have 18200 armor, same as every mob in a dungeon/trial/arena(outside maelstrom arena). Again. How much penetration do you have.

    Will being the fact that I used the same Health dummies the penetration that I did to the first one should be the same penetration that I done to the second one because I'm on console and I can't tell you how much penetration I have because we don't have add-ons that give us the information now I could tell you if I wanted to get on the game that I'm about ready to delete do the other issues within their own store how much penetration I got through per say my CP and my sets if I wanted to calculate them know only thing I'm calculating is how much money I'm missing due to being locked out of something because their asses can't fix it
    Edited by Nordic__Knights on October 13, 2019 4:26PM
  • beadabow
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    I don't know if you have access to other target dummies, but if you do, try the "one hit" test on as many different types as you can and see if the results are more similar (or if they vary even more). I suspect it has something to do with the target, not the weapon.

    That being said, try different weapons on the same two targets you used before, and check the results. If I am correct, you will see variances using different weapons as well.
    Edited by beadabow on October 13, 2019 4:40PM
  • Nordic__Knights
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    beadabow wrote: »
    I don't know if you have access to other target dummies, but if you do, try the "one hit" test on as many different types as you can and see if the results are more similar (or if they vary even more). I suspect it has something to do with the target, not the weapon.

    That being said, try different weapons on the same two targets you used before, and check the results. If I am correct, you will see variances using different weapons as well.

    No other weapon is supposed to do 100% of its damage to the next Target as well so using different weapons wouldn't do me a damn bit of good and I might buy more dummies to test on but you know what I can't even use the *** ones I paid for as it is because I can't travel to my *** house no more
    Edited by Nordic__Knights on October 13, 2019 4:49PM
  • beadabow
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    beadabow wrote: »
    I don't know if you have access to other target dummies, but if you do, try the "one hit" test on as many different types as you can and see if the results are more similar (or if they vary even more). I suspect it has something to do with the target, not the weapon.

    That being said, try different weapons on the same two targets you used before, and check the results. If I am correct, you will see variances using different weapons as well.

    No other weapon is supposed to do 100% of its damage to the next Target as well so using different weapons wouldn't do me a damn bit of good and I might buy more dummies to test on but you know what I can't even use the *** ones I paid for as it is because I can't travel to my *** house no more

    Why can't you travel to your house?
  • Nordic__Knights
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    beadabow wrote: »
    beadabow wrote: »
    I don't know if you have access to other target dummies, but if you do, try the "one hit" test on as many different types as you can and see if the results are more similar (or if they vary even more). I suspect it has something to do with the target, not the weapon.

    That being said, try different weapons on the same two targets you used before, and check the results. If I am correct, you will see variances using different weapons as well.

    No other weapon is supposed to do 100% of its damage to the next Target as well so using different weapons wouldn't do me a damn bit of good and I might buy more dummies to test on but you know what I can't even use the *** ones I paid for as it is because I can't travel to my *** house no more

    Why can't you travel to your house?

    Read my other bug report about not being able to and if i know what it was id tell you but unfortunately i dont nor are they willing to fix whatever issue it is doing it
  • OG_Kaveman
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    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    Maybe the secondary damage is being mitigated by armor, though it ought not be, how much penetration do you have?

    On a test dummy there is no mitigation you get the fact a test dummy all these reports are from a test dummy

    Test dummy's 100% have armor. All but the 300k(which has 9100) and the iron atro(which has 5850) have 18200 armor, same as every mob in a dungeon/trial/arena(outside maelstrom arena). Again. How much penetration do you have.

    Will being the fact that I used the same Health dummies the penetration that I did to the first one should be the same penetration that I done to the second one because I'm on console and I can't tell you how much penetration I have because we don't have add-ons that give us the information now I could tell you if I wanted to get on the game that I'm about ready to delete do the other issues within their own store how much penetration I got through per say my CP and my sets if I wanted to calculate them know only thing I'm calculating is how much money I'm missing due to being locked out of something because their asses can't fix it

    You can tell me how much pen you have. you dont need addons, Just add them up. It is not hard.

    here is a list of all the armor pen buff/debuffs bonuses in the game so far, just add up the ones you got-

    Armor Penetration:

    target debuffs

    crusher enchantment - 1,622

    Infused Crusher- 2,107

    Infused Crusher with Torug- 2,740

    Roar of Alkosh- 3,010

    Major Breach- 5,280

    Minor Breach- 1,320

    self only buffs

    lover with no divines-2,752

    lover with 7 divines- 4,196

    twice fanged snake set- 4,300

    spriggans set- 3,450

    Tzogvin's Warband set - 1,487

    Kra'gh monster set - 1,487

    Unfathomable Darkness set - 1,487

    Dro'zakar's Claws- 1,487

    Perfect Radial Uppercut- 1,487

    Sharpened 2h- 2,752

    Sharpened 1h -1,376


    CP's: Variable, depending of sets and debuffs in use but up to 5280
    Edited by OG_Kaveman on October 13, 2019 5:53PM
  • Nordic__Knights
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    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    Maybe the secondary damage is being mitigated by armor, though it ought not be, how much penetration do you have?

    On a test dummy there is no mitigation you get the fact a test dummy all these reports are from a test dummy

    Test dummy's 100% have armor. All but the 300k(which has 9100) and the iron atro(which has 5850) have 18200 armor, same as every mob in a dungeon/trial/arena(outside maelstrom arena). Again. How much penetration do you have.

    Will being the fact that I used the same Health dummies the penetration that I did to the first one should be the same penetration that I done to the second one because I'm on console and I can't tell you how much penetration I have because we don't have add-ons that give us the information now I could tell you if I wanted to get on the game that I'm about ready to delete do the other issues within their own store how much penetration I got through per say my CP and my sets if I wanted to calculate them know only thing I'm calculating is how much money I'm missing due to being locked out of something because their asses can't fix it

    You can tell me how much pen you have. you dont need addons, Just add them up. It is not hard.

    here is a list of all the armor pen buff/debuffs bonuses in the game so far, just add up the ones you got-

    Armor Penetration:

    target debuffs

    crusher enchantment - 1,622

    Infused Crusher- 2,107

    Infused Crusher with Torug- 2,740

    Roar of Alkosh- 3,010

    Major Breach- 5,280

    Minor Breach- 1,320

    self only buffs

    lover with no divines-2,752

    lover with 7 divines- 4,196

    twice fanged snake set- 4,300

    spriggans set- 3,450

    Tzogvin's Warband set - 1,487

    Kra'gh monster set - 1,487

    Unfathomable Darkness set - 1,487

    Dro'zakar's Claws- 1,487

    Perfect Radial Uppercut- 1,487

    Sharpened 2h- 2,752

    Sharpened 1h -1,376


    CP's: Variable, depending of sets and debuffs in use but up to 5280

    I understand how to calculate them up I didn't say it was hard I said if I was going to use a calculator for anyting it would be to figure out how much money they're locking me out of using and in hopes of get it exchanged for my money back
    Edited by Nordic__Knights on October 13, 2019 6:45PM
  • OG_Kaveman
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    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    Maybe the secondary damage is being mitigated by armor, though it ought not be, how much penetration do you have?

    On a test dummy there is no mitigation you get the fact a test dummy all these reports are from a test dummy

    Test dummy's 100% have armor. All but the 300k(which has 9100) and the iron atro(which has 5850) have 18200 armor, same as every mob in a dungeon/trial/arena(outside maelstrom arena). Again. How much penetration do you have.

    Will being the fact that I used the same Health dummies the penetration that I did to the first one should be the same penetration that I done to the second one because I'm on console and I can't tell you how much penetration I have because we don't have add-ons that give us the information now I could tell you if I wanted to get on the game that I'm about ready to delete do the other issues within their own store how much penetration I got through per say my CP and my sets if I wanted to calculate them know only thing I'm calculating is how much money I'm missing due to being locked out of something because their asses can't fix it

    You can tell me how much pen you have. you dont need addons, Just add them up. It is not hard.

    here is a list of all the armor pen buff/debuffs bonuses in the game so far, just add up the ones you got-

    Armor Penetration:

    target debuffs

    crusher enchantment - 1,622

    Infused Crusher- 2,107

    Infused Crusher with Torug- 2,740

    Roar of Alkosh- 3,010

    Major Breach- 5,280

    Minor Breach- 1,320

    self only buffs

    lover with no divines-2,752

    lover with 7 divines- 4,196

    twice fanged snake set- 4,300

    spriggans set- 3,450

    Tzogvin's Warband set - 1,487

    Kra'gh monster set - 1,487

    Unfathomable Darkness set - 1,487

    Dro'zakar's Claws- 1,487

    Perfect Radial Uppercut- 1,487

    Sharpened 2h- 2,752

    Sharpened 1h -1,376


    CP's: Variable, depending of sets and debuffs in use but up to 5280

    I understand how to calculate them up I didn't say it was hard I said if I was going to use a calculator for anyting it would be to figure out how much money they're locking me out of using and in hopes of get it exchanged for my money back

    what are you on about man? what money? i am not asking about that. i only care about what is happening to the br 2h. just tell me how much pen you have.
  • Nordic__Knights
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    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    Maybe the secondary damage is being mitigated by armor, though it ought not be, how much penetration do you have?

    On a test dummy there is no mitigation you get the fact a test dummy all these reports are from a test dummy

    Test dummy's 100% have armor. All but the 300k(which has 9100) and the iron atro(which has 5850) have 18200 armor, same as every mob in a dungeon/trial/arena(outside maelstrom arena). Again. How much penetration do you have.

    Will being the fact that I used the same Health dummies the penetration that I did to the first one should be the same penetration that I done to the second one because I'm on console and I can't tell you how much penetration I have because we don't have add-ons that give us the information now I could tell you if I wanted to get on the game that I'm about ready to delete do the other issues within their own store how much penetration I got through per say my CP and my sets if I wanted to calculate them know only thing I'm calculating is how much money I'm missing due to being locked out of something because their asses can't fix it

    You can tell me how much pen you have. you dont need addons, Just add them up. It is not hard.

    here is a list of all the armor pen buff/debuffs bonuses in the game so far, just add up the ones you got-

    Armor Penetration:

    target debuffs

    crusher enchantment - 1,622

    Infused Crusher- 2,107

    Infused Crusher with Torug- 2,740

    Roar of Alkosh- 3,010

    Major Breach- 5,280

    Minor Breach- 1,320

    self only buffs

    lover with no divines-2,752

    lover with 7 divines- 4,196

    twice fanged snake set- 4,300

    spriggans set- 3,450

    Tzogvin's Warband set - 1,487

    Kra'gh monster set - 1,487

    Unfathomable Darkness set - 1,487

    Dro'zakar's Claws- 1,487

    Perfect Radial Uppercut- 1,487

    Sharpened 2h- 2,752

    Sharpened 1h -1,376


    CP's: Variable, depending of sets and debuffs in use but up to 5280

    I understand how to calculate them up I didn't say it was hard I said if I was going to use a calculator for anyting it would be to figure out how much money they're locking me out of using and in hopes of get it exchanged for my money back

    what are you on about man? what money? i am not asking about that. i only care about what is happening to the br 2h. just tell me how much pen you have.

    I've been locked out of my house for over a week bro and their response to me was to remove items out of my house to be able to travel to it I understand this is a whole different issue than what's being stressed here but I really could care less if their games broken or not at this point
    Edited by Nordic__Knights on October 13, 2019 6:59PM
  • beadabow
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    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    Maybe the secondary damage is being mitigated by armor, though it ought not be, how much penetration do you have?

    On a test dummy there is no mitigation you get the fact a test dummy all these reports are from a test dummy

    Test dummy's 100% have armor. All but the 300k(which has 9100) and the iron atro(which has 5850) have 18200 armor, same as every mob in a dungeon/trial/arena(outside maelstrom arena). Again. How much penetration do you have.

    Will being the fact that I used the same Health dummies the penetration that I did to the first one should be the same penetration that I done to the second one because I'm on console and I can't tell you how much penetration I have because we don't have add-ons that give us the information now I could tell you if I wanted to get on the game that I'm about ready to delete do the other issues within their own store how much penetration I got through per say my CP and my sets if I wanted to calculate them know only thing I'm calculating is how much money I'm missing due to being locked out of something because their asses can't fix it

    You can tell me how much pen you have. you dont need addons, Just add them up. It is not hard.

    here is a list of all the armor pen buff/debuffs bonuses in the game so far, just add up the ones you got-

    Armor Penetration:

    target debuffs

    crusher enchantment - 1,622

    Infused Crusher- 2,107

    Infused Crusher with Torug- 2,740

    Roar of Alkosh- 3,010

    Major Breach- 5,280

    Minor Breach- 1,320

    self only buffs

    lover with no divines-2,752

    lover with 7 divines- 4,196

    twice fanged snake set- 4,300

    spriggans set- 3,450

    Tzogvin's Warband set - 1,487

    Kra'gh monster set - 1,487

    Unfathomable Darkness set - 1,487

    Dro'zakar's Claws- 1,487

    Perfect Radial Uppercut- 1,487

    Sharpened 2h- 2,752

    Sharpened 1h -1,376


    CP's: Variable, depending of sets and debuffs in use but up to 5280

    I understand how to calculate them up I didn't say it was hard I said if I was going to use a calculator for anyting it would be to figure out how much money they're locking me out of using and in hopes of get it exchanged for my money back

    what are you on about man? what money? i am not asking about that. i only care about what is happening to the br 2h. just tell me how much pen you have.

    I've been locked out of my house for over a week bro and their response to me was to remove items out of my house to be able to travel to it I understand this is a whole different issue than what's being stressed here but I really could care less if their games broken or not at this point

    I'd be a little mad too if I couldn't access my house and the response was "Try removing some of the items from your house!" Lol! That would earn a reply of, "And how, exactly, am I supposed to do that--given that I can't get inside to remove anything.?"
  • Nordic__Knights
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    beadabow wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    Maybe the secondary damage is being mitigated by armor, though it ought not be, how much penetration do you have?

    On a test dummy there is no mitigation you get the fact a test dummy all these reports are from a test dummy

    Test dummy's 100% have armor. All but the 300k(which has 9100) and the iron atro(which has 5850) have 18200 armor, same as every mob in a dungeon/trial/arena(outside maelstrom arena). Again. How much penetration do you have.

    Will being the fact that I used the same Health dummies the penetration that I did to the first one should be the same penetration that I done to the second one because I'm on console and I can't tell you how much penetration I have because we don't have add-ons that give us the information now I could tell you if I wanted to get on the game that I'm about ready to delete do the other issues within their own store how much penetration I got through per say my CP and my sets if I wanted to calculate them know only thing I'm calculating is how much money I'm missing due to being locked out of something because their asses can't fix it

    You can tell me how much pen you have. you dont need addons, Just add them up. It is not hard.

    here is a list of all the armor pen buff/debuffs bonuses in the game so far, just add up the ones you got-

    Armor Penetration:

    target debuffs

    crusher enchantment - 1,622

    Infused Crusher- 2,107

    Infused Crusher with Torug- 2,740

    Roar of Alkosh- 3,010

    Major Breach- 5,280

    Minor Breach- 1,320

    self only buffs

    lover with no divines-2,752

    lover with 7 divines- 4,196

    twice fanged snake set- 4,300

    spriggans set- 3,450

    Tzogvin's Warband set - 1,487

    Kra'gh monster set - 1,487

    Unfathomable Darkness set - 1,487

    Dro'zakar's Claws- 1,487

    Perfect Radial Uppercut- 1,487

    Sharpened 2h- 2,752

    Sharpened 1h -1,376


    CP's: Variable, depending of sets and debuffs in use but up to 5280

    I understand how to calculate them up I didn't say it was hard I said if I was going to use a calculator for anyting it would be to figure out how much money they're locking me out of using and in hopes of get it exchanged for my money back

    what are you on about man? what money? i am not asking about that. i only care about what is happening to the br 2h. just tell me how much pen you have.

    I've been locked out of my house for over a week bro and their response to me was to remove items out of my house to be able to travel to it I understand this is a whole different issue than what's being stressed here but I really could care less if their games broken or not at this point

    I'd be a little mad too if I couldn't access my house and the response was "Try removing some of the items from your house!" Lol! That would earn a reply of, "And how, exactly, am I supposed to do that--given that I can't get inside to remove anything.?"

    Well my responses to give me back my $700 that I put in crowns to buy the stuff for my house
  • Nordic__Knights
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    But to be helpful @OG_Kaveman 5625. Pen is what i had at that time and both dummies are 6m
    Edited by Nordic__Knights on October 13, 2019 7:21PM
  • Nordic__Knights
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    @OG_Kaveman
    Im going to go do an barebones test no CP no gear nothing just the weapon I'll post results when done
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    All single hits of dizzying swing rank IV
    No cp no gear JUST weapon
    Gold, black rose maul, precise, wd enchantment
  • Nordic__Knights
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    @OG_Kaveman
    Above is test both dummies are 6m health
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    So im i wrong to say not doing 100% of damage to 2nd target?
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