Why would they nerf magnecro DPS and they aren't even top magic DPS!

Somber97866 · October 2019

I can understand the Colossus but the super hard nerfs to all the skills! Wtf! They just came out! Got to be a pvp thing, right?

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · October 2019

It's always a PVP thing...

KappaKid83 · October 2019

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

It's always a PVP thing...

You are right it is and I mainly PvP. The problem will always be the balance between the two. ESO, unlike WoW let's say, doesn't have skills that are only good against players or only good against Mobs. The ability to use all 3 skill trees, multiple weapon trees and multiple guild trees makes balancing nearly impossible. The player base will always find a way to maximize or exploit something until it gets nerfed. There is not much else to do aside from doing a complete re-write of every skill in the game or changing what skills do and do not work while in PVP.

Somber97866 · October 2019

It doesn't matter bc with the nerf they will be last place in trials ( especially after they nerf major vulnerability uptime) and once again my time is FREAKIN WASTED on this stupid endgame meta flux that's getting old all too quick.

KingZeldaMaster · October 2019

I can only hope that AoE damage is eventually returned to a more "usable" state, because the PTS cost for skills like Boneyard is way too high to justify their meager damage output. Wall of Elements will still be usable if only for the fact that the vMA destro staff buff to light attacks is going to be more valuable than ever.

Pevey · October 2019

You must be new here.

dominguero96 · October 2019

Actually is has nothing to do with PvP. I've being using the magnecro since it was released and with no difference it's the worse class in PvP (live). In PvP its only used the stamina or some magnecros in groups. It's an unviable class for soloing and in groups its a meh (only useful for the debuff and ultimate).

With this nerf they made it even worse, even thought it was already impossible to kill someone in a 1v1 unless he was afk.

They didn't nerf the necromancer only, they wanted to nerf some skills types. The problem is that nerfing a class that its already *** up you wont get it better .

At least they acknowledge that something is wrong XD

Fallen_Ray · October 2019

You forgot to mention the worse and yet most important part. Necromancer is a class that must be BOUGHT. Locked behind a paywall. A class that sounds cool to play and before the year's over will be nerfed to hell. The thing is why nerf it now?

If all this balancing garbage was planned? Why now? Was it so that the class looks overpowered and push enough players to buy it to reach the sales goal and then nerf it? That's what it looks like.

Yuffie91 · October 2019

Atleast my magden won't be crappiest anymore

hakan · October 2019

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

It's always a PVP thing...

Colossus???

its getting nerfed cuz pve stacking.

Arca94 · October 2019

Hmm, Necromancer has been the worst class in the game for PvP since its release... and the best class in the game for PvE dps since release.....

Yep, obviously nerfed because of PvP....

Somber97866 · October 2019

Lol, calm down pvp'ers. I'm not I'm not trying to be mean, it was an offhand comment and wasn't my belief to why it was being nerfed. I was making fun of the " Its all PVP or PVE's fault!" Mindsets. Anyways, geez!
I'm just saying, what would make them nerf them this hard? If it's bc endgame elite are stacking 8necro DPS in raid teams then everyone knows to look no further than the Colossus. What's the point of nerfing the already lackluster skill damage ( especially considering the comment about them being the worst pvp builds ).
I'm under the belief that ZOS workers don't understand their own game and how it is played and has evolved tbh. It's apparent with the way they try and fix a problem.
How long has it taken for ZOS to finally recognize and make the first steps to Wardens being viable ( truly ) endgame DPS?

Banana · October 2019

Everyone got the hose

Kali_Despoine · October 2019

when one wants to level a playing field, one does not think bulldozers
Zo$ on the other hand...

LiquidPony · October 2019

Arca94 wrote: »

Hmm, Necromancer has been the worst class in the game for PvP since its release... and the best class in the game for PvE dps since release.....

Yep, obviously nerfed because of PvP....

Magnecro is garbage in PvE outside of melee-range stack and burn. Even there it wasn't good on release.

And let's remember that magnecro was pretty damn good when it first hit PTS ... but Blastbones was nerfed into its slow, meandering state because of ... PvP complaints!

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO · October 2019

cuz necros need more nerfs.

Pyr0xyrecuprotite · October 2019

to the OP - don't take it personally - they are nerfing ALL classes in the next update, not just Necros...

Austinseph1 · October 2019

Now that they’ve sold the chapter necro will slowly be cut into mediocrity. Just watch over the next couple patches XD.. and in a year when they aren’t used they may get a slight buff like warden has been getting.

Nemesis7884 · October 2019

Pyr0xyrecuprotite wrote: »

to the OP - don't take it personally - they are nerfing ALL classes in the next update, not just Necros...

yeah but mag necro was already bad and their nerfs are even harder...

Somber97866 · October 2019

This nerf and renerf is really wearing me down. I play to have fun , whether solo or in a group, but when every patch seems negative then it takes more of the fun out of the gameplay

Chrlynsch · October 2019

Something always has to be on the bottom...

Girl_Number8 · October 2019

Chrlynsch wrote: »

Something always has to be on the bottom...

The customers in Zos's big list of priorities

Yeapers, we're right at the bottom and fun gameplay is right about there too.

Though on the bright side crown crates and the crown store will get buffs....

OtarTheMad · October 2019

Not a PvP thing in my opinion. Necros as damage are kind of trash in PvP. Necros were always on the bottom, the strong ults just hide that.

Grymmoire · October 2019

Banana wrote: »

Everyone got the hose

Guess no one applied the lotion eh!?

“It puts the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again.”

Czekoludek · October 2019

Welcome to the magblades world

Somber97866 · October 2019

In my opinion if they would've put an actual spammable execute in the necro and warden then they would have been fine. I cannot stand not having an execute

Somber97866 · October 2019

But who gives a crap about what your customers want , just who cries the loudest on forums

linoge63 · October 2019

Nerfing nerfing and nerfing alllllll the way to RDR2 for PC!!

Nemesis7884 · October 2019

Somber97866 wrote: »

But who gives a crap about what your customers want , just who cries the loudest on forums

its not even that...people on the forums have said for months upon months - even before the nerfs - that magicka warden and necro are underpowered...

they seem to only listen to 2 things

a) pvp-er
b) their own preferences

ZonasArch · October 2019

Somber97866 wrote: »

It doesn't matter bc with the nerf they will be last place in trials ( especially after they nerf major vulnerability uptime) and once again my time is FREAKIN WASTED on this stupid endgame meta flux that's getting old all too quick.

Here's an idea.... Stop chasing meta.

And don't give me this "I play competitively" B's because if you did, you'd be Stam necro, not mag.

So just enjoy your class to it's fullest and forget about Meta. You'll find yourself a lot happier.

Unless you enjoy the negativity and the stress of only looking at the bad side of the patch notes... Then, by all means, keep chasing the next nerf.

MLGProPlayer · October 2019

Magdens had this problem for years. ZOS would nerf them mercilessly every patch despite them being the lowest DPS class beause they were slightly overperforming in PvP (where everyone just builds a CC-spamming tank).