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Molten Whip change idea.

Lokey0024
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I love the changes ZOS did with molten whip. It added alot of much needed burst and a real nice buff to a class that really relies on spell damage. Only a few issues imo-it's inability to buff itself and early consumption of seething fury buff.

As is, the increments it increases (33%) the damage to consume seething fury early are good, but not really needed. It makes players sit on their spamable until optimal 3 stack is ready as to not lose the resource investment. My idea is to not have an incremental increase but once 3 stacks of seething fury are attained, Molten Whip gets the 99% buff it currently gets then consumes on cast. Also seething fury can stack on Molten Whip casts, as it is an ardent ability.

This might be a good change for PVE, I couldn't tell you, but as resource intensive MDK is in PvP having to sit on a spamable is a real detriment.

Thoughts?
Edited by Lokey0024 on October 6, 2019 7:35AM
  • susmitds
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    Well, the NB mitigation on grim focus is the same.
  • Lokey0024
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Well, the NB mitigation on grim focus is the same.

    Not a spamable tho. Now if Veiled Strike reset grim focus then it would be an issue.
  • Vildebill
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    Why not, I'm open to any change to molten whip. To make a passive on a spammable that removes the incentive to spam it must be one of dumbest changes I've seen in this game.
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  • Lokey0024
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    Vildebill wrote: »
    Why not, I'm open to any change to molten whip. To make a passive on a spammable that removes the incentive to spam it must be one of dumbest changes I've seen in this game.

    It's still good tho. Just could be better and not overtly broken with some tweaks. I'm sure the powers that be have their collective hands full but thought I'd just throw this one out their, hopefully for a revisit for my MDK bretheren.
  • KillsAllElves
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    Delete whip, replace with a fire ball spell.
  • Vildebill
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    Lokey0024 wrote: »
    Vildebill wrote: »
    Why not, I'm open to any change to molten whip. To make a passive on a spammable that removes the incentive to spam it must be one of dumbest changes I've seen in this game.

    It's still good tho. Just could be better and not overtly broken with some tweaks. I'm sure the powers that be have their collective hands full but thought I'd just throw this one out their, hopefully for a revisit for my MDK bretheren.

    What's good with it in PvE?
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  • WoppaBoem
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    I love the skill and you can skill spam it if you want or get the other morph. This is a case of I want to have it all, in ESO in general you can't have it all.

    For me I really like the game play of it gives some more dimension to the class than just dot up and spam the whip.
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  • Djennku
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    For me, I use searing strikes and engulfing flames to power up the whip rather than use the whip as a spammable, while also having inferno on the front bar
    Edited by Djennku on October 7, 2019 10:37AM
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  • Lokey0024
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    WoppaBoem wrote: »
    I love the skill and you can skill spam it if you want or get the other morph. This is a case of I want to have it all, in ESO in general you can't have it all.

    For me I really like the game play of it gives some more dimension to the class than just dot up and spam the whip.

    I like the charging dynamic as well. What is happening tho is I'm spamming Flames of Oblivion or fiery breath to charge whip before the burst combo. FoO is a utility AoE with decent damage and low cost. Fiery breath is catching a buff so if you hit 5 targets it's basically free, right.

    Making skills easier to use without making it overpowered would be a real good QoL change, right?
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