Maintenance for the week of December 22:
• NA megaservers for maintenance – December 22, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 8:00AM EST (13:00 UTC)
• EU megaservers for maintenance – December 22, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 8:00AM EST (13:00 UTC)
• NA megaservers for maintenance – December 22, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 8:00AM EST (13:00 UTC)
• EU megaservers for maintenance – December 22, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 8:00AM EST (13:00 UTC)
Tank Gear Configuration
Sahidom
✭✭✭✭
Hello. (I made this post elsewhere, thought it was more appropriate here too).
I do not write often about gear configurations and builds; however, you may find this gear configuration very potent in terms of tanking veteran trial content. A friend challenged me to test some tanking gear configurations on the PTS server. I used the option (a) off-armor set and went into veteran HRC, killed the trash mobs up to the stairs than pulled all the enemies starting the first boss; and they could not kill the character. The priest's aura kept me from kill but a few enemies there; SO, I walked the whole group to the entrance and forfeited the fight to reset it.
The only skills used doing that were Defensive Posture, Draw Essence, and Volatile Armor. Nothing else, which provides testimony to the strength of the gear configuration. Went into vSS and the mobs there couldn't kill him either.
Monster Helm: Pirate Skeleton (H/M weight, traits: sturdy, enchantments: prismatic)
Armor Set: Iron Blood (H weight, traits: sturdy, enchantments: prismatic)
Off-Armor Set(s):
a) Leeching Plate (s/b + jewelry, weapon trait: powered, shield trait: sturdy, jewelry traits: Health, enchants: Blocking) This configuration will not let you die by combining Defensive Stance + Draw Essence (this skill becomes spammable when surrounded by enemies).
b) Aegis of Gelewne (s/b + jewelry, weapon trait: powered, shield trait: sturdy, jewelry traits: Health, enchants: Blocking) This set is very strong b/c every DPS weaves light attacks. The set's on a 1 second CD cycle, so you can still really boost the group's DPS parses versus bosses. The 15m range helps when the tank must stand away while holding taunt on the boss
Some video testimony when I took the PTS character into veteran HRC.
[Devs: This set combination allows new and low CP players a strong tank gear config. that allows them to handle veteran content with a room-for-error while learning to tank/hold aggro.]
https://youtu.be/KjACEGD77Og
After clearing the enemies to the FIRST boss, I charged in and tried to get some kills on the archers. The priests offered too much passive healing to get them all.
https://youtu.be/aj5N0aaH6e8
Aside from information shared about gear configuration to help new and low CP players. It does demonstrates how you build for a specific role. I could achieve similar results running with a different class, where the class doesn't define what type of role you want to build into.
Edited by Sahidom on October 4, 2019 3:07AM I do not write often about gear configurations and builds; however, you may find this gear configuration very potent in terms of tanking veteran trial content. A friend challenged me to test some tanking gear configurations on the PTS server. I used the option (a) off-armor set and went into veteran HRC, killed the trash mobs up to the stairs than pulled all the enemies starting the first boss; and they could not kill the character. The priest's aura kept me from kill but a few enemies there; SO, I walked the whole group to the entrance and forfeited the fight to reset it.
The only skills used doing that were Defensive Posture, Draw Essence, and Volatile Armor. Nothing else, which provides testimony to the strength of the gear configuration. Went into vSS and the mobs there couldn't kill him either.
Monster Helm: Pirate Skeleton (H/M weight, traits: sturdy, enchantments: prismatic)
Armor Set: Iron Blood (H weight, traits: sturdy, enchantments: prismatic)
Off-Armor Set(s):
a) Leeching Plate (s/b + jewelry, weapon trait: powered, shield trait: sturdy, jewelry traits: Health, enchants: Blocking) This configuration will not let you die by combining Defensive Stance + Draw Essence (this skill becomes spammable when surrounded by enemies).
b) Aegis of Gelewne (s/b + jewelry, weapon trait: powered, shield trait: sturdy, jewelry traits: Health, enchants: Blocking) This set is very strong b/c every DPS weaves light attacks. The set's on a 1 second CD cycle, so you can still really boost the group's DPS parses versus bosses. The 15m range helps when the tank must stand away while holding taunt on the boss
Some video testimony when I took the PTS character into veteran HRC.
[Devs: This set combination allows new and low CP players a strong tank gear config. that allows them to handle veteran content with a room-for-error while learning to tank/hold aggro.]
https://youtu.be/KjACEGD77OgAfter clearing the enemies to the FIRST boss, I charged in and tried to get some kills on the archers. The priests offered too much passive healing to get them all.
https://youtu.be/aj5N0aaH6e8Aside from information shared about gear configuration to help new and low CP players. It does demonstrates how you build for a specific role. I could achieve similar results running with a different class, where the class doesn't define what type of role you want to build into.
2
-
cmvet✭✭✭Leeching plate is great in areas you have a lot of mobs on you. Virtually unkillable because you are healing for so much.
Another good combination worth trying is Yolnakhriin + cyrodiil crest + sentinel of Rkugamz.
Provides good damage buff to group with Yolna, but also because the stam regen of Rkugamz allows your stam dps to maintain optimal dps rotation a little longer before having to break for a heavy attack. I use Rkug on a warden tank so I provide a bit of extra healing to group which procs it. If you are on a DK, you could run it with batallion defender which provides a decent group heal every second. Cyrodiil crest is a bit of a selfish set but the heal is unbelievable.
It's fun mixing things up a bit from the "meta".Edited by cmvet on October 4, 2019 3:22AM2 -
Urzigurumash✭✭✭✭✭
✭OP, you might try Stonekeeper for this, I think it would outperform Pirate Skele, but maybe not. As the above poster noted Sentinel also provides a similar effect, and is stronger for the group, but weaker for the tank. I know a few of us on Xbox regard the top of the steps of Vet Hel-Ra as the best test for mob survivability, and the Gargoyle boss in Rivenspire is an easily accessible test for boss survivability.
I agree Battalion Defender plus Sentinel is a very useful combo for a DK tank.
Incidentally, the longest time I've heard of somebody enduring the top of the steps in Vet Hel-Ra was wearing Galenwe, even though it doesn't do a whole lot to help there, or at least doesn't seem it like it should.
Edited by Urzigurumash on October 4, 2019 3:57AMXbox NA AD / Day 1 ScrubDK / Wood Orc Cuisine Enthusiast1 -
Sahidom✭✭✭✭Awesome !
Can you try templar tank ? Thank you !
Sure. Here's a video to show the results using the same gear configuration. Only needed 4 skills + ultimate, and the ultimate wasn't really needed. Well, not all true, I could activate and drop block to recover stamina for a short burst of time.
Note: The downside I've noticed using the Templar was that it had weak Area of Effects, the Ritual of Retribution may need some possible +damage consideration. Under heavy blocking scenarios, you would have a very slow burn down of the trash or boss in vet Dungeons - while ONLY blocking or having a limited block-casting opportunity.
https://youtu.be/a620kfk4ryg
@Urzigurumash and @cmvet Thanks for sharing other gear configuration options.
Edited by Sahidom on October 4, 2019 5:24AM0 -
Sahidom✭✭✭✭Urzigurumash wrote: »Incidentally, the longest time I've heard of somebody enduring the top of the steps in Vet Hel-Ra was wearing Galenwe, even though it doesn't do a whole lot to help there, or at least doesn't seem it like it should.
I could have stayed alive with all those enemies almost indefinitely with the Dragonknight. I died when I started to type.
1 -
Urzigurumash✭✭✭✭✭
✭@Sahidom
You know what, I haven't tried it since they removed the target limit on Inhale. That must be a huge improvement to this. Thanks for reminding me to give it a try.
Edited by Urzigurumash on October 4, 2019 5:20AMXbox NA AD / Day 1 ScrubDK / Wood Orc Cuisine Enthusiast0 -
Sahidom✭✭✭✭Urzigurumash wrote: »@Sahidom
You know what, I haven't tried it since they removed the target limit on Inhale. That must be a huge improvement to this. Thanks for reminding me to give it a try.
It made a huge improvement on the skill. My buddy watched the video and commented that I was doing 30k DPS working all the enemies to death. He didn't know about the changes either and put a skill point into Inhale to train it up.0 -
Sahidom✭✭✭✭Another good combination worth trying is Yolnakhriin + cyrodiil crest + sentinel of Rkugamz.
I feel the Yolnahkriin set won't provide the same return as Aegis of Gelanwe once Update 24 is released. The Minor Courage had a great benefit beforehand where it had a more cascading impact on all the group's layered DOT damage. The Empower x3/1second from Aegis is pretty good that would cycle the buff through the entire group repetitively.
With some of the spammable skills that are incorporating light attacks, as the triggers to their activate condition, the Aegis set gains some merit points.Edited by Sahidom on October 4, 2019 6:48AM0 -
Sahidom✭✭✭✭The truth be TOLD;
When you watch the videos VERY closely, you'll notice the game's AI engine restricts how many enemies attack a single character. This restriction is HOW you can manipulate the combat conditions in veteran trials and dungeons; plus the enemies cool down between attacks. The set's combination is not actually OP; it seems to be OP due to the flaws of the game's AI engine that controls the enemies.
I could tweak the Dragon Knight by adding a back bar that specialized on damage/DOT damage, and probably could finish off the group before the first boss comes out in veteran HRC, and engage that boss.
Edited: This isn't an exploit; it's how the AI game engine was designed to diversify the damage in trials and dungeons, unless the enemies have a force redirection i.e. taunt. When you eliminate certain conditions than the enemies become inactive waiting in cue to attack.
Okay. Shameless plug here. THIS also why it's important to balance skills against the PVP content; because players don't become inactive or wait in cue to attack.Edited by Sahidom on October 4, 2019 9:58PM0 -
OG_Kaveman✭✭✭✭✭What are you trying to show here? It is stupid easy to build to become unkillable in pve. This build is useless to the group.1 -
Sahidom✭✭✭✭OG_Kaveman wrote: »What are you trying to show here? It is stupid easy to build to become unkillable in pve. This build is useless to the group.
We have an impasse and difference on what's considered "good tank." Whereas, I would consider one to be good that can handle ALL the instance's focus. You can accomplish much with said tank build (or similar); and I doubt players would criticize this type of tank that could collect and survival all the focus.
Oh, and I didn't need a high parse to kill all the veteran enemies. An enemy mechanic stalemated me but I could adjust and overcome that challenge. Dragon Knights, ROCK !! Much better than other choices except maybe the Nightblade.0